*UPDATE* New High-End DSLR Later in February [CR3]

[Woody]

A little disappointed with the G1X dynamic range. I had high hopes there... sigh...

 

[macfly]

I'd kind of given up coming here snce I've gone Sony NEX7 for my carry about, and ordered the Nikon 800 for work, so after 22 years I'm jumping the Canon ship for real, but a quick look at the title of this thread drew me back in. I was really hoping for news of a real 1Ds MkV, a studio/landscape 45MP camera, but Canon's decent into low light obsession for people who don't light thier work has all but made them irrelevant for me.

Seeing how the Sony NEX7 crushed the G1X gives a taste of what I suspect will come when 100ISO files from the 1Dx are run against the Nikon 800.

Interesting to see that the CEO jumped ship after running it on the rocks, must have been an Italian Japanese captain of industry.

 

[briansquibb]

Have you got a date and specs for the D800 yet?

 

[Gothmoth]

i see it this way....

with the last 2011 Q4 result canon needs to generate more profit to satisfy the shareholders.
so they will do everthing to bring new and long awaited products to the market.

another bad 2012 Q1 or even two bad quarter and the new assigned COO Fujio Mitarai (btw. 76 years old) can go.

 

[JR]

Have you got a date and specs for the D800 yet?

I believe this was well documented on the Nikon Rumor site while they are not official yet of course. The date is Feb 7th and the spec would be:

•36 MP sensor (7360x4912)
•100% viewfinder coverage
•Improved AF with face recognition – the D800 will still have 51 points AF point
•CF+SD memory card slots
•USB 3.0
•ISO range: 100 – 6400, ISO LO @ 50 and ISO HI-2 @ 25600
•The screen will be larger than 3 inches (probably 3.2 in.)
•The D800 will not have built-in GPS
•Expeed 3 processor
•There will be two different D800 versions/models, one with the antialiasing filter removed
•4 fps continuous shooting, about 6 fps in DX mode with optional battery pack
•Video modes: 1080p/30/25/24 and 720p/60/30/25/24
•Headphone jack, can input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder
•86k pixels RGB sensor
•200,000 shutter cycles
•Uncompressed HDMI video out (just like the Nikon D4)
•See those cropped Nikon D800 samples at high ISO

 

[Steb]

Canon's decent into low light obsession for people who don't light thier work has all but made them irrelevant for me.

That's all about ambience... not laziness...

 

[K-amps]

Read this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/understanding-series/everything_matters__it_is_all_about_the_small_details.shtml

Also a link to the rumors of the rumored Canon sensor producing an extra 2 stops of DR over the rumored Nikon?

Thanks for the link, I too am an audiophile, and I can attest to this: Audio amplifiers wattage depends on their rail voltages. The higher the "voltage" rails , the more output you get. If I have 2 amplifiers, all specs the same except for the power supply current ratings (i.e. the rail voltages being the same but in one amplifier, you put in a larger PSU but keep the voltages the same): Chances are under medium to high signal levels the larger power supply will sound better (even when the signals are under the operating limited of both amplifiers/ Power supplies). There are reasons for this , but the analogy to photography is valid. Better sensors will transmit more information and even after reduction of pixels will Yield better pictures that low pixel sensors (other things being similar): Someone even said that as long as diffraction does not set in, a higher MP sensor's output when reduced to lower pixels could out resolve a lower pixel sensor of the same physical size when it came to noise, since the noise of the high MP sensor is a finer "grain" and thus easier to manage with software etc.

 

[Loswr]

Please don't take DxO marks too seriously, check these marks:
Nikon D5100 is 80
Leica M9 is 69
Sony Nex 7 is 81
Canon 5D mark II is 79

I think they always favour to Nikon or Sony sensors

They don't 'favor' those sensors because they like those brands better. The data are what they are. The important point is to understand what DxOMark is measuring, and consider those factors which matter to you. The numbers you list are their overall scores, which are a composite of measurements of color depth, dynamic range, and ISO noise. The NEX-7 (APS-C sensor) beats the 5DII (FF sensor) because the Sony sensor has slightly better color depth and much better dynamic range, but the Sony also has much more ISO noise. So, if ISO noise is what matters to you, the 5DII is a better choice, even though the NEX-7 scores higher overall.

 

[MichelIV]

I've talked to numerous people at Canon and NONE of them know about the priority service for Platinum owners in purchasing the 1DX. I've been a platinum member for two years and can't find any email stating as such. If you have a contact for this supposed program, please post it!

 

[traveller]

In film days few printed above 8x10" (certainly for 35mm), now that's considered small. One area where I think that digital lags behind film is in the projection of images onto a large screen. It isn't the cameras, it is the fact that all but the most expensive projectors max out at 1080p (i.e. 1920 x 1080), this isn't even close to what a good 35mm slide projector can do.

Just thinkin that isnt lcd-screens and projectors build like foveon sensors? So you need to have like 2..3x bigger bayer sensor to get the same effective resolution? So with 4K projector you would need even bigger bayer sensor camera. At least i am printing images nowdays less and less. Maybee future will be fully digital.. Can anybody think some digital media that would require more than 20Mpix camera?

Sorry, I only just saw your reply to my post!

This is indeed the case for video, which is the reason why the C300 'only' outputs 1080p, it is down ressing a bayer sensor. Projectors use either an rgb pattern for each pixel (like a TV) or use field sequential displays (like the LCD on the panasonic G-series). For projecting stills images, the bayer interpolation to the higher output resolution has already been done (I believe that the bayer patern is quite effective for this) and the image sharpened accordingly. Thus I believe that the resolution of even a 1080p projector fails to do justice to the image.

 

[Orion]

Please don't take DxO marks too seriously, check these marks:
Nikon D5100 is 80
Leica M9 is 69
Sony Nex 7 is 81
Canon 5D mark II is 79

I think they always favour to Nikon or Sony sensors

They don't 'favor' those sensors because they like those brands better. The data are what they are. The important point is to understand what DxOMark is measuring, and consider those factors which matter to you. The numbers you list are their overall scores, which are a composite of measurements of color depth, dynamic range, and ISO noise. The NEX-7 (APS-C sensor) beats the 5DII (FF sensor) because the Sony sensor has slightly better color depth and much better dynamic range, but the Sony also has much more ISO noise. So, if ISO noise is what matters to you, the 5DII is a better choice, even though the NEX-7 scores higher overall.

Why can't Canon score higher overall, then!? They certainly have the knowledge and advances to make it so . . especially when we learn of their ultra high MP sensors ETC. . . . . that old saying: "if they can put a man on the moon. . . ."

. . . .stop beating around the bush!