*UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Just heard a rumor guys, the cr3 spec 5d III/x won't be released in the near future because the pressure from Nikon d800, canon will adjust their spec according to d800 so the 5dIII/x will be delayed!

No link and it's a rumor!
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

It'll be here soon. I get the impression that CR guy would rather let us wait than spout information that may be incorrect - the crux of the specifications is already with us after all. It's likely he got it from a single highly dependable source that has now become mum. No sense in corroborating from other sources since we're so close.

Though, admittedly, I've been checking CR.com every day for new information.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

So not knowing a whole lot more about DR, ISO, etc. I'm debating the 5DmkII (at significantly reduced cost) vs. the mkIII at $3500 for base body. I've already got a 7D some I've got plenty of speed for action and sports. Wanted full frame primarily for portraits, landscapes, so the 3.5 FPS on 5DmkII doesn't have a negative impact. Metering at focus point might, but again there are lots of ways around that with the 5DmkII..

Is anyone (with a 7D) thinking along the same lines (sorry I didn't read all 35 pages).. Anyone have an holes they can poke in the thought? I mean the extra $1500 - $1600 can buy and awfully nice full frame 1.4/1.2 lens..

Jay S.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Jay_S said:
So not knowing a whole lot more about DR, ISO, etc. I'm debating the 5DmkII (at significantly reduced cost) vs. the mkIII at $3500 for base body. I've already got a 7D some I've got plenty of speed for action and sports. Wanted full frame primarily for portraits, landscapes, so the 3.5 FPS on 5DmkII doesn't have a negative impact. Metering at focus point might, but again there are lots of ways around that with the 5DmkII..

Is anyone (with a 7D) thinking along the same lines (sorry I didn't read all 35 pages).. Anyone have an holes they can poke in the thought? I mean the extra $1500 - $1600 can buy and awfully nice full frame 1.4/1.2 lens..

Jay S.

People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

Otherwise, we should all trust Canon - if they're pricing it at $3500, it's because they know it's good. Take a look at the 24-70 II. We were all confounded at the high price tag, but we've since learned that the IQ is god-tier from people who have used it. Simply put, Canon seems to know what they're doing. The things we don't know about the MK III could be good things.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

mkrimmer said:
dystorsion said:
People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

evidence? evidence that 3500$ is actually the kit-price?

I'm sorry but I didn't bookmark any links. I was browsing dpreview.com, fredmiranda.com, and here and came across a few who think so.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

dystorsion said:
Jay_S said:
So not knowing a whole lot more about DR, ISO, etc. I'm debating the 5DmkII (at significantly reduced cost) vs. the mkIII at $3500 for base body. I've already got a 7D some I've got plenty of speed for action and sports. Wanted full frame primarily for portraits, landscapes, so the 3.5 FPS on 5DmkII doesn't have a negative impact. Metering at focus point might, but again there are lots of ways around that with the 5DmkII..

Is anyone (with a 7D) thinking along the same lines (sorry I didn't read all 35 pages).. Anyone have an holes they can poke in the thought? I mean the extra $1500 - $1600 can buy and awfully nice full frame 1.4/1.2 lens..

Jay S.

People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

Otherwise, we should all trust Canon - if they're pricing it at $3500, it's because they know it's good. Take a look at the 24-70 II. We were all confounded at the high price tag, but we've since learned that the IQ is god-tier from people who have used it. Simply put, Canon seems to know what they're doing. The things we don't know about the MK III could be good things.
I'm curious about what kit lens that would be...Plastic Fantastic? :P
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

I'm not sure I've seen any posts about a kit lens, and not sure what lens they would throw in that has enough value to raise to a $3500 price tag. You're not going to put a junk lens in with what has the potential to be a new standard body for many photographers.. That's like the old "putting $29 speakers on a $2000 receiver" analogy. There may be some combo deals out there, or if the price tag with a kit kens is $3500 and its a decent lens, maybe the body is back down in the more reasonable range.

Jay S.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Hey Jay,

I'm in the same boat. I'd already decided to upgrade to the 5D 4 months ago, so did some reading and decided I'd hang out until the next body was announced. I'm using the 7D to the best of it's ability, and I use it 50/50 for video and pics, so I'm pretty locked on the new body, even at the high price point. Which, from looking at it, would make sense to be with a kit lens. But again, no one knows anything until Canon announce. But guessing is fun....
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Jay_S said:
So not knowing a whole lot more about DR, ISO, etc. I'm debating the 5DmkII (at significantly reduced cost) vs. the mkIII at $3500 for base body. I've already got a 7D some I've got plenty of speed for action and sports. Wanted full frame primarily for portraits, landscapes, so the 3.5 FPS on 5DmkII doesn't have a negative impact. Metering at focus point might, but again there are lots of ways around that with the 5DmkII..

Is anyone (with a 7D) thinking along the same lines (sorry I didn't read all 35 pages).. Anyone have an holes they can poke in the thought? I mean the extra $1500 - $1600 can buy and awfully nice full frame 1.4/1.2 lens..

Jay S.

I also have a 7d and looking to upgrade to FF, but I think the mk iii might be a better option, because, if need be, I can get rid of my 7d and use the 5d mk iii for sports/nature with the higher fps, where the mk ii is not as versatile.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

simonxu11 said:
Just heard a rumor guys, the cr3 spec 5d III/x won't be released in the near future because the pressure from Nikon d800, canon will adjust their spec according to d800 so the 5dIII/x will be delayed!

No link and it's a rumor!

You can't just make a statement like this and not provide more info other than "no link and it's a rumor!" where did you just hear a rumor. Is it wild speculation from some post in a forum or from a reasonably reliable blog?
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

just a guess, but, I can't see them using anything less than the 24-105 f4L as the 'kit' lens. If we assume that the kit L lens will be bundled for an extra $800, that would mean the body price would be $2700 (assuming the $3500 price tag is both accurate and with lens). I don't know, something in me says $2700 would be too low, $2900, or the silly 2999 tag may be applied (lol, it looks less than 3000, lol, its silly but there is a rule of 5's and 9's in pricing for a reason!) - so kit would then fall in at $3700, or, they could take a loss on the 24-105 and boom, looks like a great deal!!! With all the mkii lenses now, the 24-105 may very well get an update soon, so tossing a serious discount on it may in the end just be a way to clear inventory.

As with all this stuff though, who the hell knows!!!!
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Jay_S said:
People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

I'm not sure I've seen any posts about a kit lens, and not sure what lens they would throw in that has enough value to raise to a $3500 price tag. You're not going to put a junk lens in with what has the potential to be a new standard body for many photographers.. That's like the old "putting $29 speakers on a $2000 receiver" analogy. There may be some combo deals out there, or if the price tag with a kit kens is $3500 and its a decent lens, maybe the body is back down in the more reasonable range.

Jay S.

The current 24-105 kit is about $800 more than the body alone so that would equal a price of $2700 which does not seem impossible to me.

Bit of a long shot but perhaps the rumorued 40mm 2.8 pancake? the new 18-135mm is likely going to be a kit with the 650D and the pancake was rumoured along side it.

Just heard a rumor guys, the cr3 spec 5d III/x won't be released in the near future because the pressure from Nikon d800, canon will adjust their spec according to d800 so the 5dIII/x will be delayed!

No link and it's a rumor!

Seems very unlikely to me, the Nikon specs have been known almost definately for 3-4 months and 36 megapixels has been strongly rumoured since last summer.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Musouka said:
Maybe someone would jump on stage and shout "Yo Canon, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but the Nikon D800E is the best prosumer camera of all time.... OF ALL TIME" ;)

On a slightly different note:

Nikon: 16 Megapixels is “More Than Enough” for a Camera

That was before the D800 was announced, naturally. ::)

hah, wow
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Autocall said:
Mooose said:
Autocall said:
absolutely NO mention is made about the sensor' size in the specs.
Could very well be the 7D II.
Anyone think the same?

absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs. Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?

canadian or belgian?
:o

how fast does it make them (unencumbered)?
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

simonxu11 said:
Just heard a rumor guys, the cr3 spec 5d III/x won't be released in the near future because the pressure from Nikon d800, canon will adjust their spec according to d800 so the 5dIII/x will be delayed!

No link and it's a rumor!

I doubt it, but I'd be glad. If they need to spec it up, then do it and delay us 4-6 months rather than try to get us to spend $3000 for some lame update we have to use until 2015.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Jay_S said:
People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

I'm not sure I've seen any posts about a kit lens, and not sure what lens they would throw in that has enough value to raise to a $3500 price tag. You're not going to put a junk lens in with what has the potential to be a new standard body for many photographers.. That's like the old "putting $29 speakers on a $2000 receiver" analogy. There may be some combo deals out there, or if the price tag with a kit kens is $3500 and its a decent lens, maybe the body is back down in the more reasonable range.

Jay S.

The rumor I saw was $3800 Canadian with kit lens. I don't have the link. Some of the forums have no msg body search and I don't want to spend an hour tracking it down. I spent 5 minutes and couldn't find it again quickly.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Jay_S said:
People are speculating that $3500 is with kit lens. Users from other forums seem to have evidence.

I'm not sure I've seen any posts about a kit lens, and not sure what lens they would throw in that has enough value to raise to a $3500 price tag. You're not going to put a junk lens in with what has the potential to be a new standard body for many photographers.. That's like the old "putting $29 speakers on a $2000 receiver" analogy. There may be some combo deals out there, or if the price tag with a kit kens is $3500 and its a decent lens, maybe the body is back down in the more reasonable range.

Jay S.

For example

The EOS 5D Mark II will be sold in a body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $2,699iii. It will additionally be offered in a kit version with Canon's EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $3,499iv.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

another interesting detail: do you guys think the new 5d will be available right after the announcement or in a few month? i saw a information about a NDA which ends on monday. and if that means the journalists already have their test units then the new 5d might be ready for sale.

what do you think?

And: CR-guy wrote: "Announcement on February 27 or 28, 2012 (Depending where you are on earth)"

I'm on the european part of the earth. does that mean 27th or 28th of feb?
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

mkrimmer said:
another interesting detail: do you guys think the new 5d will be available right after the announcement or in a few month? i saw a information about a NDA which ends on monday. and if that means the journalists already have their test units then the new 5d might be ready for sale.

what do you think?

And: CR-guy wrote: "Announcement on February 27 or 28, 2012 (Depending where you are on earth)"

I'm on the european part of the earth. does that mean 27th or 28th of feb?

In the past they would often be in stores 3-4 weeks after the announcement, although it seems to be taking longer with each release. I believe the 5D2 took three months to hit stores.
 
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