*UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Brian, re-look at what I said in the context it was stated. No one said the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds.
Obviously the 1Ds3 is overall a way better camera considering all it's functions. The context of the statement was in response to another poster who argued that the 5D3 deserved it's high price given what it will be able to do and that to think it should cost $3000 (or less) ignored all it's advanced functions, etc.:
I simply pointed out that the 5D2 outperformed the 1Ds3 in terms of image quality, ISO, and had video features not found in any camera, at a price that was $7000+ less than the 1Ds3. The poster's logic was flawed in his reasoning when an obvious example of great technology and functionality was previously available for $7k+ less.
Re-read the full posting, I think you'll understand my point.
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Brian, re-look at what I said in the context it was stated. No one said the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds.
Obviously the 1Ds3 is overall a way better camera considering all it's functions. The context of the statement was in response to another poster who argued that the 5D3 deserved it's high price given what it will be able to do and that to think it should cost $3000 (or less) ignored all it's advanced functions, etc.:
I simply pointed out that the 5D2 outperformed the 1Ds3 in terms of image quality, ISO, and had video features not found in any camera, at a price that was $7000+ less than the 1Ds3. The poster's logic was flawed in his reasoning when an obvious example of great technology and functionality was previously available for $7k+ less.
Re-read the full posting, I think you'll understand my point.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Sorry i thought that "the 5D2 beat the 1DsIII for image quality" meant that the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds3 and that you were trying to say that the cheaper camera performed better than the expensive one. 8) 8) 8)
Having both the 5D2 and the 1Ds3 I can assure you that at lower ISO (up to 1600) the 5D2 doesn't have the best image quality - which is what I was trying to point out.
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Sorry i thought that "the 5D2 beat the 1DsIII for image quality" meant that the 5D2 was better than the 1Ds3 and that you were trying to say that the cheaper camera performed better than the expensive one. 8) 8) 8)
Having both the 5D2 and the 1Ds3 I can assure you that at lower ISO (up to 1600) the 5D2 doesn't have the best image quality - which is what I was trying to point out.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
39MP, 6.5fps, crippled version of 1DX AF
mitchell3417 said:So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?
After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.
39MP, 6.5fps, crippled version of 1DX AF
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Agreed, in particular ISO 100 on the 1Ds3 still has the best IQ of all Canon cameras. I've had nearly every single one since the 300D to measure it against.
Exciting times ahead with the 1Dx
Agreed, in particular ISO 100 on the 1Ds3 still has the best IQ of all Canon cameras. I've had nearly every single one since the 300D to measure it against.
Exciting times ahead with the 1Dx
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs. Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?
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I was actually thinking more along the lines of a super Ginsu knife.....but then it would cost $19.95, and you could double the offer for only $9.95 handing and shipping.
absolutely NO mention of it being a camera in the specs. Could very well be a waffle maker.
Anyone think the same?
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I was actually thinking more along the lines of a super Ginsu knife.....but then it would cost $19.95, and you could double the offer for only $9.95 handing and shipping.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
2MP - Because according to many self proclaimed experts you dont need many pixels as long as they are good ones.
Quad digic 5+ produces a burst speed of 1247.3 images a second AT FULL RESOLUTION! wow...
4 pixel mode - multiple photosites on the sensor used per pixel to produce the ulimate in light sensitivity... ISO 3 x 10 ^8. Can produce 2x2 pixel images noise free in 99.999% darkness!
The new cameras name will be the 5d-WTF and will be available 2012/04/01 at all good Walmart stores...
mitchell3417 said:So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?
After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.
2MP - Because according to many self proclaimed experts you dont need many pixels as long as they are good ones.
Quad digic 5+ produces a burst speed of 1247.3 images a second AT FULL RESOLUTION! wow...
4 pixel mode - multiple photosites on the sensor used per pixel to produce the ulimate in light sensitivity... ISO 3 x 10 ^8. Can produce 2x2 pixel images noise free in 99.999% darkness!
The new cameras name will be the 5d-WTF and will be available 2012/04/01 at all good Walmart stores...
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Finally, some marketing that makes sense.
The next gen will be co created by Apple called iCamera, a .5mp, 1.2 fps burst mode. It will be sold for $10,000, have ilenses that sell for $4000 ea. F8 only aperature making focus a breeze! They will come in a rainbow of colors, touchscreen controls and you must pay 99 cents to view each exposure. Nikon will of course be bankrupt in 3 years time. Chargers, memory cards, printers, their paper and ink, flashes and all accessories will be proprietary and only available through Apple. All retail stores selling the icamera will pay $9,990 per camera and $3,990 per lens. Justin Bieber will sing the theme song on the commercials and each year, a new camera will make an innovation that's been out for a long time. Photography as a profession will be eliminated, since everyone will own one, even the homeless. Thanks for selling out.
SomeGuyInNewJersey said:mitchell3417 said:So...who wants to guess the 5DX Mark II specs?
After 500 posts on this topic why not try something new.
2MP - Because according to many self proclaimed experts you dont need many pixels as long as they are good ones.
Quad digic 5+ produces a burst speed of 1247.3 images a second AT FULL RESOLUTION! wow...
4 pixel mode - multiple photosites on the sensor used per pixel to produce the ulimate in light sensitivity... ISO 3 x 10 ^8. Can produce 2x2 pixel images noise free in 99.999% darkness!
The new cameras name will be the 5d-WTF and will be available 2012/04/01 at all good Walmart stores...
Finally, some marketing that makes sense.
The next gen will be co created by Apple called iCamera, a .5mp, 1.2 fps burst mode. It will be sold for $10,000, have ilenses that sell for $4000 ea. F8 only aperature making focus a breeze! They will come in a rainbow of colors, touchscreen controls and you must pay 99 cents to view each exposure. Nikon will of course be bankrupt in 3 years time. Chargers, memory cards, printers, their paper and ink, flashes and all accessories will be proprietary and only available through Apple. All retail stores selling the icamera will pay $9,990 per camera and $3,990 per lens. Justin Bieber will sing the theme song on the commercials and each year, a new camera will make an innovation that's been out for a long time. Photography as a profession will be eliminated, since everyone will own one, even the homeless. Thanks for selling out.
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Maybe someone would jump on stage and shout "Yo Canon, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but the Nikon D800E is the best prosumer camera of all time.... OF ALL TIME"
On a slightly different note:
Nikon: 16 Megapixels is “More Than Enough” for a Camera
That was before the D800 was announced, naturally. :
Maybe someone would jump on stage and shout "Yo Canon, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but the Nikon D800E is the best prosumer camera of all time.... OF ALL TIME"
On a slightly different note:
Nikon: 16 Megapixels is “More Than Enough” for a Camera
That was before the D800 was announced, naturally. :
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Dated 13 January 2012.
Hilarious. No doubt its before the D800 was announced, but you'd think a Nikon Europe rep would have known about a MegaPixel monster that was coming right after...
"Whoops"? ???
+1 to you sir, for making my day
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Dated 13 January 2012.
Hilarious. No doubt its before the D800 was announced, but you'd think a Nikon Europe rep would have known about a MegaPixel monster that was coming right after...
"Whoops"? ???
+1 to you sir, for making my day
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
Much like the 7D - although Canon describe the 7D's metering as biased to the AF point in use: but as an ex Nikon user, I can confidently say that it adds up to the same thing.
Irrelevant if the 7D is as fast as you need it to be - which it is.
The 1D[insert number of choice] users I was shoulder-to-shoulder with here didn't get this shot - and this was with a creaky old 100-400mm too...
Schoolboy error with that shot - it's at 3200 ISO, because I'd forgotten to reset it after shooting a gig the night before.
Still, it made for a nice high shutter speed!
Only if you use the right lens - the 7D has spot with any lens.briansquibb said:
Much like the 7D - although Canon describe the 7D's metering as biased to the AF point in use: but as an ex Nikon user, I can confidently say that it adds up to the same thing.
Irrelevant if the 7D is as fast as you need it to be - which it is.
The 1D[insert number of choice] users I was shoulder-to-shoulder with here didn't get this shot - and this was with a creaky old 100-400mm too...
Schoolboy error with that shot - it's at 3200 ISO, because I'd forgotten to reset it after shooting a gig the night before.
Still, it made for a nice high shutter speed!
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
If you are happy with the 7D then that is good 8) 8) 8)
I will stick to my series 1 8) 8) 8)
When I argued from this point for the 5D2 there was a flurry of activity from the 7D fans who criticised the AF on the 5D2 labelling it disatrous - and I got 30 smites in response.
For BIF/sports etc the AF needs to lock as quick as possible - even my old 1Ds3 out performs the 7D from this point of view. I had 2 7Ds which I used alongside the 1D4 and I wouldn't go back to the simplified AF system on the 7D.
I am hoping that the next 5D has a better AF than the 7D and hopefully as good or better than the 1Ds3. With the series 1 style AF cross-type focusing on all 39 AF points works with the 17-40 and 24-105 which is excellent news considering he popularity of those lens. For studio work the 7D style spot AF might be useful if it could be selected seperately from a normal AF point without changing a Custom function
Other things I would like from the series 1:
- Spot metering linked to the AF points. With 39 AF points it is easier to compose with the AF point where you need it - and get the metering correct at that point
- multispot metering - means tricky objects such as a wedding dress can be exposed correctly
- up to 7 shot bracketing for those difficult light shots/hdr with +-3 stop with variable AEB amount. Sequence to be done through holding down the shutter whilst in continuous drive mode
If you are happy with the 7D then that is good 8) 8) 8)
I will stick to my series 1 8) 8) 8)
When I argued from this point for the 5D2 there was a flurry of activity from the 7D fans who criticised the AF on the 5D2 labelling it disatrous - and I got 30 smites in response.
For BIF/sports etc the AF needs to lock as quick as possible - even my old 1Ds3 out performs the 7D from this point of view. I had 2 7Ds which I used alongside the 1D4 and I wouldn't go back to the simplified AF system on the 7D.
I am hoping that the next 5D has a better AF than the 7D and hopefully as good or better than the 1Ds3. With the series 1 style AF cross-type focusing on all 39 AF points works with the 17-40 and 24-105 which is excellent news considering he popularity of those lens. For studio work the 7D style spot AF might be useful if it could be selected seperately from a normal AF point without changing a Custom function
Other things I would like from the series 1:
- Spot metering linked to the AF points. With 39 AF points it is easier to compose with the AF point where you need it - and get the metering correct at that point
- multispot metering - means tricky objects such as a wedding dress can be exposed correctly
- up to 7 shot bracketing for those difficult light shots/hdr with +-3 stop with variable AEB amount. Sequence to be done through holding down the shutter whilst in continuous drive mode
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