*UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]

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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

$3500 is completely consistent with my expectations given Canon's new push for profit margins. A basic kit of the 5DIII with the new 24-70 II will set you back $3500+$2400=$5900. The 5DII with old 24-70 is $2000+$1270=$3270 or a difference of $2630. You would get sharper images with better AF but at a very substantial cost. If you're only using the 5DII's center AF point and don't have great technique sticking with the older gear would give you enough savings to purchase a lot more camera gear.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Shnookums said:
So, same AF as the 1Dx, including the f/8 limitation? Also, it would be nice of Canon to release cameras and not only announce them...

Actually, Canon has not even announced anything yet. So, it's anyone's guess when they will ship it.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

canartist said:
t.linn said:
The price is higher than I expected too but I think you have to keep several things in mind:

1. Strength of the yen

Well, d700 was launched at $2999. so yen didn't strengthen for Nikon?

my thoughts exactly.


If my options are
1. sell canon gear and switch to nikon
2. sell 5d2 get 5d3

I guess the $ 300/500 price difference D800/5d3 makes option 2 worse than option 1.

there must be some hidden spec or something that justifies that price.
otherwise, fail.
looks like 5d2 v d700 reversed. (recall, 5d2 outsold d700)
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Wow.. really suprised how many people are okay with the pricing o__O

They can't keep this price imho... It is way way way too much.. In Germany usually Dollar = Euro.. :(

e.g. the new 24-70 has a RRP with 2299 EUR - Same as in America in USD..

Street Price should be ~20% lower... which means a 5DMIII is at 2800 to 3000 EUR... At the moment you can already preorder a Nikon D800 for about 2650,- EUR... A 5DMII atm is at 1700,- EUR

Canon is really freaking out if they want a 3500$ RRP Price O___O
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Sounds great. I'm a bit surprised regarding the dual card slots, but the rest is pretty much what I was hoping for. I just hope the high ISO performance will be as good as I hope, but there is no question - I'll be preordering as soon as I am allowed to.

So....when will the 5Dmk4 rumors start showing up ;)
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

CR guy thanks for the CR3, +1 to you.... Very disappointed with the price here myself... :-[

+1 to Canartist for his comment on the Yen not affected Nikon only affected Canon? Since when did Canon start becoming elitist and charging premiums... I guess since it started copying Nikon. So is Nikon the next Canon?

I really hope the price is closer to USD $2700-$2800....
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

TheLordOfIt said:
Wow.. really suprised how many people are okay with the pricing o__O

They can't keep this price imho... It is way way way too much.. In Germany usually Dollar = Euro.. :(

e.g. the new 24-70 has a RRP with 2299 EUR - Same as in America in USD..

Street Price should be ~20% lower... which means a 5DMIII is at 2800 to 3000 EUR... At the moment you can already preorder a Nikon D800 for about 2650,- EUR... A 5DMII atm is at 1700,- EUR

Canon is really freaking out if they want a 3500$ RRP Price O___O

The $3500 makes sense in terms of features compared to the rest of canon's lineup.

But it makes absolutely no sense compared to D800.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

I want to know about ISO performance and DR.

A little disapointed at the price, I was really hopping to spend a max of 3,000. I'll have to wait and see what the reviews say (and think of a way to explain the price to the misses).

Time to start praying for the Yen to rally against the dollar..............
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Hmmm... not thrilled with the CF+SD card slots... would prefer 2 of either... I guess maybe if you could have raw files sent to 1 and jpegs sent to the SD? Still grasping at straws on how that could be helpful. Price seems steep but I suppose it's the price of technology... As neuro said, getting all the photos in focus would be priceless, but I hope they sneak in a few extras that the 7d has to make it worth our while... now i need to explain the increase in price to my wife... great... :P
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

I was really excited for this camera until I saw the price.
Dual memory cards is something I need and I would have paid $2900 for those new specs, but for $3500 it's going to need to have weather sealing and a few more stops of DR for me to reconsider.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

We are talking launch price, so of course it's going to be a bit hefty. The original 5d2 released in USA was priced at $2699. When the 7d came out at $1699+ people were whining it was overpriced even though it had an improved AF system for a crop body.

Given the possible improvements that were mentioned like 100% VF, iso stop improvement by 1-2?, improved fps?, dual card slots, improvement in weather seals? a price range between $2999-3699 for the body is fair and I believe justified when given the addition of a better AF system.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

A little disappointed in the price level, but not surprised with the price of the new 24-70.
FWIW:
New 20D Oct. 2005......$1829
New 5D Jan. 2007......$2789
New 5D2 Apr. 2009......$2699
New 7D Mar. 2011......$1499

Notice the 5D Classic at $2789, back in 07! Not too surprised at all for the New 5.
But this might just decide for me to go with another 5D2 and hand the 7D down to my daughter. Undecided.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

The only thing I can see the dual CF/SD cards useful for is, I can shoot raw to the CF and then jpegs to SD, and use a eye-fi card. I get the raws for my use, and directly upload the jpegs to the web for my family to pick through.

Curious about FPS/buffer when using both cards. I assume it will go down.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Canon 14-24 said:
We are talking launch price, so of course it's going to be a bit hefty. The original 5d2 released in USA was priced at $2699. When the 7d came out at $1699+ people were whining it was overpriced even though it had an improved AF system for a crop body.

Given the possible improvements that were mentioned like 100% VF, iso stop improvement by 1-2?, improved fps?, dual card slots, improvement in weather seals? a price range between $2999-3499 for the body is fair and I believe justified when given the addition of a better AF system.

Agreed. And how many of us have said all along that we would be happy to part with extra cash if Canon even only sort out the AF?
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

I'm always amused by the fact that as buyers, we often think we're being ripped off by the vendors. And yet probably everyone on this forum works for a company (even their own), which sells something, be it a product or a service. How many of us complain to our company that we might be slightly over-egging our position / price point?

Every year, we expect our companies to pay us a bonus and a pay hike, no doubt Canon employees expect the same. Is Canon any different in terms of it's pricing? It basically prices it's products at whatever it thinks it can get away with. I'm sure the companies we all work for, do similarly....

A combination of market forces and economic recovery may help to reduce the price in time. Early adopters always pay a premium. I just upgraded my PC to Sandy Bridge, having skipped the previous gen, and expecting to skip the next gen in H2. Sure I could have waited for Ivy bridge to knock down pricing further, but it hit my price point, and I bought.

If you want to upgrade when it is first released, you'll have to pay the premium. Those looking at the 1Dx may however be looking at a bargain.... :D interesting times.
 
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Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]

Canon 14-24 said:
We are talking launch price, so of course it's going to be a bit hefty. The original 5d2 released in USA was priced at $2699. When the 7d came out at $1699+ people were whining it was overpriced even though it had an improved AF system for a crop body.

Given the possible improvements that were mentioned like 100% VF, iso stop improvement by 1-2?, improved fps?, dual card slots, improvement in weather seals? a price range between $2999-3499 for the body is fair and I believe justified when given the addition of a better AF system.

Launch price doesn't change that much until there's enough products in the used market to compensate... The 7D held its $1699 for a good year and a half... It was just last 12 months or so the 5D2 dropped from it's $2600 launch price... Lenses prices have increased over the last few years... If your waiting on price drops, you'll be waiting a while
 
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