Re: Update to EOS 5DS & 5DS R Coming in 2017? [CR1]
neurorx said:
In all sincerity, would Canon do this so closely following the 5D IV release? I just received mine and its an ok upgrade mostly on features, but it isn't a WOW upgrade from the 5D III. Maybe I built up my hopes too much. I spent Thanksgiving comparing shots with different lenses and different lighting and the IV was slightly better but nothing that really was dramatic. I really was hoping to see a jump in resolution to be more apparent. I've held off on the 5Ds/R because of the perceived sensitivity to moving objects and lower light (wildlife or some landscapes). I often find myself in taking pictures in difficult to get places where I only cant readily use a tripod and I still need a low light 'sport-capable camera for the kiddo's shots." Reading all of the less than positive reviews for the 5D IV isnt helping me feel good about the purchase. Having the 7DII's speed isnt something I am after as I find in most gyms the fps across 3 seconds doesnt really matter as much.
Advice?-Do I just return my IV and keep the III with hopes there will be a hand hold-able camera landscape wildlife camera that will ?
Having used all 3 models of 5D mentioned above, I will say that the images that
wow me the most tend to come from the 5DS R. Paired with a well-resolving lens (in my case, the 100 2.8L Macro), there just isn't anything else like it in the Canon system, or like anything I've seen from any DSLR. The colors are vibrant out of camera and the detail is incredible when the shot is nailed. Good, sharp detail is surprisingly maintained all the way to ISO 6400, unlike the 5D3 and 5D4 that begin to smudge/smooth out well before that point. The trade-off, of course, is more noise, which may be fine for certain applications - and anyway, the noise seems to be a finer grain which makes it more tolerable (for me). The difference between 22 and 30 MP is noticeable, but the difference between 22 and 50 MP w/no AA effect is
dramatic.
The 5D4 is good in its own way too, mostly in AF consistency (improved noticeably from the 5D3) and increased editing latitude in boosting harsh shadows. High ISO is also improved, although I feel it comes at the cost of a softer image overall. I also find myself needing to boost color saturation more frequently with this camera than with both the 5D3 and 5DSR. It's better than the 5D3, but it's not "WOW" better. In fact, I think out of camera the images are actually softer out of the 4 than the 3 and often need more USM fine-tuning. OTOH, I rarely if ever need to sharpen 5DSR images...(if I need to, it's usually to compensate for induced blur or softness, but then downsizing is also very effective with that).
All that said, I use the 5DSR only as a specialist camera - the 5D3 and 5D4 remain my main rigs. The R excels in composed shots, but for general event and walkaround photography, I feel its drawbacks become more obvious - the slowness, high ISO limitations, the demanding nature of 50MP on your lenses and shooting techniques, etc.
If you are looking for more detail than what you are getting out of your 5D4, then really, the only two options within the Canon system are either a 5DS/5DSR or wait for Mark V or 5DS successor (which could be a longer than expected wait, and one can't shoot with vaporware).
