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What about an EF-S tilt shift lens with AF and IS?
AF is easily supported by DPAF in a very convenient manner and available in all new APS-C cameras.
IS is a nice add and the larger mechanics for TS hide the small increase of complexity with an image stabilization group.
Reuse e.g. the 24 EF IS USM lens design for a larger image circle, put the TS mimics beween EF and EF-S mount and you are there.
The last APS-C cameras from canon seem to be close to FF in terms of IQ and the IS feature helps to keep ISO low.
What about an EF-S tilt shift lens with AF and IS?
AF is easily supported by DPAF in a very convenient manner and available in all new APS-C cameras.
IS is a nice add and the larger mechanics for TS hide the small increase of complexity with an image stabilization group.
Reuse e.g. the 24 EF IS USM lens design for a larger image circle, put the TS mimics beween EF and EF-S mount and you are there.
The last APS-C cameras from canon seem to be close to FF in terms of IQ and the IS feature helps to keep ISO low.
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mb66energy said:
Is it technically even possible to have AF on a Tilt/Shift lens, or why do they all happen to have no AF on board? Anyways, that surely would be a great thing (though I'm not necessarily in need of something like this).
AUGS said:
+1 That'd be really nice (especially the coma-correction)! But wouldn't it be quite expensive to put BR optics inside a consumer-grade EF-S prime? A lens with BR optics inside might degrade over time as it is something organic - but I don't know if this will actually be the case!
P.S.: The Samyang 10mm f/2.8 for example has pretty low coma which is good for astro. If they can make a lens with such a performance at that price, Canon could too, just with AF and maybe a little bit more expensive (but not by too much). I canceled my order of the Samyang 10mm 2.8 just to hold off until I know more about the new Canon EF-S prime, and then I will decide which one to buy. Want to use it mainly for landscape/astro.
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douglaurent said:
Right now I couldn't care less about a Canon mirrorless camera. Plenty of great lens around, awesome selection of second hand lenses. I'm not the one who likes messing around with a manual lens worth of 20 bucks on a three grand camera body pretending to be artsy.
EF lenses are awesome, and quite frankly if one is not able to shoot what he or she wants to shoot, then it's clrealy not the camera bodys fault.
The 6D and the SL1 are probably the loveliest barebone DSLR cameras atm. The most simple FF EF accoupled with the most simple APSC.
I wish they had a different styling, the 90s just called and they want their Canikon design back.
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BigAntTVProductions said:
We know it's wide (= between 15mm and 22mm), has IS, and STM focusing motor.
As Canon already makes an EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, and I doubt it will make a prime that overlaps with it. All the more so as the EF-M 22mm STM doesn't have IS.
So my money is still on 15mm.
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I don't know what you expect. I have an A7rii and wouldn't rely solely on it. The 99ii seems to have its quirks, too, with mostly older screwdrive lenses, subpar 70-200/2.8 (and overprized), conflicting reports on AF, sensitivity which isn't close to the -4ev they are marketing it. If you think an A9 is a replacement for everything one needs to wait first what exactly this camera will be and how it performs (again conflicting reports on resolution etc.). OSPDAF has limitations compared to dedicated PDAF (which are not easy to overcome, especially in dim light and with lenses starting strongly OOF, or tracking, due to not acting on the OOF field but in focus field, which prevents phase information as soon as the light rays are within the COC). I find Canon DPAF to be superior on my 5d4. The new Sony camera will be in the 6000+ Euro range, so not a camera for the masses but only a selected few. Sony flash support is something I really curse from time to time (specifically this stupid flash mount which results in tiny plastic flash foots which won't hold tight but leave room to flash wiggle. Every time I turn the head I am afraid to tear the flash off). Your last paragraph is just nonsense. You can use an 5d4 like a mirrorless with DPAF, I do that regularly. DPAF is a great innovation, you can focus with your 200mm from complete OOF down to -4ev on the touch of your finger. My A7rii is hunting like crazy when trying this (and wors so when stopping down to f4 or further). If you can't get along with an 1dxii or 5div you should switch your profession.douglaurent said:
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2 new camera bodies and 3 new lenses is enough for most folks as long as their pretty amazing in their on right.
I get countless msgs from viewers on youtube asking about a SL2 replacement all the time. It is a very popular little camera it seems. Ever Pro and non-Pro shooter out there is looking forward to the 6D2. Pros would like to have it if nothing else for a 2nd camera body and non-Pros love having a quality FF camera without breaking the bank.
135mm f/2 I hope gets IS. It needs IS at this point and still retain f/2 aperture.
85mm is seriously in need for an update, including both L and non-L versions. I personally hope both get updated.
The new EFS Prime. IDK about this yet.. Need more info.
That said, I really wished would could see a new L and non-L 50mm lens with IS. Even if they both got bumped down a half stop to allow for the IS system that would still be great IMHO..
I get countless msgs from viewers on youtube asking about a SL2 replacement all the time. It is a very popular little camera it seems. Ever Pro and non-Pro shooter out there is looking forward to the 6D2. Pros would like to have it if nothing else for a 2nd camera body and non-Pros love having a quality FF camera without breaking the bank.
135mm f/2 I hope gets IS. It needs IS at this point and still retain f/2 aperture.
85mm is seriously in need for an update, including both L and non-L versions. I personally hope both get updated.
The new EFS Prime. IDK about this yet.. Need more info.
That said, I really wished would could see a new L and non-L 50mm lens with IS. Even if they both got bumped down a half stop to allow for the IS system that would still be great IMHO..
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How do you mean? Are you saying none of the proposed products interest YOU? If so, that's fair, but other people are entitled to their own opinions.douglaurent said:
"Innovation" is a matter of opinion: "mirrorless" (i.e., CDAF) has existed for over two decades, so there's no innovation there. We're just waiting for CDAF to evolve to the point that it meets the same speed/accuracy standard as PDAF.
Then time's a-wasting! Quit making excuses based on your gear and get out there and make images!
It's rare that a professional photographer can do exactly what they love to do and make a comfortable living. The vast majority of pros do what customers will pay for so they can pay the bills and save for retirement. Why do you expect this to be different for an equipment manufacturer?
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I think too much is being expected of the "unique feature" for the EF-S lens.
TS/E is right out - most crop shooters won't pay for, nor know how to use, such a thing.
I would have expected internal zoom, only of course it's a prime. Do any EF-S lenses have internal focus? Regardless, that's probably not much of a big deal on a landscape lens. Weather-sealing would only matter on what, the 7D, 7D2, and 80D? Too narrow to brag about.
That being the case, my money is on one or both of "bulbous front element" and "included/ built-in hood". No EF-S lens comes with the hood, right? If it's as wide as some are hoping, it could need one or both of these.
TS/E is right out - most crop shooters won't pay for, nor know how to use, such a thing.
I would have expected internal zoom, only of course it's a prime. Do any EF-S lenses have internal focus? Regardless, that's probably not much of a big deal on a landscape lens. Weather-sealing would only matter on what, the 7D, 7D2, and 80D? Too narrow to brag about.
That being the case, my money is on one or both of "bulbous front element" and "included/ built-in hood". No EF-S lens comes with the hood, right? If it's as wide as some are hoping, it could need one or both of these.
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LonelyBoy said:
Good point. If it has such a bulbous front element with a built-in hood (which many UWAs feature), then I'm guessing it is at or below 14mm. But I'm not so sure if we can call it a "unique" feature having a built-in hood, because that's pretty common among other UWAs.
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Bernard said:
I think he means that it will be hated by some, adored by some, and condemned as evil by yet others. Mainly, he means it will be a huge hit, especially financially
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_to_Hell
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