Updated Canon 2016 Roadmap

[Orangutan]

When a member is manifestly trolling or posts a ridiculous assertion and backs it up with incorrect information, and has a long history of doing so, I'll respond with ridicule and scorn, and do so unapologetically.

'Worse' is refusing to acknowledge one's mistakes.
'Worse' is failing to learn from one's mistakes.

Responding with ridicule and scorn has been ineffective. You may wish to try some other approach.

Your judgement regarding effectiveness (or lack thereof) is predicated on an assumption regarding my intent. You may with to consider if that assumption is warranted.

True 'nuff.

 

[Loswr]

 

[bvukich]

I'm a month late, but I have to say I mostly agree with Dilbert in principle.

Before everyone started attacking him, and arguing about minutia, his basic premise was correct. If some yahoo shows up to shoot a wedding with a Rebel, they are without a doubt not getting the results they could with a better body, and I would hesitate to call someone that would do that a professional; because that is a very unprofessional move.

I disagree with the 1-series body cutoff, but that seemed to appear later after everyone jumped on him. I personally would include the 5-series, and the 6D at least in a second/backup capacity.

Equipment isn't everything, no one is arguing that it is. For a talent-less hack such as myself, the capabilities of a 1DX would be largely wasted. But there is no way to successfully argue against the fact that you can get better results with better equipment.

 

[Kwwund]

I don't agree with the notion that you can tell a professional by the camera he or she carries. If I were hiring a wedding photographer, I'd look at his portfolio and make my decision without even asking what kind of camera he carried.

By the way, I'm a yahoo with a T3i. I'm not a great photographer, and I wouldn't suddenly become a professional if I bought a 1-series camera. I doubt anyone would be fooled.

 

[Orangutan]

If some yahoo shows up to shoot a wedding with a Rebel, they are without a doubt not getting the results they could with a better body,

I've heard from people who say it cuts both ways: one of the faults of the 1-series is that it encourages machine-gun style photography. A person could argue that the inferior speed and AF of a Rebel (and those are primarily the qualities we're talking about) would encourage a photographer to be more thoughtful about their work. Occasionally I hear of people playing a game of "digital 36:" go out with your digital camera for a shoot and take exactly one "roll" of film.

If the client's expectation is PJ-style capture of a fast-moving event then you are correct, a Rebel will not keep up. If the purpose is to create beautiful photos, I'd say the lens, and the person behind it, are much more important.

 

[Antono Refa]

If some yahoo shows up to shoot a wedding with a Rebel, they are without a doubt not getting the results they could with a better body

The question isn't whether they could get better results, its whether the results they get are good enough, and more specifically

1. Are the rebel cameras inferior to the film cameras wedding photographers used, say, 20 years ago?

2. If a rebel is good enough, why would a pro pay extra?

 

[Jack Douglas]

Rather than just look for a reason where "dilbert is wrong"

Really, no one ever needs to look. :

Then why waste hundreds of posts arguing??

Late to this thread and just skimming. I really wonder this myself. I can only surmise it's that persistence will finally eliminate the "problem". With my crystal ball I'll venture that it won't.

I might add that for the most part I don't enjoy reading what Dilbert posts and so I just skip his comments, consistently. I have no animosity towards anyone on CR including Dilbert but I now ignore him. I'm sure Dilbert doesn't mind if I ignore him and he's free to ignore me. Win-win.

unfocused, hit the nail on the head with his thorough assessment IMHO.

I vote against pointless bickering but sometimes it's hard to control one's self, especially when the topic is gear that competes with Canon! OTOH, sometimes the bickering (excluding pointless putdowns) can be pretty humourous!!

Jack