The Canon EOS “R7” has been pushed to Q4 of 2022

Kit.

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the R6 is the mirrorless 6D series camera.
I don't see how. Have you seen dual card slots in a 6D series camera? 12 fps mechanical shutter? 1/250s X-sync?

Or maybe a joystick?
 
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I don't see how. Have you seen dual card slots in a 6D series camera? 12 fps mechanical shutter? 1/250s X-sync?

Or maybe a joystick?
Let me explain it real simple like...The 5 series DSLRs were higher end more expensive FF cameras. The 6 Series DSLRs were the lower priced, lower spec'ed (but still in the $2000 range) FF cameras. Now, in mirrorless, the R5 is the higher end, more expensive FF camera. The R6 is the lower priced, lower spec'ed (but still in the $2000 range) FF camera. See how easy! That's why they continued using the numbers 5 and 6. To make it simple to understand, even for forum dwellers.
 
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Kit.

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Let me explain it real simple like...The 5 series DSLRs were higher end more expensive FF cameras. The 6 Series DSLRs were the lower priced, lower spec'ed (but still in the $2000 range) FF cameras.
Simple - and wrong. 5D series started with 5D and 5DII, and only then got split into (higher than 5DII) 5DIII and (lower than 5DII) 6D.

Now, in mirrorless, the R5 is the higher end, more expensive FF camera. The R6 is the lower priced, lower spec'ed (but still in the $2000 range) FF camera. See how easy!
Wrong again. We have R5, R6, R, and RP. R was positioned between 5DIV and 6DII, R6 is higher-spec'ed than R in everything but resolution, and Canon has already promised a FF camera that would be a lower tier than RP. All this makes your SLR lineup analogy irrelevant.

That's why they continued using the numbers 5 and 6. To make it simple to understand, even for forum dwellers.
They may continue to use whatever numbers they want, but it doesn't make the R6 "the mirrorless 6D series camera".
 
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neuroanatomist

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They may continue to use whatever numbers they want, but it doesn't make the R6 "the mirrorless 6D series camera".
Careful. I suggested that the R7 might not be a ‘mirrorless 7D’ and some people became rather upset.
 

Czardoom

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Simple - and wrong. 5D series started with 5D and 5DII, and only then got split into (higher than 5DII) 5DIII and (lower than 5DII) 6D.


Wrong again. We have R5, R6, R, and RP. R was positioned between 5DIV and 6DII, R6 is higher-spec'ed than R in everything but resolution, and Canon has already promised a FF camera that would be a lower tier than RP. All this makes your SLR lineup analogy irrelevant.


They may continue to use whatever numbers they want, but it doesn't make the R6 "the mirrorless 6D series camera".
If you believe that the specs dictate the numbering, so be it. Pretty much everyone else understands the logic of Canon's numbering scheme when it comes to "5" and "6". But if you have to be "Right" - I guess there is no arguing with you. It just seems like an UNBELIEVABLE coincidence that Canon decided to use the numbers 5 and 6 for both of their new RF FF cameras when they were released, when their DSLRs in roughly the same price bracket were also numbered 5 and 6! Wow! How silly of me to think there might be a logical, reasonable explanation!
 
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Kit.

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If you believe that the specs dictate the numbering, so be it. Pretty much everyone else understands the logic of Canon's numbering scheme when it comes to "5" and "6". But if you have to be "Right" - I guess there is no arguing with you. It just seems like an UNBELIEVABLE coincidence that Canon decided to use the numbers 5 and 6 for both of their new RF FF cameras when they were released, when their DSLRs in roughly the same price bracket were also numbered 5 and 6! Wow! How silly of me to think there might be a logical, reasonable explanation!
What makes you so emotional about the simple observation that R6 is not an 6D series equivalent, but a higher-tier camera?
 

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What makes you so emotional about the simple observation that R6 is not an 6D series equivalent, but a higher-tier camera?
My opinion:

Canon naming conventions seem to be based on *several* criteria including price range, specification, build quality and target users. Cameras are constantly evolving and it's quite obvious that specifications will become more advanced with each successive model within a numerical designation, hence R5 is far more advanced than 5DS, even though they use the same numerical designation, and are/were the "high megapixel flagships" of their eras.

1D series have always been the pro battleships and the most expensive. Same will apply to "R1" which will be roughly equivalent to Nikon Z9.

5D series have always been "economy pro" and "hi-end serious amateur" FF cameras, as is the case with R5.

6D series have always been "affordable mid-range FF", as is the case with R6.

7D series have always been "economy pro" and "hi-end amateur" APS-C cameras, so logically the same will apply to the "R7". if it actually exists and uses that designation.

R3 is clearly an intermediate model between R5 and "R1", and uses the "3" designation because it uses "eye-control AF point selection", just like the EOS 3.

The bottom of range FF models will most likely be single digit "R8" and/or "R9"

As for the expected "mirrorless Rebels", my guess is that they will be called "R10" (double digits for budget APS-C)
 
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Kit.

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My opinion:

Canon naming conventions seem to be based on *several* criteria including price range, specification, build quality and target users. Cameras are constantly evolving and it's quite obvious that specifications will become more advanced with each successive model within a numerical designation, hence R5 is far more advanced than 5DS, even though they use the same numerical designation, and are/were the "high megapixel flagships" of their eras.
My opinion:

Canon's naming "conventions" can be given some rationalization in hindsight, but are actually unpredictable. For example, no one outside Canon would predict splitting the 5D series into two after 5DII, nor would expect Canon to come up with RP (and then not with RS, but with R5) either.

5D series have always been "economy pro" and "hi-end serious amateur" FF cameras, as is the case with R5.
Actually, the proverbial "5-series" started with EOS 10 (EOS S in the U.S.) in 1991. Then it became EOS 5, then EOS 3.

EOS 5, released in 1992, already had the eye control AF.

6D series have always been "affordable mid-range FF", as is the case with R6.
"6D" series was a lower-tier spin-off of the "5-series" after the 5DII. Only two models of the 6D series have been made.

The closest positioning of the R6 would actually be a continuation of "pre-5DIII" 5D series. Similar price to 5DII, similar ergonomics, similar build quality.

7D series have always been "economy pro" and "hi-end amateur" APS-C cameras, so logically the same will apply to the "R7". if it actually exists and uses that designation.
"7D series" has a history of having only two models and being the slowest updating Canon series ever. EOS 7D was released in 2009, EOS 7DII was released in 2014.

R3 is clearly an intermediate model between R5 and "R1", and uses the "3" designation because it uses "eye-control AF point selection", just like the EOS 3.
Actually, the closest analogy to EOS 3 in Canon's digital lineup would be EOS 5DIII. EOS R3 is a completely different beast.

The bottom of range FF models will most likely be single digit "R8" and/or "R9"

As for the expected "mirrorless Rebels", my guess is that they will be called "R10" (double digits for budget APS-C)
Canon's Rebel models traditionally have 3-digit and 4-digit model numbers.
 
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