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The 180 is a great macro lens as it means you get a full shot without disturbing the wildlife - even more so with a 1.4 on it ....
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Edwin Herdman said:The TS-E 17mm does nice "close up" shots, but the perspective of close objects is hard to control (i.e. it appears distorted). The TS-E 90mm does nice near-macro stuff, too, but I wouldn't count out a real macro lens for that. On the macro side...I am considering one of the Sigma 180mm macros, simply because it's half price of the Canon and newer too.
Edwin Herdman said:Don't mind me. Others (including myself) have pointed out the Live View function as a modern ground glass, but this is just a case of myself and the kind Dr. going around (in this case, because again he insisted on saying something indefensible and insulting, apparently as a kind of joke, but misleading if read as actual advice).torger said:Edwin Herdman said:Using Live View is a chore, and it is a necessary chore if you want to get the best possible sharpness. It has nothing to do with laziness, and using the VF when you should be using Live View only means you're stubborn and stupid. There is nothing to be learned from failing to explore the uses of Live View.
While I would not express myself as drastic
Indeed. The 17mm is my ONLY wide-angle (the TS 35mm will hopefully be joining it soon, though) and it performs quite well! Although, given the price and current 5D Mark II prices, you'd have something of a personal deficit by the time you bought one - whereas the TS-E 90mm could be bought with some cash differential (more than half the price, actually) of a 5D Mark II, so that's worth considering.Viggo said:I use the TS-E 17mm, and it's by far my favorite wideangle, I used to have the 14 II, but the converging lines limited it soo much for me.
I like the 17mm best when I can put it right up next to something (although this is a style of photograph I find more challenging to get right, since the wide-angle perspective - even on APS-C - doesn't really match my compositional eye well, but occasionally I can pull it off nicely).