We Have Received Our EF 11-24mm f/4L

Re: We Have Received Our EF 11-24mm f/4L [CR3]

The Flasher said:
So glad this lens finally exists. I had a shoot this morning, a very tight bathroom interior, where again (in architecture I run into this often) 14mm was not enough. Forget stitching, I realize that is always an option, but actually it isn't. Time vs money, if client won't pay for premium post processing, no point wasting time. The 11mm would have done it.

I've been waiting for this piece of glass since it was first rumoured. Pulling the trigger on Monday!

Flasher I will be interested in seeing your results in small bathrooms,bedrooms,etc. I shoot homes and use a 16-35 so I can relate.
 
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wtlloyd said:
I just don't get the excitement over this as a landscape lens. Interiors, sure. Teeny tiny mountains in a flat wide vista, nope.


So you realize you can walk closer to those mountains right? Or even up them. Sort of an extreme 'zoom with your feet'. It's good exercise too, especially caring 30lb of camera gear ;)

I know what you mean though. I'm an UWA 'freak', and even use my FE for landscapes (not all landscapes have to have distant mountains), but I wonder if I really need/want an 11mm. The FE is nice because it is so small and light I can just throw it in for the occasional time I do want to try something that wide.

Also people, get over worrying about scratching the front element. I've never seen anyone scratch the TS-E 17 (except me, but that's another story) and mine got bumped against metal railings, pecked by a bird and all sorts without a scratch. Those front elements are pretty tough. And even if it does get a small nick, it's going to have zero affect on anything - it will just be a bit of the coating. Buy it, use it, don't obsess over the bulging front element.
 
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Pookie said:
Tinky said:
Fantastic stuff.

You'll love Skye, it is universally beautiful, Harris & Lewis are more of an acquired taste, quite bleak in some ways, very tough life especially in the hamlets along the Atlantic side.

If you have time try and get to the 3 Chimneys on Skye, world class fine dining.

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When grabbing links from Flickr you need to use BBCodes...

I'll try and do that next time. If CrGuy or anybody else is so moved then the hyperlinks still actually work.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
We have received our Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L and we’re over the moon about it.</p>
<div id="attachment_19071" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/1124600.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19071" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/1124600-575x560.jpg" alt="EF 11-24 f/4L dwarfs the EF 600 f/4L IS...... Yes, it's that big." width="575" height="560" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">EF 11-24 f/4L dwarfs the EF 600 f/4L IS…… Yes, it’s that big.</p></div>
<p>I’m heading out this weekend for some winter landscapes to try the lens out. I’ll also be using it at the end of March for 10 days shooting the Isles of Skye, Lewis & Harris in Scotland. After I’ve completed that photo tour, I should have a good amount of images and field work for a review.</p>
<p>I’ve shot 12mm on Leica before, but I’m hoping this goes a lot better than that experiment did.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Good luck on your trip to Skye and Harris, Sky is a wonderful place, was just chatting about it on Facebook. Niest Point, Fairy Pools, Sligachan and Elgol all great places to shoot. I read last week Midgies are out even now though! Harris is on my to do list this year.
 
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Re: We Have Received Our EF 11-24mm f/4L [CR3]

I might just sell my 16-35mm II and 8-15mm fisheye and get this instead. I rarely use the 16-35mm wide open because its too soft. But I will wait for the price to drop or import deals. I don't want to spend more than $2500 for this lens.
 
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Using the 11-24

After a week's use, I've written up an initial review - more about using such a lens, than MTF charts ;-)

Hope it's of some interest

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_ef11-24f4l.html

Here's a shot at 11mm I took yesterday at Southwell Minster, with its 12th century towers (great place if you've not seen it)
 

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Re: Using the 11-24

keithcooper said:
After a week's use, I've written up an initial review - more about using such a lens, than MTF charts ;-)

Hope it's of some interest

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_ef11-24f4l.html

Here's a shot at 11mm I took yesterday at Southwell Minster, with its 12th century towers (great place if you've not seen it)

Thanks for the link Keith,

I'd like to ask a question I know you will be familiar with, how does the 11-24 slot in with your use of the 8-15 fisheye and fisheye hemi? I shoot some real estate and for small bathrooms and built in closets there is no substitute for focal length, but I use the Canon 15mm prime fisheye and fisheye hemi and wonder how much 'better' the new 11-24 is, mainly because my defished images are rarely more than brochure fillers and small web jpegs.

I don't want to talk myself out of this new very cool lens, but wonder about the actual deliverables compared to my current >ultrawide performance which I always found noticeably better than the couple of 14mm MkII I used, much wider too.
 
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privatebydesign said:
keithcooper said:
After a week's use, I've written up an initial review - more about using such a lens, than MTF charts ;-)

Hope it's of some interest

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_ef11-24f4l.html

Here's a shot at 11mm I took yesterday at Southwell Minster, with its 12th century towers (great place if you've not seen it)

Thanks for the link Keith,

I'd like to ask a question I know you will be familiar with, how does the 11-24 slot in with your use of the 8-15 fisheye and fisheye hemi? I shoot some real estate and for small bathrooms and built in closets there is no substitute for focal length, but I use the Canon 15mm prime fisheye and fisheye hemi and wonder how much 'better' the new 11-24 is, mainly because my defished images are rarely more than brochure fillers and small web jpegs.

I don't want to talk myself out of this new very cool lens, but wonder about the actual deliverables compared to my current >ultrawide performance which I always found noticeably better than the couple of 14mm MkII I used, much wider too.

Ah bathrooms...

Depending on the size and layout I'd still be taking my 8-15 with me ;-)

Such spaces are so difficult to reproduce in a meaningful way that I'd want as many options as possible.

The 11-24 is so good that the rectilinear distortion of such a wide angle could look very wrong. What I've not tested with this lens is using FE Hemi on an 11mm lens where I've deliberately added some barrel distortion (see the review of FEH on my site for an example with my old 16-35) There is also DxO's Viewpoint to try.
 
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Re: Using the 11-24

keithcooper said:
After a week's use, I've written up an initial review - more about using such a lens, than MTF charts ;-)

Hope it's of some interest

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_ef11-24f4l.html

Here's a shot at 11mm I took yesterday at Southwell Minster, with its 12th century towers (great place if you've not seen it)

Thanks for that most enjoyable "non-technical" review. I'll be in "new toy" mode for a long time trying to learn what works. Never having been wider than 24, this is a real eye opener!

Jack

Jack
 
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Re: Using the 11-24

keithcooper said:
privatebydesign said:
keithcooper said:
After a week's use, I've written up an initial review - more about using such a lens, than MTF charts ;-)

Hope it's of some interest

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_ef11-24f4l.html

Here's a shot at 11mm I took yesterday at Southwell Minster, with its 12th century towers (great place if you've not seen it)

Thanks for the link Keith,

I'd like to ask a question I know you will be familiar with, how does the 11-24 slot in with your use of the 8-15 fisheye and fisheye hemi? I shoot some real estate and for small bathrooms and built in closets there is no substitute for focal length, but I use the Canon 15mm prime fisheye and fisheye hemi and wonder how much 'better' the new 11-24 is, mainly because my defished images are rarely more than brochure fillers and small web jpegs.

I don't want to talk myself out of this new very cool lens, but wonder about the actual deliverables compared to my current >ultrawide performance which I always found noticeably better than the couple of 14mm MkII I used, much wider too.

Ah bathrooms...

Depending on the size and layout I'd still be taking my 8-15 with me ;-)

Such spaces are so difficult to reproduce in a meaningful way that I'd want as many options as possible.

The 11-24 is so good that the rectilinear distortion of such a wide angle could look very wrong. What I've not tested with this lens is using FE Hemi on an 11mm lens where I've deliberately added some barrel distortion (see the review of FEH on my site for an example with my old 16-35) There is also DxO's Viewpoint to try.

Thanks for that, I suspected as much after seeing the first results to come in from the 11-24, fine though it obviously is that projection distortion is still going to hurt sometimes especially with objects very close to the lens, as they often are in bathrooms. I read your FEH review a long time ago, indeed I think that played a part in me purchasing it originally, and with the various tricks available like canvas size and orientation and, like your example, adding distortion before applying and the fact you can do the correction several times on the same image make it a much more powerful tool than the one button click it would initially have you think.
 
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keithcooper said:
The 11-24 is so good that the rectilinear distortion of such a wide angle could look very wrong. What I've not tested with this lens is using FE Hemi on an 11mm lens where I've deliberately added some barrel distortion (see the review of FEH on my site for an example with my old 16-35) There is also DxO's Viewpoint to try.

I shoot a lot (I mean a LOT!) with my Sigma 15mm fisheye on full-frame. It's vertical field of view is about the equivalent of the vertical field of view of an 11mm rectilinear. It's horizontal field of view is much wider.

Lightroom has a profile for the 15mm fisheye. If you select it, it corrects vignetting and distortion, effectively making it an 11mm rectilinear lens. I find virtually no use for that.

However, there's a really cool feature that the distortion correction has a slider. It goes from 0 to 200, with 100 the default if the profile is active. I've recently been playing with that slider a lot, and even going back to many old pictures and playing with it.

What I've found is that I almost never like 0 and I NEVER* like 100 (rectilinear). I usually settle somewhere between 20 and 50 with an occasional 70.

* There is one case where I like 100 - where I crop to 14mm equivalent rectilinear or greater.

What I'm saying is that the idea of adding something like barrel distortion, fisheye projection or what Fisheye Hemi does (which can also be done in Hugin) may well improve many shots taken below 14mm on the 11-24.
 
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