Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]

[hillelb]

Please, please something like a 20 mm, f1.4 (not >20 mm, not > f2)

 

[lintoni]

I think that 50mp sensors are a long long way from being the norm, they are at best either an item that affluent enthusiasts will lap up just to have the latest offering, or a niche camera for professionals, I doubt that many pro’s will be running out to buy one unless their particular area demands the benefits of having files this size. Which brings me back on topic, Canon won’t be in any hurry to produce a whole range of lenses for this sensor size, so deliberating on the current L glass IQ and how it will look at 50mp doesn’t really transfer across to what actual L lenses are coming soon, that’s just my thoughts on it. Still hoping for a long ranger for wildlife with a maximum price tag of around $3,000.

Whilst I'm in no rush to get a 50mp body, they will become much more the norm in the future, and given that a good lens design could easily have a production life of 10+ years, Canon will be designing and producing lenses that are able to bring the best out of 50 (and higher) mp bodies.

 

[Crosswind]

@lintoni: so by 10+ years you mean pretty soon I guess. Look at how much time has passed since the 50 L 1.2 or the 35 one has been announced. I don't think that Canon was creating cupcakes in the meantime. 50 mp sensor 5DS also takes a very long time to develop. They were also developing some L glass along with the body for sure... just that the production of new lenses has started much earlier. At least that's what I guess.

So I'm expecting to see either a 50 L or 35 L coming very soon. Well... I'm more for the 50 L y'know

 

[lintoni]

@lintoni: so by 10+ years you mean pretty soon I guess. Look at how much time has passed since the 50 L 1.2 or the 35 one has been announced. I don't think that Canon was creating cupcakes in the meantime. 50 mp sensor 5DS also takes a very long time to develop. They were also developing some L glass along with the body for sure... just that the production of new lenses has started much earlier. At least that's what I guess.

So I'm expecting to see either a 50 L or 35 L coming very soon. Well... I'm more for the 50 L y'know

That strikes me as the sensible way to do things - get some great lenses out before the high mp bodies. They showed off a 120mp sensor 5 years ago, so they knew top notch lenses were essential for the future.

As to what the new prime will be, who knows? I guess we could all tell Canon that a x mm lens is the absolute priority!

 

[gaziola]

Am i the only guy in the world who wants to see canon release a 28mm f1.4???????

 

[AshtonNekolah]

Unfortunately, Canon's recent releases are either blah optics (ex...24mm, 28mm or 40mm 2.8) or OVER PRICED excellent optics but slow (11-24mm f4, 16-35 f4).

Why can't Canon innovate and produce quality optics for decent prices (Sigma, Tamron, heck even Rokinon with their manual focus lenses at cheap prices).

Either way, Canon is spitting out products but it seems like it is all lack luster stuff (with exception of the 7DMkII).

I get more excited to see what Sony and Nikon are doing with their full frames, and wondering when Canon will catch up.

You mention the EF 16-35/4L IS. This super sharp lens is one of my favourites and is not over priced at all! Slow? Not at all! It is very sharp even wide open and can therefore be used at f4. This is not the case with the old EF 17-40/4L and 16-35/2,8L which both has to be stepped down to f8 to give decent results with a full format sensor.
The new 16-35/4L IS is even sharp enough for the new 50Mpix sensor of the 5Ds which I have per ordered. And with a 50Mpix sensor IS becomes important, especially if you want sharp landscapes photos without using a tripod.

I just sold a Nikon D810 and a Nikkor AF-S 14-24/2,8 lens. Why? The Nikkor lens was very heavy, expensive and most important: it was not possible to use filters. The EF 16-35/4L IS is as sharp, cheaper and a much better choice.

Even you can afford it if you do like me: just reduce the number of lenses from 6 cheap ones to 2 good ones....

Yeah, I'm a father of 2 with a stay at home wife...anything over 1K is overpriced to me. If Sigma is producing excellent lenses, most of which are <1K, I would suspect Canon can compete. IF I was going to shell out the cash for the EF 16-35, I would expect a f/2.8. Who needs IS on a tripod shooting landscape??

IS is a add-on, it doesn't take away from a lens where as your not suppose to use a tripod, it adds more to your shooting needs. I never liked IS on a lens that i will be using a tripod but had to change that view as I own lenses that has IS and it gives you to freedom to shoot when light falls. and with today high ISO's IS is a very welcome thing. I look at IS stops the same I would with a bright lens, this is how i read it in my own way, f4 IS 3 stops will give me the same as a lens f2 or 1.8 since i can get away with slower shutter speeds it balances out to the missing stops in the focal lenght. this works very well for me. in the night dark on my 100mm hybird 4 stops I can shoot at 30s without any blur at all i would say that's pretty dam good with a 100mm focal length at ISO 800-1000 I do not have to cross that far with almost no grain at all. try doing that with without IS, good luck with that.

 

[ahsanford]

Am i the only guy in the world who wants to see canon release a 28mm f1.4???????

Most likely. Canon has nailed down that the non-T/S L primes will be 14 / 24 / 35 / 50 and so on. Canon does offer one EF 20mm and two 28mm primes (f/1.8 and f/2.8 IS), but they are much less popular.

I love my 28 f/2.8 IS but I understand why Canon has no 1.4 or L option in that length: there's little the 28mm can uniquely do that the 24L or 35L could not.

28mm at f/1.4 is a weird combo that I've never heard requested before. What would you use that for? Street? Environmental portraiture? Surely not astro, right? You'd use the 24 f/1.4 for that, right? Just curious.

- A

 

[Crosswind]

That strikes me as the sensible way to do things - get some great lenses out before the high mp bodies. They showed off a 120mp sensor 5 years ago, so they knew top notch lenses were essential for the future.

*lol* true that... so the 5DSr is just the beginning of the cumming pixelgasm I guess

28mm at f/1.4 is a weird combo that I've never heard requested before. What would you use that for? Street? Environmental portraiture? Surely not astro, right? You'd use the 24 f/1.4 for that, right? Just curious.

Even if I'm not the person you've asked - I can tell you that 28mm f/1.4 is pretty good for landscape astrophotography. One example would be to shoot multi-row astro panoramas. I use 35mm for that matter to further emphasise the milky way. 50mm f/1.8 or faster would also be very great, generally, not just for astro. The wider ones, like a fast 14 or 24mm... are also great options but they are sometimes too dramatic in effect. You have to decide which focal lenght is best to realize your idea.

It's even possible to make astonishing astro-landscape pictures with a 100mm lens (f/2.8 or faster)... all without tracking... and not more than ISO 6400. We can select the sky in post and then align the stars with photoshop. After that you'd apply a median filter to get a nearly noise-free image, without blurring the landscape while having tack sharp stars... and the milky way Didn't Canon register some trademark for such a technique? I think, some day, we can do this process in-camera... to some extent.

Well... back to topic; it's not a question of focal lenght i.m.o. There are no rules. I'd also be happy about a fast 28 with low coma in the corners (which would be important at night). Though I don't think that this'll happen anytime soon ???

For this year, my bet is on either a 35 or 50 L.

 

[ahsanford]

IS is a add-on, it doesn't take away from a lens where as your not suppose to use a tripod, it adds more to your shooting needs. I never liked IS on a lens that i will be using a tripod but had to change that view as I own lenses that has IS and it gives you to freedom to shoot when light falls. and with today high ISO's IS is a very welcome thing. I look at IS stops the same I would with a bright lens, this is how i read it in my own way, f4 IS 3 stops will give me the same as a lens f2 or 1.8 since i can get away with slower shutter speeds it balances out to the missing stops in the focal lenght. this works very well for me. in the night dark on my 100mm hybird 4 stops I can shoot at 30s without any blur at all i would say that's pretty dam good with a 100mm focal length at ISO 800-1000 I do not have to cross that far with almost no grain at all. try doing that with without IS, good luck with that.

Yep. More practically for what I shoot -- handheld available light, even when that light isn't great -- IS lets me hold a longer shutter and keep the ISO from skyrocketing. That's why IS helps and I will use it on every focal length that I can. For that very reason, I often prefer f/2.8 with IS over f/1.4 without it. It's 'virtually' quicker, provided your subject isn't moving.

But if you have a moving subject in poor light, you use some combination of faster glass and higher ISO, or you break down and use one of those speedlite thingies I've heard so much about.

- A

 

[gaziola]

On the subject of the 28mm f1.4. Certainly for me (press/street photography) 28mm is my favoured focal length (along with 135mm). I'd love to see canon produce a 28mm f1.4 L lens. The f2.8 is usm is a great little lens but just doesn't quite cut it for image quality compared to the equivalent 24mm and 35mm f1.4 Ls. Nikkon used to make a 28mm f1.4. (Check out Pep Bonnet) I find 24mm a tad wide and 35mm a tad tight for what i do..........blah blah

 

[martti]

I haven't seen anybody suggest a 55mm f/1.2 so that would be my proposition. There used to be a FD lense of those specifications long time ago. It seems to have gotten a new life in the mirrorless community.

Slightly longer than the 50mm to give...a different number because in actual use you would probably not see any difference.

In the meantime, I will probably get the 50mm L...I already found one second hand, now only to find the right price. Not that I'd need it, the old f/1.4 is doing just fine despite its age. But it looks old.

 

[Conquistador]

Maybe it's going to be a 200MM Macro lens with an image stabiliser?