We Have Received Our EF 11-24mm f/4L

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Lee Jay said:
Having shot thousands and thousands of shots this wide and wider, I'll be interested to see if someone comes up with some rational framing for a lens this wide in rectilinear projection. My experience is that rectilinear projection is just too weird and too stretched in the corners wider than about 14mm equivalent or so.

My advice to owners is to watch your rotataion carefully and to keep the center focus point on the horizon even if the horizon is not visible in the shot.

Agree, but someone will figure it out eventually. Mountainous coastlines with strong foreground elements could work. But everything in the frame must be amorphous, somewhat unfamiliar, and organic. That way any weird wide FOV stretching won't look as alien as it would on faces, trees, houses, etc.

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
Lee Jay said:
Having shot thousands and thousands of shots this wide and wider, I'll be interested to see if someone comes up with some rational framing for a lens this wide in rectilinear projection. My experience is that rectilinear projection is just too weird and too stretched in the corners wider than about 14mm equivalent or so.

My advice to owners is to watch your rotataion carefully and to keep the center focus point on the horizon even if the horizon is not visible in the shot.

Agree, but someone will figure it out eventually. Mountainous coastlines with strong foreground elements could work. But everything in the frame must be amorphous, somewhat unfamiliar, and organic. That way any weird wide FOV stretching won't look as alien as it would on faces, trees, houses, etc.

- A

People can shoot whatever they want with it, it is theirs after all. So what if you two don't find them pleasing aesthetically or compositionally, it is none of your business and offering unsolicited "advice" when you don't have the context of their shooting is extremely condescending.

Even the most modest skateboarders, free runners, bmx'ers etc are going to look very cool with this lens.
 
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privatebydesign said:
It is interesting, I have used two different 14mm MkII's and hated both of them, they were utter garbage in the corners and I actually got better results by defishing the 15mm.

I was very disappointed to here early reviews say things like 'it is as good as my 14mm in the corners' which for me was not good enough to bother with. But now we have tests like this http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=280&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=977&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0 I am much more interested again!

Your link was to the 14mm version 1. the Mark II is much better in the corners and comparable to the new 11-24mm
 
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iMagic said:
privatebydesign said:
It is interesting, I have used two different 14mm MkII's and hated both of them, they were utter garbage in the corners and I actually got better results by defishing the 15mm.

I was very disappointed to here early reviews say things like 'it is as good as my 14mm in the corners' which for me was not good enough to bother with. But now we have tests like this http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=280&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=977&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0 I am much more interested again!
Your link was to the 14mm version 1. the Mark II is much better in the corners and comparable to the new 11-24mm
This is probably the best link to use - both at 14mm & f/4:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=454&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=977&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0
 
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privatebydesign said:
ahsanford said:
Lee Jay said:
Having shot thousands and thousands of shots this wide and wider, I'll be interested to see if someone comes up with some rational framing for a lens this wide in rectilinear projection. My experience is that rectilinear projection is just too weird and too stretched in the corners wider than about 14mm equivalent or so.

My advice to owners is to watch your rotataion carefully and to keep the center focus point on the horizon even if the horizon is not visible in the shot.

Agree, but someone will figure it out eventually. Mountainous coastlines with strong foreground elements could work. But everything in the frame must be amorphous, somewhat unfamiliar, and organic. That way any weird wide FOV stretching won't look as alien as it would on faces, trees, houses, etc.

- A

People can shoot whatever they want with it, it is theirs after all. So what if you two don't find them pleasing aesthetically or compositionally, it is none of your business and offering unsolicited "advice" when you don't have the context of their shooting is extremely condescending.

Even the most modest skateboarders, free runners, bmx'ers etc are going to look very cool with this lens.

Really?

I'm not saying it's going to take poor images or that there are only certain images you should take with it -- I'm legitimately speculating how someone might use this unique FL well, and Lee Jay looks like he was offering some tips based on his/her past experience.

Both were respectfully offered in a discussion forum -- no one's telling anyone how to raise their kids. :P

Let's get back to talking about this sweet piece of kit!

- A
 
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Hannes said:
KeithBreazeal said:
I heard it's a really awesome performer. It will be one of those lenses that keeps your camera bag from blowing away- like my 14mm Rokinon. Invest in a pair of cushions for the shoes. If it is as heavy as the Tokina 16-28mm f2.8, get a pack mule.

It's 200g heavier than the tokina

Holy crap! You'll need a full time massage therapist.
 
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Having owned the 14L II, 16-35 f/2.8 II, 17-40 and recently the 16-35 f/4 IS... The 11-24mm is far better than the old generation of lenses and superior to the 14L II for sure in the edges/corners. The 16-35 f/4 IS and 11-24mm are such great lenses center to edge of frame.

Here are three examples at 11mm... The third shot was 11mm at f/4 followed by a right top corner crop of that image. Very good performance.

Christmas Story House by invertalon, on Flickr

Cleveland - 11mm by invertalon, on Flickr

11-24mm 11mm by invertalon, on Flickr

11mm top right crop f4 by invertalon, on Flickr
 
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KeithBreazeal said:
Hannes said:
KeithBreazeal said:
I heard it's a really awesome performer. It will be one of those lenses that keeps your camera bag from blowing away- like my 14mm Rokinon. Invest in a pair of cushions for the shoes. If it is as heavy as the Tokina 16-28mm f2.8, get a pack mule.

It's 200g heavier than the tokina

Holy crap! You'll need a full time massage therapist.
It could be worse - the EF 1200 f/5.6L USM, according to Steve Winter:

“When I told my friend Bill Frakes, the Sports Illustrated photographer, about the snow leopard story he suggested that I check out a ‘unique’ Canon lens that he had used successfully - the EF1200mm f/5.6L USM. Very few of these were made and it is a spectacular lens. I contacted Canon Professional Services in Europe - people I had gotten to know at Photokina - and they located one and put it at our disposal.” The lens is the largest and heaviest that Canon makes, in fact the behemoth travelled the final leg of the journey to Steve’s 13,000 feet base camp on the back of its very own pack horse."

Source: Steve Winter: A natural talent

Invertalon - cool shots! I can't wait to finally get out with mine this weekend...
 
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So glad this lens finally exists. I had a shoot this morning, a very tight bathroom interior, where again (in architecture I run into this often) 14mm was not enough. Forget stitching, I realize that is always an option, but actually it isn't. Time vs money, if client won't pay for premium post processing, no point wasting time. The 11mm would have done it.

I've been waiting for this piece of glass since it was first rumoured. Pulling the trigger on Monday!
 
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Lots of advice, comments and even some perverted feather ruffling humour or is it humor. Keep it light hearted! Anyway I love it. I'm going to shoot everything under the sun until I learn how to use it or someone shoots me! ;)

And, I tell you it isn't heavy if you're used to shooting telephotos.

Got a rude awakening when I tried to shoot Pichu, my African Grey. He lunged his beak into the lens and nearly gave me a heart attack. :) Distance is really hard to judge initially.

Jack
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Lots of advice, comments and even some perverted feather ruffling humour or is it humor. Keep it light hearted! Anyway I love it. I'm going to shoot everything under the sun until I learn how to use it or someone shoots me! ;)

And, I tell you it isn't heavy if you're used to shooting telephotos.

Got a rude awakening when I tried to shoot Pichu, my African Grey. He lunged his beak into the lens and nearly gave me a heart attack. :) Distance is really hard to judge initially.

Jack

Had a similar experience shooting a cat with the 8-15L. Both need a warning sticker like convex mirrors - "Objects are closer than they appear".
 
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The Flasher said:
So glad this lens finally exists. I had a shoot this morning, a very tight bathroom interior, where again (in architecture I run into this often) 14mm was not enough. Forget stitching, I realize that is always an option, but actually it isn't. Time vs money, if client won't pay for premium post processing, no point wasting time. The 11mm would have done it.

I've been waiting for this piece of glass since it was first rumoured. Pulling the trigger on Monday!

You might also consider the Samyang 12mm fisheye + the PS Fisheye-Hemi plugin.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
We have received our Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L and we’re over the moon about it.</p>
<div id="attachment_19071" style="width: 585px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/1124600.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19071" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/1124600-575x560.jpg" alt="EF 11-24 f/4L dwarfs the EF 600 f/4L IS...... Yes, it's that big." width="575" height="560" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">EF 11-24 f/4L dwarfs the EF 600 f/4L IS…… Yes, it’s that big.</p></div>
<p>I’m heading out this weekend for some winter landscapes to try the lens out. I’ll also be using it at the end of March for 10 days shooting the Isles of Skye, Lewis & Harris in Scotland. After I’ve completed that photo tour, I should have a good amount of images and field work for a review.</p>
<p>I’ve shot 12mm on Leica before, but I’m hoping this goes a lot better than that experiment did.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Is a cart to carry it around included in the price?
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Nope, you don't even get a nice case like the 70-200 2.8 II. This kind of irritates me but it's not a big deal, maybe it was to keep the steep price from getting steeper.

Jack

I've never dealt with a lens with an integral hood. I'm curious, will the front element be difficult to clean as a result?

- A
 
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The hood is not much of a hood, in fact it gives one an uneasy feeling knowing how exposed the glass is, so I don't see cleaning as an issue.

In general regarding this lens. This lens is very expensive, myself included, but I'm older and haven't made many irrational purchases in my lifetime so this is one of those few times. I know it leaves a lot of folks disappointed but we live with our modest incomes knowing that expensive toys don't really make for happiness.

I've been thrilled with my 6D while my friend who purchased more or less in line with me got a 1DX and I've lived with that. In this context I see quite a bit of "sour grapes" regarding the new lens. It's pointless to say 11mm is this or that bad. It may be inappropriate in various circumstances but hey, Canon has given us a ZOOM with everything up to 24mm and that in my books makes this a very appropriate lens! ;) Two years ago I told my wife that a perfect fit would be 14-24 so I was waiting and now 11 is even better. Hats off to Canon.

Jack
 
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Re: We Have Received Our EF 11-24mm f/4L [CR3]

mine just came in :D

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Fantastic stuff.

You'll love Skye, it is universally beautiful, Harris & Lewis are more of an acquired taste, quite bleak in some ways, very tough life especially in the hamlets along the Atlantic side.

If you have time try and get to the 3 Chimneys on Skye, world class fine dining.

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Tinky said:
Fantastic stuff.

You'll love Skye, it is universally beautiful, Harris & Lewis are more of an acquired taste, quite bleak in some ways, very tough life especially in the hamlets along the Atlantic side.

If you have time try and get to the 3 Chimneys on Skye, world class fine dining.

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When grabbing links from Flickr you need to use BBCodes...
 
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