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Yeah, that's what Sony is known for...a great lens selection and stellar battery life.
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We were wrong, all of your Canon mirrorless dreams are likely coming true soon
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Yeah, that's what Sony is known for...a great lens selection and stellar battery life.
Right. Because all EF lenses will turn to dust when a thin mount + adaptor is released. Poof.
If Canon leads with thin, and I think they will, they need to put out a proper public service announcement sort of video showing how EF lenses will perform as they did before (under DPAF).
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Canon has designed cameras that were aesthetically pleasing:
This one was ergonomically displeasing.
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If I look at the pricing I am not shure Canon should learn everything from Sony / Nikon - I am glad that the M50 was just above 500 EUR/$.
If you turn in ECO mode it is good for 300 shots over one week with some deleting / fiddling in the menu before the battery shows 50% (which maybe is 30%) so maybe comparable with Sony battery stamina.
With the lens selection you are right: Native EF-M primes are only available in homeopathic doses and around a - for me - not so pleasing focal length range (22-28-32) but ... with the EF2EF-M adapter I have access to all the lenses I bought in the last 13 years and they work without any flaws (especially EF-S 60 macro, EF 40, EF 70-200 4.0 L IS, EF 400 5.6, EF-S 10-22).
The Canon ecosystem is great in terms of compatibility and reliability and this comes from a very critical user!
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Thank you for sharing. There seems to be only a limited amount of adaptor performance reviews out there.
Occasionally you see videos like this:
But that's not that much to go on. "It looks good. Cool."
Will someone please investigate and write up the following comparison?
- M5 / M6 vs. a relatively similarly sensored EF-S camera that has DPAF
- Pick a few EF or EF-S lenses: mix up STM vs. USM, short vs. long FLs, etc.
- Compare AF hit rate, consistency and speed between the EF-S camera (in liveview) and the EF-M + adaptor
- Compare output IQ between the two
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The adapter ring with EF-M works just fine. I have M50 for last 4-month together with adapter. I use camera for parties, walk arounds, trips etc.
I use with following lenses canon: 24/1.4, 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 85/1,2&1.8, 135/2 and it just works. I have not experienced any difference in performance against 5Dm3.
It is reliable.
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I can't remember where I saw it, but on commentator said that the reason there has not been a groundswell against Sony is that by the time the bugs have been seen, they are releasing a new body so people get distracted. Seems to be working
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A new mount with a very large diameter plus an adapter for EF would be a good solution for me. The adapter should be included for free though. Later you could buy new lenses for the new large mount which could really make use of it and have a very low vignetting or even an aperture of f/1. With a large diameter you could even use medium format lenses and the 35mm sensor would only use the center of the medium format frame, where the image quality is the best.
However for me a camera still needs a real optical viewfinder, which rules out mirrorless cameras.
Video is something I do not need in a camera at all.
However for me a camera still needs a real optical viewfinder, which rules out mirrorless cameras.
Video is something I do not need in a camera at all.
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Nikon have had the option to completely redesign their new mirrorless mount for the best series of compromises. And from a clean sheet of paper they have ended up with a mount that is just 1mm different from the Canon EF mount.
So what exactly are people expecting from the 'new mount'? Why would Canon's mount be larger if Nikon have decided on the size they have?
So what exactly are people expecting from the 'new mount'? Why would Canon's mount be larger if Nikon have decided on the size they have?
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I would say 'lets hope canon learns from Sony's mistakes. Don't screw up the ergonomics. Don't screw up the heat dissipation. Don't screw up the weather sealing and Durability. Don't screw up the menus. Don't screw up the button layout(as a separate issue to ergonomics). Give us a camera that is reliable and does a good job all the time as opposed to a great job some of the time. If that can be done without compromising specs that would be great but if you need to drop the throughput or have a slightly lower spec video option that's fine. Just make sure it is reliable.
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True, in terms of ergonomics, usability and durability Canon has always been hard to beat. I've never come across a camera or menu system as intuitive as Canon's are. And this isn't based on one camera, it's 13+ years DSLR shooting.
Also, unrelated, EF mount please. There's been this neat little patent on a mount with adjustable flange distance. That sounds like something worth investing in when it ships in a camera.
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You say that, but this is a 100% crop of a 70D file (off the net, way back when it had first been released) pushed umpteen stops (from this) - OK, it's 160 ISO, not exactly base ISO, but it's noise free in the shadows. How much shadow recovery latitude anyone really need?
More than this? I sincerely doubt it. And more to the point - I could pass these off as Sony files with no problem. In fact, I often have.
The secret? Don't convert in LightRoom/ACR..!
That one was DPP. This is Capture One Pro, which arguably makes the point ever more effectively...
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"Cutting edge" technology (whatever that means) does not equal "performance".
Nor does it automatically make for a better photographer, or better photographs...
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There's a world of difference between not mindlessly rushing towards change for change's sake, and being "resistant" to change.
In other words - we'll change when it's time. But not before.
For many of us, right now, mirrorless brings precisely nothing to the table.
So why would we change?
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Because otherwise your clients will look at you and laugh derisively at your outmoded, antiquated gear?
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Let's see, DPAF blows Sony away every time, Sony (Nikon) is really struggling in this area and continues to do so, look at what Canon has done with DPAF in the 700 series cinema cameras (They also smoke Sony (Nikon) in DR with these sensors, Color and overall quality of image by Canon always beats Sony and ease of use, critical when getting that fleeting moment is a real downfall of Sony. 1 stop at most in DR at the lowest ISO is no big deal as Canon consistently beats Sony (Nikon) in DR in most products when the going gets tough like higher than base ISOs. So Canon should have no problem seeing as they are already ahead.
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Is the Borg an 'it' or a 'they'? Now there's a ten-page thread!
They are a collective
Yes I know I'm sad
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Regarding the mount/adaptor argument...
I feel there can be no way Canon will simply change the mount and include a basic EF adapter because they had no problem telling the world they had a "sexy solution" for EF glass on mirrorless.
You dont tell everyone you have a "sexy solution" if all you have is the exact same basic solution that already exists.
Canon developed something new and I bet it's either an EF mount with variable flange distance (moving sensor maybe?) OR it will be the EF mount with new lenses that allow the rear element to extend into the camera body and effectively reduce the flange distance at the same time as making the overall lens extension from the camera shorter.
I expect some recognition from this group when Canon reveals that the solution is one of these two options. =p
I feel there can be no way Canon will simply change the mount and include a basic EF adapter because they had no problem telling the world they had a "sexy solution" for EF glass on mirrorless.
You dont tell everyone you have a "sexy solution" if all you have is the exact same basic solution that already exists.
Canon developed something new and I bet it's either an EF mount with variable flange distance (moving sensor maybe?) OR it will be the EF mount with new lenses that allow the rear element to extend into the camera body and effectively reduce the flange distance at the same time as making the overall lens extension from the camera shorter.
I expect some recognition from this group when Canon reveals that the solution is one of these two options. =p
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