What do you want from the 5D mk III

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What do you want most in the 5d MK III?


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neuroanatomist said:
Consider what I suggested above as applied to the 1-series 'upgrade'. Strip away the marketing hype, and what do you have? A realistic upgrade, but little steps. Modest ISO improvement, modest AF improvement, better metering, bigger sensor and more MP than 1DIV but fewer MP than 1DsIII, modest frame rate improvement over 1DIV, same build, slightly larger VF, more expensive than the 1DIV but cheaper than the 1DsIII. IMO, taking into account that one camera is a replacement for two lines, the 1D X is a realistic - and incremental - upgrade. Hope and dreams aside, it's unlikely the 5DIII will be any different.

Yes and no. I agree all of those are to the user incremental (i.e. not earth shattering) but maybe modest is a bit understated. The engineering behind making even modest improvements is substantial. In general, I think mass market digital image sensors have come a long way and are somewhat mature therefore big advancements are not easy to come by at this point. Eventually, a major breakthrough could/will happen but I don't think that's imminent. The choice of 18MP might be in part due to the fact they just can't get the improvements in ISO and DR they wanted and continue increasing the MP. Will be very interesting to see what they do with the 5D3.

I'm with you in expecting incremental improvements in most if not all features of the 5D3 including slightly higher MP. In the 5D3 they will go for a slight increase in MP and accept a little less ISO and DR than they could get if keeping the MP the same. AF will come close to the current 7D.
 
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As a very new owner of a markII coming from a 30D, I am immediately struck by the noisy (I'd go as far as saying cheap sounding) shutter. The lack of more AF points was the next surprise.

I would vote firmly for more MP, but not higher ISO's or frames per second, as for my use what the mark II is equiped with is fine for my use. I'd love the mark III to be the camera that challenges the Nikon D800 and it's possible 36 MP.

The 5D II is so new to me that I've yet to shoot in anger with it. I've taken one or two test shots while setting things up as I want them but thats it.
 
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motorhead said:
As a very new owner of a markII coming from a 30D, I am immediately struck by the noisy (I'd go as far as saying cheap sounding) shutter. The lack of more AF points was the next surprise.

I would vote firmly for more MP, but not higher ISO's or frames per second, as for my use what the mark II is equiped with is fine for my use. I'd love the mark III to be the camera that challenges the Nikon D800 and it's possible 36 MP.

The 5D II is so new to me that I've yet to shoot in anger with it. I've taken one or two test shots while setting things up as I want them but thats it.

Lack of AF points was a surprise?! Surely you have heard 3 years of people complaining about the 5D series autofocus?!
 
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To be honest I had blanked the 5D and have been seriously looking at a used 1Ds mark3 until I went to a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and we discussed my thinking. Thats when the 5D2 alternative was suggested by the local shop owner.

So I am surprisingly poorly informed other than it has the same MP as the 1Ds mk3, is a little heavier than my old 30D, but only slightly and has no pop-up flash (which suits me fine). I sort of assumed that the Eos-3 has 45 AF points, the new 1Dx has 60 (or is it 61?) therefore the 5 would have 20 or maybe 30.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. Given that I have yet to fire a shot "in anger" so to speak, I have no right to any real opinion as yet and I'm sure the camera will do me fine.
 
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Only two things I want: Better dynamic range, I need at least 13 stops. Then I'll be happy. And if it's not entirely impossible, I wouldn't mind a better af system also. 9 af points is enough, just make them all cross-type and spread them out a little. That's all i ask. I think the video in my 5d mark II is good enough, i don't shoot a lot of video, but it's nice to have.

Hey I'm new to this forum, my first post, so hello everyone!
 
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dtaylor said:
I can't believe more MP got so few votes. Canon needs at least one FF body dedicated to landscape and studio use. They need to match Nikon at 36 MP.

I honestly thought (and hoped) that the new 1D would be high megapixel beast leaving the 5D MKIII to be the low light monster. Looks like that isn't going to be the case.
 
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I want:

24,1 MP
USB 3.0
ISO 100-12800 (standard)
5 FPS
2 x CF
100% OFV
Magnesium body
Same size as EOS 5D Mark II
3,2" Screen (Same as EOS 1D X)
Same light metering as the EOS 1D X
A little better AF the EOS 5D Mark II
Same battery size as EOS 5D Mark II and EOS 7D
Better DR
2500 Euro (Body)
 
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dtaylor said:
I can't believe more MP got so few votes. Canon needs at least one FF body dedicated to landscape and studio use. They need to match Nikon at 36 MP.

Remember that all those votes were cast long before the 1Dx was introduced. At that time, I thought the 1Dx would have 27 MP and do 8FPS. A lot of us were pretty desperate for a Lord-of-Darkness camera like the D3s or, even better, a D700 with a D3s sensor. We're going to get our D3s competitor, but at too high a price.
 
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dtaylor said:
I can't believe more MP got so few votes. Canon needs at least one FF body dedicated to landscape and studio use. They need to match Nikon at 36 MP.

I can - it's really only Canon 1Ds3 and 5D2 owners that have enjoyed a ff sensor offering 21mp for about 3 years now.

I'm discounting the D3x because even by Nikon users admission, it's no good off a tripod and out of the studio!

So 21mp seems to be keeping a lot of people happy, where as the AF is next to embarrassing, when i have to admit i had more responsive focusing on my 40D (which i believe is the same system).

But let's be honest, i think we're all expecting the MP to increase because Canon has killed the old MP king with the 5D2, so the 5DIII seems the logical successor. And probably another stop or 2 of ISO...
 
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I would like:

24 mp
5 p/sec (7-8 with add. battery grip)
better AF
multi-exposure (in-camera)
9 image BKT (3 as of today is just ridicioulous)

you could also name it 3D :) ...at least/last we would be near where we were 10 years ago with the 1V
 
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As a (mostly) content 7D owner longing for FF, I would love to get a 5D with

  • great picture quality even at higher ISO settings (I really hate the noise the 7D pictures show even at ISO 400: far too much banding and JPEG-compression-like artefacts even in RAW)
  • the 7D AF system
  • the 7D weather sealing
  • inbuilt GPS
  • a high quality screen on the back of the cam and the possibility to directly jump into a 100% view of the picture
  • 5 fps
  • faster shutter speed for flash synchronization
 
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21 MP/ better 18 MP (same 1Dx sensor)
working ISO 25600/12800
good ISO102k
if we get that at a 2.8-3k USD pricetag

but that is just my wishlist for an affordable FF
wedding photog might like more MP and cropping space
 
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I just bought a 5DII since I got tired of waiting for a MkIII, but I would upgrade in a flash if it had at least some of first few of the following. Actually, the first 4 are could probably be done in a firmware upgrade, which I would be happy to pay $500-$1000 for.

Expose-to-the-right setting where you set the amount of clipping of highlights

Pixel binning so I can shoot 10MP at ISO6400 and get similar noise to ISO 1600
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mproved live-view/playback functions :
- Direct x10 magnification (and/or zoom into) of actual focus point in image playback (might be difficult
when using phase-detect AF and re-composing, but for contrast-detect it should be fine).
- DOF lock (so I don’t have to keep it pressed down while scanning the image or changing the aperture)
- Ability to zoom in to edges of frame
- Screen brightness lock when DOF preview button is pressed (since I have to use manual exposure because the matrix metering sucks, even on a tripod). I’m not sure why I need the screen brightness to change when changing the aperture while pressing the DOF button and I already had the brightness on exposure simulation.
- Faster contrast detect AF

3,5,7 shot autobracket +/- 3 stops +/-2 on either end

9-11 cross point AF, better Al-Servo. I haven’t used the AF on the 7D, but is seems more complicated than I need, but just copying that could be fine. F8 for the center AF point would be a dream (70-200 f4 + x2 tele).
Better and more consistent matrix metering. OK, I’ve only had the camera 1 month, but it seems very inconsistent compared to my T1i. Even on a tripod or in very similar lighting. I could write an essay on this but now I know why it seems many people shoot in manual with this camera and although it has honed my manual exposure skills over the last month it is a pain sometimes (especially when changing the aperture using DOF preview in live mode). This could also be a function of the increased dynamic range over the T1i, in which case the ‘Expose-to-the-right’ metering will be even more valuable if the DR is increased without going to 16bits.

Keep the MP in the 21-26 range and increase DR and reduce high ISO noise. IMO you are not going to get a 36MP camera with the same DR and high ISO IQ as you have now. Something fundamental needs to happen with sensor technology for this to happen which is why the 1Dx only has 18MP. (Or they could keep cheating on the ISO ratings – they are already 2/3 stop lower than my T1i for instance).
Focus point distance readout (for setting hyperfocal distance or judging optimal focal distance for landscapes)

Inbuilt wireless flash control

1, 3 or 6 fps (not 1 or 6 – too much difference)

Timer on LCD in bulb mode (so I can see exposure time in the dark)

Create new folder for each day

Movie mode on main dial. I don't use it much, but have to have it turned off because I use live-view a lot and don't want to start recording if I hit 'set'. Going into the menu's to use the video is a bit of a pain, but overall as long as it doesn't interfere with still shooting, I'm not too bothered.
 
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ejenner said:
Expose-to-the-right setting where you set the amount of clipping of highlights

Pixel binning so I can shoot 10MP at ISO6400 and get similar noise to ISO 1600

Keep the MP in the 21-26 range and increase DR and reduce high ISO noise. IMO you are not going to get a 36MP camera with the same DR and high ISO IQ as you have now. Something fundamental needs to happen with sensor technology for this to happen which is why the 1Dx only has 18MP.

Timer on LCD in bulb mode (so I can see exposure time in the dark)
I stripped the tech part down a bit , as I am not much into it. But these features here would make the perfect camera in my price range.

Just one question: wouldn't pixelbinning cannibalize an 1Dx? But let's say, for a 30+MP monster this could be an intresting possibility. I'd be taking the gros of my pictures at 8 MP as with my current 30D. 8 MP is plenty for my amateur photographer needs, as I am aiming at better low light IQ.
 
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