What will the 650d sensor be like?

The 18mp sensor on the 650d will be...

  • ... a major upgrade in noise and/or dynamic range

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Marine03 said:
I think the only upgrades this year will be digic 5 and the AF and lens. Next year would get the 70d sensor.

+1.

The sensor will be the same one that's currently used in the 60D and 600D.
Maybe tweaked a little.

The 650D will still have some image quality improvements, though - coming from the Digic 5+ processor and Canon's new JPEG engine.
Maybe half a stop cleaner ISO.

In addition to the update AF, the 650D is also getting a pentaprism viewfinder.
Thus, the only difference between the 650D and the 60D is now the top LCD screen.

In other words, the 60D is basically dead. Long live the 70D ;).
 
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Marsu42 said:
Imho that's typical for tech forum talk - personally, I didn't get the 60d because of the specs, but because of the much better ergonomics (buttons, back dial, top lcd) and for the same reason even choose not to buy the d7000 which outclasses the 60d hands down.
Yep, I've used the T2i/T3i, and I hate trying to switch between exposure settings on them. Its much simpler on my 60D.
 
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x-vision said:
I didn't mean to put down the 60D in any way. Just saying that Canon made the 650D identical in specs to the 60D (sans the top LCD).

I really don't care if the 60d is put down or not, it doesn't affect its value to me in any way. But don't discard the back dial so easily - for my shooting style, I'm practically changing exposure compensation with it for every other shot, esp. when using flash. And as usual for Canon, the 60d will still retain more custom functions in the firmware.
 
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x-vision said:
I didn't mean to put down the 60D in any way.

Just saying that Canon made the 650D identical in specs to the 60D (sans the top LCD).
So, no more product differentiation between the two - a clear sign that the 60D days are numbered.
And that a higher specs 70D is on the way.

With an even higher-specs 7DII.
 
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x-vision said:
I didn't mean to put down the 60D in any way.

Just saying that Canon made the 650D identical in specs to the 60D (sans the top LCD).

the double dial is very useful for the people interested taking photos...and the 60D has been a big let down for me at least
 
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Halocastle said:
The back dial will eventually be absored by a touchscreen gesture(s). It's the next logical step.

I don't think this will replace the back dial, it's much faster to change settings with this and a top lcd - and we'll have to see how the touchscreen performs with cold, sweaty or dirty hands, gloves or a screen protection above it.

pete vella said:
burst rate on 60d is double that of the 650d in raw ,1/8000 shutter , 250 sync speed, finer iso settings. weather sealing. and it does not say rebel on the camera.

Thanks for reminding me - I'm always taking these for granted an am using all of these (except jpeg) a lot, so anything below a xxd would be indeed a no-go for me - and this for a relatively minor added $$$. For the record, even the 5d3 only has 1/200 x-sync, though it only matters for 2nd curtain or else you'd use hss.
 
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pete vella said:
i does seem like a rework of the 18mp sensor about a 1 stop improvement high iso.

How do you know? Just because they increase the maximum possible ISO setting doesn't mean that there's any improvement in RAW image quality or any reduction in ISO noise in the RAW image.
 
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Marsu42 said:
pete vella said:
i does seem like a rework of the 18mp sensor about a 1 stop improvement high iso. looks like canon did good with this one cant wait to see the 70d.

Canon marketing owns you :-)

nahhh...the marketing of canon on this one is on touch screen and AF for videos...if it will work as inteded it will be a big hit for canon
 
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