Why haven't you left canon?
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The same reason I went with Canon SLR/DSLR's in the first place: The glass. Followed by the color.
Honestly, all manufacturers cameras are capable of producing incredible images and "outperforming" most of the photographers using them, anyway. It really comes down to personal preferences. And one of my big preferences is their glass. I've always thought that Canon had a better selection of lenses. I have about $12k+ in EF lenses and another $25K in CN-E (cine) lenses. Plus an EOS 3, 2 x 5D II's, a 5D III and a C300. But the glass will probably be around long after the bodies are retired and replaced by whatever better eventually comes out.
Honestly, all manufacturers cameras are capable of producing incredible images and "outperforming" most of the photographers using them, anyway. It really comes down to personal preferences. And one of my big preferences is their glass. I've always thought that Canon had a better selection of lenses. I have about $12k+ in EF lenses and another $25K in CN-E (cine) lenses. Plus an EOS 3, 2 x 5D II's, a 5D III and a C300. But the glass will probably be around long after the bodies are retired and replaced by whatever better eventually comes out.
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One of my first cameras, the F-1, was a camera that I used for more than one decade. Until the early 70ies this system was my companion. My first air-to-air shots, birth of my children, and a lot more milestones in my life have been held by photography. I liked Canon, it was worth the price you paid for it, cheaper than Nikon. So, one Canon body and lens followed another.
I earlier times (if someone remembers that we used 35mm film), the body and the lens by itself were important tools. The film the other technical variable. The variables have benne merged in the last years. Now the www, electronics,... speed up our lifes. Five years of renewal cylcle were normal, today unthinkable.
I like the lCanon enses and the user-philosophy, also the performance.
But our consumer expectations got bigger and bigger too. And Canon is not meeting our high expectations like we want that Canon does. Some other brands are cheaper and more innovative, have better particular solutions.
So, Canon gets another chance to bring out some successors and I will wait onother year for an good mirrorless camera and an successor for the 5DIII. If this successor is "out of range", Sony or another mirrorless camera will get their chance.
I earlier times (if someone remembers that we used 35mm film), the body and the lens by itself were important tools. The film the other technical variable. The variables have benne merged in the last years. Now the www, electronics,... speed up our lifes. Five years of renewal cylcle were normal, today unthinkable.
I like the lCanon enses and the user-philosophy, also the performance.
But our consumer expectations got bigger and bigger too. And Canon is not meeting our high expectations like we want that Canon does. Some other brands are cheaper and more innovative, have better particular solutions.
So, Canon gets another chance to bring out some successors and I will wait onother year for an good mirrorless camera and an successor for the 5DIII. If this successor is "out of range", Sony or another mirrorless camera will get their chance.
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Because there is no need to. I enjoy using the canon gear along side the sony gear. Canon is better at some things and sony at others. The one area that canon is much better is very long lenses (300-800) and focus tracking, although now that I have gotten used to it the sony a6000 with the mid range zoom (70-200) is giving me better results than the 1D IV and the 70-300L or the sigma 120-300. If a fast and long zoom comes out that is compatible with the on chip auto focus of the a6000 it will become a more difficult to choose which one I would carry around more.
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Because my ancient 30D works.
Also because I don't trust Nikon NEF files. Many years ago it turned out that Nikon manipulated their NEF files with a "hot pixel" removal function that couldn't be properly defeated. Doing Astro-photography means they'd go round deleting half the stars. People telling me "they don't do that today" isn't enough sadly, I know Canon RAWs really are RAW and always have been, but it would take a lot of testing to prove the Nikon RAWs are raw, for me subtleties that can't be seen.. after stacking 100 images become very obvious.
Also because I don't trust Nikon NEF files. Many years ago it turned out that Nikon manipulated their NEF files with a "hot pixel" removal function that couldn't be properly defeated. Doing Astro-photography means they'd go round deleting half the stars. People telling me "they don't do that today" isn't enough sadly, I know Canon RAWs really are RAW and always have been, but it would take a lot of testing to prove the Nikon RAWs are raw, for me subtleties that can't be seen.. after stacking 100 images become very obvious.
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Knut Skywalker said:I first chose Canon because of the Nikon nomenclature. I (as a total DSLR-beginner at that time) just couldn't find out what DSLR to choose. My sister has a Nikon so I wanted a Nikon first. But after testing I chose the 450D over the Nikon whatever-the-hell for the ergonimocs of the whole camera.
Forget about the bodies, I still have no idea what lenses are new and which ones were made 30 years ago.
(and then you have to figure out which ones won't work with modern bodies)
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If you take a closer look at my "personal text" ("The dark side...") on the left hand side or read through my first post here, where I tell my photographical journey, you'll know that I already had left Canon (in film days) and came back. Why?
Because Canon offers the (IMHO) best overall package in the market:
If I was to start today, I'd seriously consider Oly and the OM-D E-M1. But the great lens setup is still to come there...
Now I'm already settled
Because Canon offers the (IMHO) best overall package in the market:
- really good bodies (maybe lacking some IQ today)
- best lenses
- best support and service
- decent pp freeware (DPP, etc.)
- stable and reliable market approach (no mount gambling like Sony, no financial troubles like others)
If I was to start today, I'd seriously consider Oly and the OM-D E-M1. But the great lens setup is still to come there...
Now I'm already settled
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I really like the OM-D E-M1 and the menu system. I think Olympus is far more innovative than Nikon or Sony and like their menu system... If I were to go for a smaller form factor, this would be it.... but I REALLY!!!!! like the glass with Canon... the 100L macro and the 70-200 beat anything Oly has... Then again, there are adaptorsMaximilian said:If you take a closer look at my "personal text" ("The dark side...") on the left hand side or read through my first post here, where I tell my photographical journey, you'll know that I already had left Canon (in film days) and came back. Why?
Because Canon offers the (IMHO) best overall package in the market:
- really good bodies (maybe lacking some IQ today)
- best lenses
- best support and service
- decent pp freeware (DPP, etc.)
- stable and reliable market approach (no mount gambling like Sony, no financial troubles like others)
If I was to start today, I'd seriously consider Oly and the OM-D E-M1. But the great lens setup is still to come there...
Now I'm already settled
, such quandaries to ponder!We are truly blessed in that we have such a wealth of great cameras to choose between.... and the reality is, no matter which one you pick, you made a great choice....
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Khalai said:
AF speed and lock, ISO performance (dull afternoon), flexibility of my AF system and he commented on the overall speed of my camera and how the main controls (shutter release etc) had a better more positive "feel" - his thoughts not mine. I thought his camera and lens combination was pretty good but the typical Welsh light didn't really give his sensor a chance to shine. His AF was pretty slow and didn't track as well as I am used to but that is to be expected as I was using a 1 series so it is not really fair to compare them directly - though I was using a slower lens.
What I think really got to him was that, for our conditions (photographing small birds) the Canon setup proved significantly faster with a much higher "Hit Rate" - this combined with the fact that I hadn't paid much more than he did yet had a faster/more responsive camera (1DX) and a better (though slower) lens that is 300mm longer.
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Firstly, the 24/2.8 IS. There is no equivalent for any other mount.
Secondly, the 70-300L
Also the ability to swap either of these onto film bodies with very simple compatibility issues (if it's after 1987, it just works.
Secondly, the 70-300L
Also the ability to swap either of these onto film bodies with very simple compatibility issues (if it's after 1987, it just works.
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A bit O.T.
I don't remember what I was googling, but I went to an (Italian) Nikon forum.
At least 80% of the forumers were complaining about the features of their new Full Frame (D750): "1/4000 shutter speed", "only SD cards", "just 6.5 FPS".
Some of them hoped Nikon would deliver a "Nikon 7D Mark II", namely a Nikon D300s 2.0 (D400, D9x00, who knows).
I don't remember what I was googling, but I went to an (Italian) Nikon forum.
At least 80% of the forumers were complaining about the features of their new Full Frame (D750): "1/4000 shutter speed", "only SD cards", "just 6.5 FPS".
Some of them hoped Nikon would deliver a "Nikon 7D Mark II", namely a Nikon D300s 2.0 (D400, D9x00, who knows).
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ChristopherMarkPerez said:
This! And on another thread on this forum, people have suggested that the dark side unlocks "creative potential" because you don't have to worry about taking a good exposure - everything can be recovered in photoshop ... Sheesh
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If you are already invested in a Canon system, funda iphone 6 plus like I am, there really isn't a need to in 99.9999% of cases.You should be able to do everything you need with a Canon camera, if you're willing to put the funda galaxy s5 time in and learn how. I love it
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Bennymiata
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I got my first Canon in 1968, an FT- QL, when I was 13 years old.
I am now a semi-pro and I've tried various Nikons, Sonys, Pentax etc., but I stick with Canon because they just work well and because of the lenses and other accessories.
I am now a semi-pro and I've tried various Nikons, Sonys, Pentax etc., but I stick with Canon because they just work well and because of the lenses and other accessories.
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tomscott
Photographer & Graphic Designer
Ive been shooting Canon for 10 years starting with my first SLR film camera, then a 350D then 40D and now been shooting my 5DMKIII for 2 years and it continues to impress me, anything I demand of it, it delivers. Great AF FPS handling and love the IQ 50-6400 fantastic useable range. The only thing I wish it had was built in GPS when I'm traveling as the GP-E2 is bulky and a pain.
Love my lenses too, but wish the system was a little lighter, not a problem for commercial but for my own personal use is a little bit of a pain to carry.
I see no need to upgrade it until something decisively better exists, and nothing really does. You can say the Exmor chip is worth it and yes it delivers but the comparison only really shows its head in extreme circumstances. I generally don't shoot extreme circumstances so for me the difference is minimal. Yes it would be nice for the odd occasion but as a photographer I ensure the images come out correctly so I don't have to worry in post and rely on the tech.
Love my lenses too, but wish the system was a little lighter, not a problem for commercial but for my own personal use is a little bit of a pain to carry.
I see no need to upgrade it until something decisively better exists, and nothing really does. You can say the Exmor chip is worth it and yes it delivers but the comparison only really shows its head in extreme circumstances. I generally don't shoot extreme circumstances so for me the difference is minimal. Yes it would be nice for the odd occasion but as a photographer I ensure the images come out correctly so I don't have to worry in post and rely on the tech.
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