Why haven't you left canon?

[Khalai]

There is no question in my mind now that the "other side" has better IQ. When you compare on a normalized basis, overall color fidelity and noise are quite improved over Canon offerings, with the potential exception of the 1D X at high ISO (A7s should still top even that.)

There is also no question in my mind now that the "other side", at least non-Nikon, still has some drawbacks. For landscapes alone, I'd buy the A7r pretty quick if it wasn't for one key complaint: the poor implementation of bracketing that doesn't seem to work well with adapted Canon lenses. Even though I don't think I'd need it as much, there are still scenes where I am sure I'd need bracketing. Canon cameras will automatically perform all necessary exposures in timer modes, so you can leave the camera hands (and shake) free. The A7r has a "continuous bracketing" mode, but it seems to take identical exposures (at least when using Metabones with an EF lens). There is also a "single bracketing" mode, but you have to press the button for each one...and there is not a timer option. So the exposure happens while your touching the camera, which obviously screws up at least some of the exposures.

When the flaws of cameras like the A7r are resolved, I think it would be easy for Canon users looking for a fix for their DR itch to simply add a Sony FF mirrorless to their kit. The IQ is phenomenal, and a lot of the camera features are quite nice. Manual focus is actually extremely easy, and ironically...thanks to the moire and aliasing. (Everything "glitters" with aliasing artifacts when it's fully in focus...so even though the EVF is limited in resolution...once you get the glitter on the right thing in your scene, your focused. Even works with ultra fast lenses like the 50/1.4!)

Let's hope, that by the time Sony get those little quirks and hiccups together, Canon itself will already have a better sensor in terms of DR to quench those, who seek for it, without the need of switching systems/adding another bodies from third party.

I mean, I can dream, right?

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Erm 400mm f2.8, 35mm f1.4, 85mm f1.2, TSe-17, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 LIS to name just a few lenses.
I have two 5DIII bodies and they are the most versatile cameras I've ever used. Ok Sony /Nikon might have a shadow noise advantage, but that's just one specification and on balance, the 5DIII is the best camera currently available for my shooting needs.

 

[Kayo]

The 400mm 5.6 and 85mm 1.8

I shoot for fun and those lenses at their price are great.

 

[gregorywood]

So I'm sure to be a relative newbie to the majority on this forum. I've been into photography off and on for most of my adult life - about 26 years, starting with Minolta Film P&S, then progressing into early digital with P&S by both Olympus and Canon. It wasn't until early 2011 that I made the decision to invest in a DSLR and when I made that decision, I researched it heavily. It came down to Canon or Nikon after I had digested a large volume of information, mostly on the internet, but also having some real-world info from people who had one of the other.

I walked into Arlington Camera one afternoon and asked to see the Canon Rebel T2i (550D) and the Nikon 3100. I spent about 15 minutes handling them and looking over the menus and the controls. I chose Canon. It just felt right in my hand and the controls were well placed and generally intuitive.

I upgraded to the 7D in mid 2012. I started investing in lenses and flashes. This year, I bought the 6D as a companion to the 7D. At this point, I really want for not much else.

There is nothing I can't do given my level of expertise with what I have and frankly, I am the weak link in the chain from photographer to subject. I'm heavily invested in Canon gear and I have no beefs with my gear. It always works, still feels great in my hands and still takes great photos.

I see no reason to switch. It seems like an effort in futility to me, chasing pixels, and I frankly am confused by people who do. But that's their business and not mine.

Greg

 

[willis]

Only thing that is holding me back now is money.. I don't have money to change for D810 - 14-24 + 24-70 F2.8 combo.
But since Canon is doing something with high megapixel body that might change my opinion. But I can wait still 7D still does what I need but I would love that extra sharpness.
But anyhow D810 is just a killer, dynamic range and noise reduction is just so ridiculous.

 

[J.R.]

I have considered the dark-side with the Nikon D810 and a Nikkor 14-24 lens for landscape shooting. The only thing that's stopped me from getting this combination is my existing TS-E 24mm with a TS-E 17mm to be added this Christmas.

So basically it's a compromise like it always is in life. Either I can use the TS-E or I can take advantage of the DR of the Nikon. I opted for the former because the TS-E is too good to give up. I take bracketed shots with my 6D for landscapes and process them with luminosity masks in photoshop.

PS: The more I've thought about it, I've realized that more often than not, the DR range in landscapes is way too wide to be covered by the D810 in any case. So it basically boils down to ... only 2 stops more??? Meh ...

I don't mind switching systems, but the incremental benefit is likely to be negligible.

 

[Ivan Muller]

I just think the Canon bodies are better looking than Nikon....A7 on the other hand reminds me of my old Canon F1, which was rather beautiful! If I 'jump ship' it will be an A7r mk2 body with adapter as a megapixel supplement to my everyday workhorse Eos6D....

 

[tomscott]

What I find funny is if you go over to sonyalpharumors many people compare the new Exmor to the 5DMKIII and admit it is a better camera system all round.

These are all comments by sonyalpharumors members on the latest sensor threads.

"dynamic range at higher ISO's where the 5DIII's lurch ahead of their nikon/sony counterparts"

Funny how even they think DXO is dodgy "If you leave DxOMark planet and land back to earth, you'll see that in real life the difference is very very little, and after ISO400 Canon 6D and 5DMarkIII are as good as or better than Sony sensors"

Also most are in the same camp bout the mega pixel war and know that sony needs to create more native faster lenses 'I'd rather have faster autofocus, in body stabilization, quieter shutter and more native lenses (and faster ones) than more megapixels.'

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-high-megapixel-war-rumors-canon-46mp-camera-coming-soon-and-sony-in-januaryfebruary/

From that article it seems they are excited to see what Canon do with this new sensor, because although sony make the best sensors their cameras and systems are a lot less than to be desired. Also How much more R&D do sony actually have after putting all into exmor?

Canon was in a similar position a few years ago and then regurgitated the same tech for the last 5 years so that will be interesting to see how far sony can push their tech and if Canon does have new tech how it will rival and the time scales because sony is to announce their new sensors early 2015.

I think thats what we are forgetting and a lot of people on here are the other way round ATM DR and resolution is all the rage and aggressively contested, forget about all that Canon has over its competition and that the 5DMKIII is far from being thrown to the parts bin.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Also most are in the same camp bout the mega pixel war and know that sony needs to create more native faster lenses 'I'd rather have faster autofocus, in body stabilization, quieter shutter and more native lenses (and faster ones) than more megapixels.'

That's right, as an a6000 owner I would like Sony to invest more in good (aps-c) glass and less in megapixels and overall nerdiness. At high iso the NEX-6 was as good or better than the a6000. Still, the a6000 is the better camera from a usability point of view (and the picture styles finally incorporate a good 'neutral' similar to the style from Canon).

 

[tolusina]

I haven't left Canon partly because I just got here about a year and a half back.
I've worn out two Nikon DSLRs, hope to never own another Nikon anything.

I far prefer the handling, ergonomics, menus, file system and so forth of Nikons, BUT, when the cash register rings 'total', it's Canon that's tallied for it's build quality.


Sony, mirror less, not on my radar.

I am giving serious thought to the new Pentax 645Z, but that (if it happens) will be in addition to my Canon gear.

I may have to switch away from the Canon RC RT flash system, looking at Cactus right now.
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In other words, I'm either not stupid enough to change or I'm too stupid to change, or both.

 

[Eldar]

I have been with Canon since 1975 (or thereabout). I have almost jumped ship a couple of times, but I have always stayed. There is currently no alternative to some of my lenses (17 TS-E, 24 TS-E, 8-15mm, 200-400 1.4x and 600 f4L IS II (yes, Nikon has a 600, but not the same league)). My 1DX is still the ultimate action camera and with the 7DII I fill the reach need.

BUT! I want a high resolution alternative, with lots of DR at low ISO!!!

 

[zidee]

Long time lurker.... so first i'll say hello to all members of this great forum! And sorry for my english, it's my third language and definitely not the best.

Anyway... i'm not leaving at all.... but today i've done my (side) step and ordered a Pentax 645Z and some glasses. 8)

I have to say that i'm really satisfied with my 6D and a few L lenses and this rig will stay with me for it's own purpose .....but, few weeks ago i had to do an assignment for a client who demanded for doin this specific job with a hasselblad system. Therefore i've rented a H-series body with three lenses and was completely blown away by its IQ! But, besides the fact that it's a beast of it's own in terms of ergonomics and handling (especially for a happy Canon shooter like me) the whole system is way out of my financial possibilities.....

Maybe D8xx with some Zeiss Otus could have been a alternative ...i decided to go with the 645Z and hope it serves my needs for IQ within the next years.

 

[lintoni]

Therapeutic reasons, I'm an obsessive-compulsive moaner, and picking fault with Canon is so easy (thanks to the handy hints I get from this forum!) and much more socially acceptable than doing so with your friends. I don't actually take any photos, but whinging about the lack of a match for Nikon's 14-24, or the antiquated dust-sucking 100-400, instead of my friends behaviour (or dress, their wife, their girlfriend, or both or...), has saved me from a few black eyes. You have to be careful, though. When I started going on about Canon's sensor and shadow noise, I quickly picked up the nickname "Dynamic Range" - which was great, I'd never been called "dynamic" before! 8) Anyway, I must have overdone it, I went from being "Dynamic Range" to "Out of Range", nobody wanted to listen to me, so I've had to stop moaning about that and find something else. Canon haven't failed me in that respect - I have been having a good whinge about the lack of video capabilities in Canon's DSLRs,so much so that I've managed to lose that horrible "Out of Range" tag for the much nicer "4-Ker"...

 

[sanj]

Therapeutic reasons, I'm an obsessive-compulsive moaner, and picking fault with Canon is so easy (thanks to the handy hints I get from this forum!) and much more socially acceptable than doing so with your friends. I don't actually take any photos, but whinging about the lack of a match for Nikon's 14-24, or the antiquated dust-sucking 100-400, instead of my friends behaviour (or dress, their wife, their girlfriend, or both or...), has saved me from a few black eyes. You have to be careful, though. When I started going on about Canon's sensor and shadow noise, I quickly picked up the nickname "Dynamic Range" - which was great, I'd never been called "dynamic" before! 8) Anyway, I must have overdone it, I went from being "Dynamic Range" to "Out of Range", nobody wanted to listen to me, so I've had to stop moaning about that and find something else. Canon haven't failed me in that respect - I have been having a good whinge about the lack of video capabilities in Canon's DSLRs,so much so that I've managed to lose that horrible "Out of Range" tag for the much nicer "4-Ker"...

Hahahaha

 

[pj1974]

Several reasons.

But if I could sum it up in 1 sentence, it would be something like this:

The number of Canon attributes that I prefer to the competition (other major brands) outweighs the (other) attributes any other brand can offer over Canon.

The things in particular that have influenced me to buy Canon DSLRs include the following:

Their DSLR lenses
Ergonomics
Implementation of AF
High ISO quality / capability
Output colours
Software options / compatibility
DPAF
Live View
Video implementation

There are a few other factors that other brands may be superior in, but none of these are deal breakers to me.

(I currently have the 7D, have used Canon FF and will likely upgrade to the 7DmkII)

The vast majority of photos I take will not be noticeably limited by any of the factors that other brands may be (slightly superior in). I cover a vast range of photography, from events, macro, landscapes, wildlife, casual sports, family/ memories, some portrait, etc. I also make use of HDR photography, time lapse, etc, etc.

Paul

 

[dash2k8]

I won't switch because I can't afford to start over on the lenses.

 

[Maximilian]

Long time lurker.... so first i'll say hello to all members of this great forum! ...

Hello zidee!

Welcome to this forum and thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Greetings,
Maximilian

 

[Khalai]

Let's hope, that by the time Sony get those little quirks and hiccups together, Canon itself will already have a better sensor in terms of DR to quench those, who seek for it, without the need of switching systems/adding another bodies from third party.

I mean, I can dream, right?

I dream of the same thing. If so many Canon customers insist it doesn't matter, though, I don't see why Canon would bother. The reviews of the D750 are rather raving, too...it seems to have excellent AF and excellent IQ, and a good frame rate. Only bummer is it doesn't work with Canon lenses.

I'm quite confident, that Canon will eventually respond, better yet, leapfrog to recent Nikon bodies. And yes - I'm pathological optimist

Some people stick with Canon, some people stick with Nikon, some people jump ship every other year and the world keeps spinning. Just get the gear you find most suited for your needs and be happy about it. There will never be an ideal know-it-all camera body with no downsides.

I'm stuck with Canon, because I love their lenses, body handling and UI (intuitive) and surprisingly to some, IQ and color of their sensor (which might actually be the color rendition of L lenses, but let's not derive into this topic, which would deserve a different thread...).

 

[Marsu42]

I'm quite confident, that Canon will eventually respond, better yet, leapfrog to recent Nikon bodies. And yes - I'm pathological optimist

It doesn't take blind optimism for that assessment, Canon is far from being doomed.

Actually this is the very point that seems to annoy a lot of people (including me): Canon *could* do better if they would want! But they don't see any pressing need because if you can milk the current tech until kingdom come, generating a lot of profit, it "forces" users who don't skip generations to buy gear again after the real upgrade to come.

 

[Maximilian]

skip generations ...

I think, that's the only way to convince Canon to move: vote with your purse!

I still don't believe that any sensor/MP/DR/"I will leave"/what else thread in this and other forums will have any effect on Canon.
It will only have negative effects on this forum. And that would be really, really sad.