Will you be disappointed if the 70d gets the same 18mp sensor?

[Drum]

will anybody actually believe that it is a NEW sensor if it does have 18mp? An incremental upgrade isn't an option after 2.5 years. There also has to be some separation between the 650/700 d and the newer lines.

 

[kubelik]

will anybody actually believe that it is a NEW sensor if it does have 18mp? An incremental upgrade isn't an option after 2.5 years. There also has to be some separation between the 650/700 d and the newer lines.

the 5DIII has at least a 2/3-stop noise improvement over the 5DII, even though their pixel density is very similar. trust me, if they really put out an improved 18 MP sensor, people will give them credit where it's due.

however, if they "improve" it so marginally that it's impossible to tell, that's not called improvement, and everyone will give them the mud-to-the-face that would be deserved at that point

 

[Marsu42]

will anybody actually believe that it is a NEW sensor if it does have 18mp?

No way - Canon will make it 19mp to keep it above the old 18mp sensors, but below the 20mp 6d :-> ... or they'll go for 25mp just for the sake of having more than Nikon's aps-c.

 

[Deleted member 7828]

If the MP count stays at 18 MP - no.

If the high ISO performance shows no improvement - yes.

 

[Don Haines]

I read a rumour elsewhere that the 70D will have Digic 6 and the same sensor as the EOS-SL1.

Of course, it is just a rumour.... anyone can make up a rumour... Only time will tell.

 

[TheBadger]

GUYS! Chill!
I was referring to the generation/technology of the sensor and not to the number of the megapixels themselves! I don't care about the megapixel count as long as they are more than 8 (personally 10mp is enough for my needs).

I just want to see a "next gen" sensor by Canon though. Something that will be on par with Sony/Oly sensors.

Maybe we should start calling it the "7D sensor" from now on.

 

[rpt]

No.

 

[RLPhoto]

Nope.

 

[EchoLocation]

Is this thread just trolling for an argument.... of course people will be disappointed if they don't start changing sensors after so many releases with the same one.
There's no chance i'm buying the 70D, so I really don't care all that much, but just for the sake of progress in the camera industry, i'd be very disappointed if they don't have something better.

 

[CarlTN]

The 70D will get a "new" 18mp 1.6x crop sensor, and it either will, or will not, get "digic 6" processing. I'm disappointed enough, but I didn't need much more of an excuse to just go full frame...so I did. I'm keeping my "old" 50D, though. Unless the 70D inherits the "old" 7D's AF sensor, or something very very close to it, then it's not worth the upgrade to me. If it does get it, and sells for around $1300, then it just might be a great value.

 

[bardamu]

Yeah the thread does seem pretty redundant the way it is. Perhaps a more interesting way to look at it might be: What will / should potential 70D buyers do if it somehow turns out to be a disappointment.

a) keep shooting with existing camera, don't upgrade b) Nikon D7100 or similar c) lower-tier FF (6D, 5D II, D600) d) wait on the 7D mk ii e) get a 7D f) something else

Those seem like the most obvious choices. Obviously depends partly on individual needs / existing kit.

 

[K-amps]

that fact that I can now buy a computer that's twice as fast and half as expensive as it was in 2009 tells me everything I need to know about how much Canon has been milking their APS-C chip. sure they've added on-chip autofocus now, but a badly implemented feature does not count as improvement.

I'm really happy to see Canon diving into a whole bunch of new areas with cameras like the EOS M and the SL1, but let's get something straight: the body development team are not (hopefully not) the same guys that are the sensor development team. so there is no justification for the near-zero evolution of Canon's APS-C sensor line.

is there anything inherently wrong with the 18 MP APS-C sensor? no. we were pretty happy when the 7D got released with it, and while it never came close to matching the 5DII's sensor, I don't think anyone really expected it to. the sensor was great then, and is just as good now as it was then. the issue to me isn't really the sensor itself, it's what it signifies from Canon. it's Canon telling us that they don't feel that they need to innovate. it's Canon telling us they think we're dumb enough to think that sticking a t5i sticker on a t4i means it's "new". it's Canon lying to us that we shouldn't judge the chip's autofocus speed on the EOS M because it's pre-production, and it'll get much faster by the time of the actual release.

I don't think the folks at Canon are stupid, but I do feel they take the liberty of thinking that their consumer base is a little dim. the t5i is definitely toeing the line of "let's see how sheep-like our customer base is" and I hope the 70D and 7DII have not been treated the same way.

+1 Well Said.

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