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    What do people want to see in the Canon EOS R1? PetaPixel gives their thoughts

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    We have been talking about the inevitable Canon EOS R1 for as long as the EOS R system has existed. The talk peaked once the Canon EOS R3 was announced and released.

    The Chris Niccolls at Petapixel have chimed in on what he'd like to see in the Canon EOS R1 when it comes in 2024.

    All of this seems to come down to the new stacked sensor from Canon. PetaPixel's sources say this area has been the biggest challenge in the EOS R1 development cycle.

    Canon EOS R1 Desired Specifications

    • A 50-60mp stacked sensor with tons of speed
    • A body with similar ergonomics as the EOS R3
      • We haven't heard too many complaints about the EOS R3 ergonomics, but this tends to be a very personal thing for shooters.
    • Dual CFExpress Type B card slots
      • It's time to have two of the same card slots. We'd be shocked if the EOS R1 didn't have 2 type B CFe slots. While prototype Type C cards exist, very few would be happy to see their Type B cards become deprecated already.
    • No more mechanical shutter?
      • This would be a big departure for Canon, and there are technical challenges to solve. We're not sure how the professionals that would use this camera feel about this idea. Nikon has done it in the Z8 and Z9.
    • More computation software tricks such as slow shutter speed emulation to remove the need for ND filters. Perhaps things like enhanced low-light performance and astro-photography capabilities for easy and seamless stacking of images.
      • Any features like this would be great, but they have to be implemented a lot better than the 400mp image trickery now available in the EOS R5.
    • Lots of 8K video recording features. Perhaps adding 14-bit video and adding C-Log2 for compressed 10-bit video.
      • As mentioned by Chris, all of this will depend on Canon's new stacked sensor capabilities. We don't think Canon would release an EOS R1 without these sorts of abilities.
    • Optional external cooling accessory
      • We hope Canon solves the cooling challenges in both the EOS R5 Mark II and EOS R1. While an official external cooling accessory would be a nice thing if necessary, we think it would be much preferred not to need such an add on.

    We would like to see a larger OLED rear panel, and advancement in the top down information panel and the rumored larger and brighter EVF. These are important features in our opinion that don't seem to move ahead as fast as other camera advancements.

    We'd also like to see the EOS R1 ready for WiFi 7 (802.11be).

    We're sure everyone is going to have a lot of opinions of what they'd like to see. While the EOS R1 won't sell anywhere near the numbers we'd see from an EOS R5 Mark II, it really does have to be the “flagships of flagships” to put Canon's capabilities on everyone's mind.

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    1. Everything sounds reasonable.
      Personally, I would still prefer a mechanical shutter.
      But if you have no more rolling shutter issues because of global shutter and if s/n isn't differing from continuous operation to mechanical shutter operation, the only reason for a mechanical shutter would be to protect the sensor.
    2. Autofocus, Autofocus and Autofocus.

      This isn't meant to say anything bad about the current AF on the R5 I shoot (I haven't shot an R3), but the R5 does so much very well already, for me to want the next level up camera, it is eye-detect on faster and faster moving subjects, low light autofocus (animals in shadows), and faster AF lock.
    3. 1: mechanical (sensor protection) & global shutter
      2: fully reliable eye-controlled AF
      3: same EVF as in R3 or better
      4: choice between 30 and 60 MP
      5: IP 56 rated dust and water protection
    4. Everything sounds reasonable.
      Personally, I would still prefer a mechanical shutter.
      But if you have no more rolling shutter issues because of global shutter and if s/n isn't differing from continuous operation to mechanical shutter operation, the only reason for a mechanical shutter would be to protect the sensor.
      Stacked sensors are not global shutters. None of these cameras read all the data at once, they have a fast enough readout to limit or eliminate rolling shutter.
    5. Autofocus, Autofocus and Autofocus.

      This isn't meant to say anything bad about the current AF on the R5 I shoot (I haven't shot an R3), but the R5 does so much very well already, for me to want the next level up camera, it is eye-detect on faster and faster moving subjects, low light autofocus (animals in shadows), and faster AF lock.
      It's time for insect eye AF.
    8. It's time for insect eye AF.
      Already working pretty well on my R6m2.
      Dragonflies mostly get the focus on the eye.
      Other insects, too.
      Slight problems with butterflies and eyespots on the wings.
      Edit: Yes, I know that it is no "real" insect eye AF!
    9. Stacked sensors are not global shutters. None of these cameras read all the data at once, they have a fast enough readout to limit or eliminate rolling shutter.
      That's why I was using a more general phrase. I do not know yet what the final R1 sensor will be. Not sure about stacked yet.
    10. I'm not in the market for such a camera, but I still think the ergonomics, modes selection and overall layout were much better on the 1D series or even the 5D series.

      Built-in ND filters would be really nice, especially if you use a lens that doesn't accept front filters.

      For the rest, my bet is on the dream specifications + really high price tag combo rather than dropping the price of the R3 and placing the R1 slightly above the R3. Reason being imho: why would it take so long to release the R1 if just for slight specs bump? Might be wrong ofc...
    11. We have been talking about the inevitable Canon EOS R1 for as long as the EOS R system has existed. The talk peaked once the Canon EOS R3 was announced and released. The Chris Niccolls at Petapixel have chimed in on what he’d like to see in the Canon EOS R1 when it comes in

      See full article...
      I would be happy with 45MP/60MP stacked sensor with 60FPS. HUGE dynamic range and quad pixel AF. More into stills so video is not my game. I don't mind the mechanical shutter as much. cooling in stills is not an issue, even though better cooling system will be needed for the high FPS. Also need to have a VERY fast recording time. and last thing last, it have to be under 2K$
    13. Potato eye AF
      It does this quite well already, since the potato eyes them to be black circles surrounded by bright potato skin. I actually ran into this a few months ago :)
    14. QPAF. That's how I interpreted Canon's comments after the R3, that the R1 was coming but the technology wasn't ready – the inability of all Canon MILCs to focus on horizontal lines.
      I was about to mention Quad Pixel AF. Plus easy focusing on close subjects vs background (for birding).
    16. All the above are really nice things to have, when I finally become a millionaire. Before that, I really just want Canon to give us a decent smartphone app and faster wifi connectivity.
    17. Already working pretty well on my R6m2.
      Dragonflies mostly get the focus on the eye.
      Other insects, too.
      Slight problems with butterflies and eyespots on the wings.
      That's awesome... I enjoy insect photography.
    18. QPAF. That's how I interpreted Canon's comments after the R3, that the R1 was coming but the technology wasn't ready – the inability of all Canon MILCs to focus on horizontal lines.
      Yes, QPAF would be the feature I expect the R1 to have (finally!).
      There are lots of other stuff it could/should have, but having no QPAF in it while other cameras (like the new Olympus OM1 having it for over a year) would be embarrassing.
    19. My wishlist would be:
      - (Stacked) 45-60mpx sensor with great dynamic range and low light performance
      - Quad pixel AF
      - Form factor similar to R3 (not too much heavier)
      - Pre-shutter capture (or pre-shot mode or however they call it). A mode where it continuously saves shots to cache when half-pressing the shutter, and saving/capturing the previous 40 or so shots upon shutter press.
      - Custom burst rate options (not just 3/15/30, but being able to choose 6 or 8 or whatever in between)
      - EVF comparable to R3 (with a bit more eye control accuracy)
      - Not overly expensive (haha in my dreams)

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