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    Canon officially discontinues the MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro

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    One of Canon's most unique lenses, the MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro has been officially discontinued. These little niche lenses helped set Canon's lens lineup apart from other manufacturers. We're hoping that we see lenses like this in the future for the RF mount.

    Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro

    • EF-Mount Lens/Full-Frame Format
    • Aperture Range: f/2.8 to f/16
    • One Ultra-Low Dispersion Lens Element
    • Super Spectra Coating
    • 1:1 to 5:1 Magnification, 9.4″ Min Focus
    • Manual Focus Operation
    • Three-Group Floating Element System
    • Detachable, Rotatable Tripod Collar
    • 6-Blade Diaphragm
    • Compatible with Macro Ring or Twin Lites

    The only native macro for the RF-mount from Canon is the RF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro. We haven't heard anything about any other macro lenses coming to the lineup, but we wouldn't be shocked to see a small RF-S macro sometime in the next little while.

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    2. I don't get it: this unique lens was the reason why I switched to Canon a long time ago! Why discontinue a lens (despite the certainly low volume) with no alternative available?
    3. I don't get it: this unique lens was the reason why I switched to Canon a long time ago! Why discontinue a lens (despite the certainly low volume) with no alternative available?
      I think it is a bad decision driven by short-term marketing data and cost, not taking into account long-term brand value.
    4. I don't get it: this unique lens was the reason why I switched to Canon a long time ago! Why discontinue a lens (despite the certainly low volume) with no alternative available?
      I very much hope that they already have had a replacement scheduled, but couldn't get the timing right. Hypothetical example: a planned last production run early 2020, replacement announcement in 2024. Since 2020 was a dumpster fire, that production run wouldn't have happened and it could also have pushed the replacement even further out. That's the most positive interpretation I can come up with.

      Whatever the reason, I want the replacement to be available and in stock when my MP-E breaks, especially during spring/summer when I use it almost daily.
    5. I very much hope that they already have had a replacement scheduled, but couldn't get the timing right. Hypothetical example: a planned last production run early 2020, replacement announcement in 2024. Since 2020 was a dumpster fire, that production run wouldn't have happened and it could also have pushed the replacement even further out. That's the most positive interpretation I can come up with.

      Whatever the reason, I want the replacement to be available and in stock when my MP-E breaks, especially during spring/summer when I use it almost daily.
      I suspect that the replacement will be available (assuming one is coming — it's obviously a pretty unique design) before the current supply runs out. The lens is not a major seller and the current supplies for new lenses and spare parts will probably last a few years.
    6. I don't get it: this unique lens was the reason why I switched to Canon a long time ago! Why discontinue a lens (despite the certainly low volume) with no alternative available?
      I agree.
      Uncommon lenses, no competitor had, was certainly a reason to enter the Canon biotope, rather than Nikon's or Sony's.
      In my case, it was the availability of the widest Tilt/Shift on the market and of the 65 Macro.
      In fact, I bought none of them , realizing I needed other lenses more urgently, also lacking money for such specific lenses.
      But the existance of such lenses influenced my "pro-Canon" decision.
    8. I don't get it: this unique lens was the reason why I switched to Canon a long time ago! Why discontinue a lens (despite the certainly low volume) with no alternative available?

      There are some good 3rd party options available(Venus Laowa, Mitakon) which will fill this niche, unfortunately Canon has been culling the lenses with no replacments for RF mount in sight in some cases it might be good decade long wait(look at lack of 180mm Macro option for any mirrorless mount).
    10. There are some good 3rd party options available(Venus Laowa, Mitakon) which will fill this niche[...]
      None of those go from 1x to 5x and none of those have electronic aperture control, which is, IMO, a must have at these magnifications. You're effectively at f/80 at 5x when you set apterture to f/11. Being able to focus wide open is, again IMO, a must.
    11. Hmm, my MP-E is almost 15 years old, I wonder when the internal ribbon cable will tear, which will practically mean needing a whole new lens.
      Normally, Canon provides spare parts for repairs for 7 years after the discontinuation.
    13. None of those go from 1x to 5x and none of those have electronic aperture control, which is, IMO, a must have at these magnifications. You're effectively at f/80 at 5x when you set apterture to f/11. Being able to focus wide open is, again IMO, a must.
      Mitakon shoots from 1x to 5x(though it is a bit soft compared to either Venus or Canon), Venus needs to be complemented with their 2X ultra macro for whole range of Macro. I never found mag ratio beyond 2x practical for field use even with focus rails and used MPE indoors and I use high CRI flashlight(Convoy S2+ based on Nichia 219) to provide lighting for focusing due to which never had issue with electronic aperture. These days most of times I am using 100mm Venus outdoors with MPE restricted for indoor use with dead subjects.
    14. I never found mag ratio beyond 2x practical for field use even with focus rails and used MPE indoors
      Almost all of my use of the MP-E 65 is in the 3-5x range, outdoors and handheld (usually with the twin flash, either mounted on the lens or on a pair of Wimberly F-2 brackets).
    15. Almost all of my use of the MP-E 65 is in the 3-5x range, outdoors and handheld (usually with the twin flash, either mounted on the lens or on a pair of Wimberly F-2 brackets).
      One of butterfly photographer also uses his MPE in field in that Mag ratio range but he shoots butterfly eggs(led lights in twin light help with focusing). I shoot lizards and arachnids and they are notoriously difficult to photograph beyond 2x Mag ratio in field.
    16. One of butterfly photographer also uses his MPE in field in that Mag ratio range but he shoots butterfly eggs(led lights in twin light help with focusing). I shoot lizards and arachnids and they are notoriously difficult to photograph beyond 2x Mag ratio in field.
      Butterflies are hard to photograph with an MP-E + twin light was well, but it can be very rewarding.
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      But most of my pictures taken with the MP-E are bees or spiders:
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      I can control a lot of variables in my garden, but I would still hate stopped-down focussing, the EVF gets very laggy when having to boost light levels.
    17. Butterflies are hard to photograph with an MP-E + twin light was well, but it can be very rewarding.
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      But most of my pictures taken with the MP-E are bees or spiders:
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      I can control a lot of variables in my garden, but I would still hate stopped-down focussing, the EVF gets very laggy when having to boost light levels.
      Butterflies in general are difficult subjects to photograph, especially true if you are in western ghats(even 180/200mm Macro feel short) while in Himalayas you can easily photograph them with 60mm Macro.
      unless Venus Laowa starts adding electronic aperture to new lenses its either stopped down focusing or using MPE knowing its going to be difficult to get it serviced in future. I hope we get 180mm, efs 60mm, efs 35mm and MPE 65 replacements soon.
    18. Almost all of my use of the MP-E 65 is in the 3-5x range, outdoors and handheld (usually with the twin flash, either mounted on the lens or on a pair of Wimberly F-2 brackets).
      You must have really steady hands and body. I find I sway too much to be able to keep a subject within the depth of field even at 1x. What is your keeper rate like?
    19. You must have really steady hands and body. I find I sway too much to be able to keep a subject within the depth of field even at 1x. What is your keeper rate like?
      Not great, but digital images are 'free'. I use my swaying to 'focus', and just press the shutter when I hit the focal plane I want.

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