EOS 4 Life said:

Says who?
We have no idea when they decided to kill it.

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hmmmm.... logic and reality?!?
Or are you saying that Canon was truly supporting the M mount till one day when they suddenly weren't anymore?

This Kestrel showed up frequently during our walks last year. So, I took my RF 100-500mm out, put a 2x TC on it and went at it

R5 + RF 100-500mm + 2x TC
600mm
F11

Michael Clark said:

In return for selling at a lower price to places such as KEH one can have confidence they are dealing with someone who will not rip them off and claim they never received the item, then file a complaint on eBay or whatever other platform and get their money back from you without returning the camera you "sold" them for what ended up being $0.00. Selling to KEH or the like is no hassle and practically risk free, unlike selling via eBay, Craigslist, FB Marketplace, etc. where there are 99 scammers on those platforms for every 1 legit potential buyer.

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This is exactly why I rarely sell on ebay these days. KEH, Adorama (on occasion) or MPB for me.

So cute! Nicely done, P-visie.

Lovely!

Noreaster said:

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I really like the 5th one. Great shot!

Red squirrel (Sciurus vulgaris) drinking and eating a nut. Taken from a photo hide.





R5 Mk II + EF 200-400mm (top) and EF 600mm f4 II + 1.4 Extender (bottom)

dolina said:

6 years after the launch of the 2018 RF mount, from the top of my head these are the lenses Canon will likely launch

- Tilt-Shift "TS-R" Lenses (15mm / 17mm / 18mm / 20mm / 24mm / 35mm / 50mm / 55mm / 85mm / 90mm / 100mm)
- RF 200-500mm (ideally f/4L IS with 1.4x as the 500mm f/4L IS prime is missing)
- RF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS
- RF 300mm f/2.0L IS as the 100-300mm f/2.8L IS zoom is available
- RF 200mm f/1.8L IS as there are numerous 200mm f/2.0 with & without IS on dSLR & mirrorless mounts at present & in the past
- RF 180mm f/3.5L Macro
- RF-S pancake
- Super-Telephoto Zoom (200-600mm / 180-600mm / 400-800mm)
- RF 35mm f/1.2L
- RF 50–140m f/2.8 equiv

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Add the RF 400mm f2.8 and RF 600mm f4 with built in extender.

Link spot metering and partial metering to the af point.

Noreaster said:

I had a hard time uploading the files yesterday here is more

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Interestingly, I got yesterday a shot of a Eurasian Teal, which has a horizontal white stripe, compared with your America Teal that has a vertical shoulder stripe. Here it is plus a Shoveller and a very small Little Egret that came very close. I wish we had your Wood Ducks and Hooded Mergansers.

Del Paso said:

I am more than happy with the optically outstanding RF 28mm f/2,8. OK, it's not an f/1,4, but certainly better than a low-cost f/1,4 would be.
AND!!!!! I'm still hoping for an L version!

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The RF 28mm f/2.8 is good, but I'm not bringing it out for low light situations, and I'm not very fond of pancake lenses. The lens vignettes heavily at f/2.8, an aperture that would be stopping down with most prime lenses, but it is not with this one.
I'm mostly okay with software corrections, that's not my point, but I'd prefer having that level of vignette at f/1.8 or wider, and being able to stop down to f/2.8 for a cleaner image, like many lenses allow us to.

A regular 28mm, with a proper lens hood, would do. I wouldn't necessarily want f/1.4, I'd be glad with a RF 28mm f/1.8 STM, but the 45mm is setting a precedent for extremely wide apertures, so I guess one can dream. Also, it could make an amazing standard lens for APS-C users, since a RF-S 32mm f/1.4 is nowhere to be found, so I think there may be a market for a budget, but fast, 28mm, specially with a price and form factor similar to that of the 45.

As for a L-series 28mm...yeah, at this point, I doubt it.

EOS 4 Life said:

Says who?
We have no idea when they decided to kill it.

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Point made. The assumption is that, since Canon reduced investment in the line years before they announced its death, they had made the decision earlier. Since they didn't want people to stop buying a very popular cash cow, they didn't warn those people that they were buying into a dead system.

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dolina said:

6 years after the launch of the 2018 RF mount, from the top of my head these are the lenses Canon will likely launch

- Tilt-Shift "TS-R" Lenses (15mm / 17mm / 18mm / 20mm / 24mm / 35mm / 50mm / 55mm / 85mm / 90mm / 100mm)
- RF 200-500mm (ideally f/4L IS with 1.4x as the 500mm f/4L IS prime is missing)
- RF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS
- RF 300mm f/2.0L IS as the 100-300mm f/2.8L IS zoom is available
- RF 200mm f/1.8L IS as there are numerous 200mm f/2.0 with & without IS on dSLR & mirrorless mounts at present & in the past
- RF 180mm f/3.5L Macro
- RF-S pancake
- Super-Telephoto Zoom (200-600mm / 180-600mm / 400-800mm)
- RF 35mm f/1.2L
- RF 50–140m f/2.8 equiv

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Nice list, hoping for it to become a physical and "buyable" reality!

m4ndr4ke said:

Me too, the lens is okay. I don’t shoot wide open that often, so not having to carry around the corresponding weight is great. I only resort to f/2 or wider when I intend to.


There’s room for everyone to make their wishes However, if they made such lens, I guess it’d be faster, as the 45 has set the precedent of having an extremely wide aperture.


I would welcome that too, but I’m not holding my hopes up for such lens, at this point.
A cheap and fast 28 would be an easy decision to me, if it came.
Canon could make a series of “less common focal lengths” (less common for Canon, that is) with fast and affordable lenses. Let’s say, for instance, a 21mm, a 28, the 45, a 75 or a 90, a 105 — lenses that could be sold in parallel with the existing L options, without repeating focal lengths and/or apertures.

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I am more than happy with the optically outstanding RF 28mm f/2,8. OK, it's not an f/1,4, but certainly better than a low-cost f/1,4 would be.
AND!!!!! I'm still hoping for an L version!

Gino_FOTO said:

Personally, for the purposes for which fast primes are made, I am okay with the RF 45mm's performance.

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Me too, the lens is okay. I don’t shoot wide open that often, so not having to carry around the corresponding weight is great. I only resort to f/2 or wider when I intend to.

Gino_FOTO said:

For me, though, 45mm is not the focal length I prefer. I would be happy to see something three times longer; just as the 45mm is a 'reimagined' EF 50mm f/1.2L, an RF 135mm f/2 STM would be sweet as a modernization of the EF 135mm f/2L.

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There’s room for everyone to make their wishes However, if they made such lens, I guess it’d be faster, as the 45 has set the precedent of having an extremely wide aperture.

Del Paso said:

And I very happily welcome a non-budget 28mm f/1,4 or f/1,2 L !!!

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I would welcome that too, but I’m not holding my hopes up for such lens, at this point.
A cheap and fast 28 would be an easy decision to me, if it came.
Canon could make a series of “less common focal lengths” (less common for Canon, that is) with fast and affordable lenses. Let’s say, for instance, a 21mm, a 28, the 45, a 75 or a 90, a 105 — lenses that could be sold in parallel with the existing L options, without repeating focal lengths and/or apertures.

Kind of brumeliad...

Adult and immature Chestnut Munia, Japanese White Eye, female House Finch, White-rumped Shama and that's all...

SnowMiku said:

What could Canon do to get younger shooters? An R100 II with a touch screen and maybe a flip screen and the body have different colours? The only problem is they would have to make the lenses to match.

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Canon already does pretty well with younger buyers.

roby17269 said:

Canon haven't been 100% honest in the past though - same as Sony with the A mount, they kept making noises about the M mount not being dead well after the decision had been taken to kill it.

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Says who?
We have no idea when they decided to kill it.

Bob Howland said:

Craig may be right that Sigma doesn't have the factory capacity now but I think Sigma would somehow make it work even if it means adding onto their factory and hiring more people.

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Sigma is a small company.
Expanding would be no small thing.

SnowMiku said:

What could Canon do to get younger shooters? An R100 II with a touch screen and maybe a flip screen and the body have different colours? The only problem is they would have to make the lenses to match.

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Affordability and relevance to their personal lives.

Smartphones have very high utilization that many young people do not bother with laptops/desktops/TVs/radio/etc muchless a dedicated still camera.

Their cameras are more than adequate given its price-to-utlization ratio of the smartphone as a whole. Not to mention you can amortize the phone over 1-3 years depending on telco & country you're in.

Does not hurt it weighs 100-250g vs 1-2.5kg.

What could Canon do to get younger shooters? An R100 II with a touch screen and maybe a flip screen and the body have different colours? The only problem is they would have to make the lenses to match.

dolina said:

6 years after the launch of the 2018 RF mount, from the top of my head these are the lenses Canon will likely launch

- Tilt-Shift "TS-R" Lenses (15mm / 17mm / 18mm / 20mm / 24mm / 35mm / 50mm / 55mm / 85mm / 90mm / 100mm)
- RF 200-500mm (ideally f/4L IS with 1.4x as the 500mm f/4L IS prime is missing)
- RF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS
- RF 300mm f/2.0L IS as the 100-300mm f/2.8L IS zoom is available
- RF 200mm f/1.8L IS as there are numerous 200mm f/2.0 with & without IS on dSLR & mirrorless mounts at present & in the past
- RF 180mm f/3.5L Macro
- RF-S pancake
- Super-Telephoto Zoom (200-600mm / 180-600mm / 400-800mm)
- RF 35mm f/1.2L
- RF 50–140m f/2.8 equiv

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Seems like a good 10-year roadmap.

6 years after the launch of the 2018 RF mount, from the top of my head these are the lenses Canon will likely launch

- Tilt-Shift "TS-R" Lenses (15mm / 17mm / 18mm / 20mm / 24mm / 35mm / 50mm / 55mm / 85mm / 90mm / 100mm)
- RF 200-500mm (ideally f/4L IS with 1.4x as the 500mm f/4L IS prime is missing)
- RF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS
- RF 300mm f/2.0L IS as the 100-300mm f/2.8L IS zoom is available
- RF 200mm f/1.8L IS as there are numerous 200mm f/2.0 with & without IS on dSLR & mirrorless mounts at present & in the past
- RF 180mm f/3.5L Macro
- RF-S pancake
- Super-Telephoto Zoom (200-600mm / 180-600mm / 400-800mm)
- RF 35mm f/1.2L
- RF 50–140m f/2.8 equiv