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Viggo · Jan 6, 2022

BadBird said:
Have been off forum since last April when I gave up on the R5 due to consistently missed shots (small birds in trees, brush). It was on 1.3.0 - I had to revert from 1.3.1 which was much worse. I was headed to the Galapagos last September, and couldn't afford to miss most of my shots with the flakey R5, so I benched it. I'm still plowing through over 12,000 photos taken with an OM-D E-M1X and an M1 Mk III, and I don't regret the decision to go OM-D one bit.

Back to the R5: on 5 December I installed 1.5.0 on the camera, and updated the RF 100-500 to 1.1.0 at the same time, then took over 500 shots of small birds wintering in my yard over Christmas and New Years. The AF felt like it had improved over 1.3.0 (hard to be sure after not touching the R5 for 8 months), but it is still locking on the background past the bird enough to annoy me. That forces me to fight to bring it back with the manual focus ring - it still won't reliably re-focus automatically - which usually means missing the shot completely. I had a particularly bad 80-shot session with two Golden-crowned Kinglets in my post oak trees (no leaves, sun behind me) where it repeatedly locked past the birds, and eventually crashed the camera while I was trying to re-focus. The error message was unreadable (ran off the LCD to the right) and it required the usual switch off and remove the battery pack actions to revive it. Only five shots were keepers, while 65 were out of focus to varying degrees and 10 were blown by bird movement (1/500 or 1/640 at f7.1, Aperture priority and Auto-ISO).

I have to agree with many of the others posting on this thread, that even 1.5.0 has not resolved some of the AF issues on the R5. It gets wonderful images when it gets it right, but it fails to focus correctly far too often - much worse than my old 7D Mk II with EF 100-400 + 1.4, or either of my OM-D E-M1s. I hope Canon did a better job on the R3, but I don't think I'll be the one to find that out.

What did Canon say about the issue ?

R1-7D · Jan 5, 2022

koenkooi said:
On of the reviewers on youtube (Gordon, I think) mentioned that the 6k resolution is under the '4k' icon.

Do you have your camera set to HDR mode? That locks out a number of things and isn't actually related to HDR video.

This is correct: there is no "6K" icon. 6K resolution is under one of the 4K icons, as you have indicated. You will know it is 6K because the resolution will show as 6000x3164, despite having selected the 4K icon.

Bdbtoys · Jan 4, 2022

Nice... thanks for sharing. I originally had this preordered, but saw the sub requirement and backed off. Can't wait till the next video to see it work in other programs w/o the paid sub.

Chaitanya · Jan 4, 2022

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gbasilemc · Jan 4, 2022

I personally wait for a canon RF replacement for my sigma 14mm 1.8 that is great for milky way and northern lights and wouldn't be against a bigger aperture (after all, RF mount was supposed to be more adapted for that no ?)

Frodo · Jan 1, 2022

I use bluetooth in my R6 and R to connect to Canon Camera Connect on my Android phone and to the Canon bluetooth remote. With the R bluetooth function setting I have disable/enable, smartphone and remote. With the R6 I simply have enable and disable. If I wish to switch between phone and remote, I have to unpair, then pair, which is a pain as this is not necessary with the R, where I can simply select phone or remote.
Am I missing something?

Jan 1, 2022

YuengLinger said:
Does anybody else think of Cartman each time Canon announces some plans?

Filing a patent is not announcing plans.

Dec 30, 2021

gmaxwell said:
Whats the latest order date where someone has received an R3 so far?

Probably depends from where. For B&H, preorders opened at 6a on launch day, a member reported ordering at 8:45a and getting one, another reported ordering at 10a and not getting one. AFAIK, there has been only one shipment to the US. Canon USA had them in stock briefly the morning of release day, presumably from cancelled preorders.

stevelee · Dec 30, 2021

Since this thread has been revived I will update my experience. I looked at getting an M50 for my travel camera, and took another brief look at the Sony option. I decided to get the G5X II. I still wanted something that would fit in my jacket or pants pocket, and I still prioritized lens speed over long focal length. The G7X III seems to have been aimed more at vlogging, which I don’t do. The pop-up viewfinder of the new 5 is a welcome addition for shooting in bright sunlight. It is not clear enough to use for focusing, but fine for choosing composition. The diopter adjustment is too fussy, so it can take several tries to get it close enough to use. Besides having a little longer zoom (but still a fast lens), the new 5 seems to have a bit better lens otherwise.

I left for Italy in October, 2019, traveled around for over a couple weeks, and then went on a 14-night Mediterranean cruise that came back to other towns in Italy. I threw the G7X II into my bag as a backup, and wound up using it by chance on my first day in Rome, given my sleep-deprived and jet-lagged brain. It did fine, of course. After that I took over 3.000 pictures with the G5X II. I never missed having any longer focal length, and I was happy to be shooting at f/1.8 to 2.8 in dark interiors. I had some great shots of Venice by night as we sailed out, so handheld in the dark from a moving ship. One of the shots is displayed in homes in three states now.

And outdoors in the sun, I was glad to have the viewfinder.

Dec 29, 2021

koenkooi said:
It has modern electronics, which virtually always emit RF. The certification is there to ensure the emissions outside the product are low enough and/or outside protected bands (e.g. GPS, GSM, etc).

I don't know if the USM motors need hi-speed signals to drive them, but the EF pins have a relatively high frequency protocol going over them.

Agree that lenses need electronic certification. @[email protected] stated that there aren’t new lenses being registered.

[email protected] said:
Sometimes rumor sites even get ahead of themselves and wrongly assume that because it's a product number and not a lens name, it's a new lens. That doesn't appear to be the case here.

The fact that these are new SKUs suggests they are, in fact, new lenses.

Click · Dec 29, 2021

Nice shot, dpc.

SteveC · Dec 28, 2021

neuroanatomist said:
To sum up your discussion of donuts and d’oh:

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Oh, believe me I was thinking of this. I often quote Homer, and I don't mean the Greek guy.

entoman · Dec 27, 2021

SwissFrank said:
...... I went with RF instead of Nikon or Sony based on the gut feeling that over the next couple decades Canon would catch up.

My one solid fear is that Canon's lead in sales is so comprehensive, and so well-managed despite not having the best gear, that they may just get used to having good sales without being cutting edge.

Yes, this is the only real issue - Canon are a comparatively conservative company. They'd probably *claim* that their philosophy is to let other companies do the beta-testing, (and then only introduce things in Canon gear when they were satisfied they had the best and most reliable implementation), but the R5 overheating issues rather exploded that myth.

More likely is that Canon's sales success just leads them to sit on their laurels and appear complacent. The frustrating consequence for their customers is that we need a lot of patience as we wait for them to play catch-up, with new bodies and lenses. It's pretty much the opposite philosophy to Sony, who rush their latest technology out as fast as they can and thereby capture the early adopter techno-enthusiast market. Poor old Nikon meanwhile try very hard to produce class-leading cameras (and often succeed, ref D810, D850, Z9), but sadly have great difficulty convincing people to actually buy their products.

I'll probably stay with Canon for 2 reasons, a) the cost of switching is too prohibitive, and b) I prefer Canon ergonomics. But if I was rich enough to be able to afford to switch systems, I'd be very tempted by the Sony a1 and it's vast range of native glass. I'd rate Nikon and Canon about the same as far as lenses are concerned - Nikon have some lenses that I prefer to Canon nearest-equivalents, but likewise Canon score with others such as the RF 100-500mm. I'm very impressed by the specs and design of the Z9 (and the price!), but I don't like gripped bodies, so that kicks both the Z9 and the R3 into touch. Looks like I'll be staying with the R5 for another couple of years then.

Click · Dec 27, 2021

Cool shot. Nicely done, SebCoell.

jvillain · Dec 27, 2021

Dragon said:
Figuring out how it was done doesn't get you out of the patent/copyright jungle.

Copyright in code is the same as it is in text. If it isn't extremely similar the it isn't copying. Just because what it does is similar is not the same as it's code being the same. Clean room implementations of code are done all the time and are accepted even in the US. That just leaves us with the pesky patents.

Some one posted the big list of video patents a few months ago trying to make the case that software patents were enforceable all over the world because there were patents related to video codecs all over the world. I took a dive on the patents that applied to the country I live in and every single one of them applied to using the codec is conjunction with a specific hardware device often players if one form or another,. Not one of them was a software patent.

AlanF · Dec 25, 2021

bhacker said:
I have r5 pictures like that too...the point is not that such pictures are impossible, it's that they are more difficult to achieve with an r5 than with a DSLR. I interpret your cheery deflections to indicate that you have not made a serious comparison. Merry Xmas

Quite an about turn from "cannot focus reliably in most situations" to "being more difficult" in a particular situation. I don't need to make a comparison of taking photos of branches, I just reliably take photos of birds sitting among them- you can take photos of branches.

Inspired · Dec 25, 2021

entoman said:
Quite agree, as posted above. The cooling fan can be completely isolated from the rest of the camera, in just the same way that flippy screens are isolated from the main body shell. Moisture could affect the cooling fan, but I don't think there is any likelihood of ingress to the main body. Anyone with half a brain would in any case carry a clear plastic bag in their pocket to cover the camera if there was any likelihood of rain or splashing...

I'm thinking more of the the R3 weather sealing

entoman said:
Quite agree, as posted above. The cooling fan can be completely isolated from the rest of the camera, in just the same way that flippy screens are isolated from the main body shell. Moisture could affect the cooling fan, but I don't think there is any likelihood of ingress to the main body. Anyone with half a brain would in any case carry a clear plastic bag in their pocket to cover the camera if there was any likelihood of rain or splashing...

YuengLinger · Dec 24, 2021

Del Paso said:
My major EOS R criticism is about the EVF. I just dislike it, even though I really enjoy the camera. But its EVF is far inferior to the 5 DIV's OVF.
But what other forum members just have said: the R5's EVF is a game changer, it can easily stand a comparison with OVFs, plus the EVF's related advantages like sensor-focusing.

I definitely like the R5 and R6's EVFs better than an OVF. I didn't like the R's overall performance, but to me its EVF made me see how much easier consistently correct exposures are with mirrorless.

EVF's are great! Just this morning, 30 minutes after sunrise, I could take pictures of shore-birds without worrying about being blinded by the glare on the wet sand.

And it lets me decide between Exposure Simulation and what seems like night vision in lowlight. It allows me to instantly review a shot through the EVF in the harshest of light. And it shows with a very close approximation to true WYSIWYG my exposure, both for fine tuning AND for not blasting away with the wrong settings, as I used to occasionally (ok, sometimes more than occasionally) forget to change settings when light changed dramatically. It gives me a great histogram, fairly unobtrusive in most framing.

And as another member on another forum demonstrated, the EVF can be tweaked to show very close to HDR shadow recovery, and, more importantly to be fine-tuned for various vision-needs and exposure scenarios. Takes a little work, but this can be accomplished readily with Canon's Picture Style Editor.

Yes, there are the inevitable compromises of photography, such as battery life. Maybe a few people are sensitive to electronic screens, and that's hard.

Suggesting how to improve the EVF is important, and they will get better. Lamenting its replacement of the OVF is, in my opinion, misunderstanding the advantages of mirrorless cameras.

Del Paso · Dec 23, 2021

EOS 4 Life said:
How about two f/2 1800 mm for 2 billion dollars?

With a 900mm front lens diameter...
Oh, I forgot. The 1600mm Leica lens weighed 60kg or 120 pounds. The proud owner had a Mercedes G wagon customized specifically for his unique lens.
And poor me has started saving for a ridiculous little R5...

AlanF · Dec 23, 2021

Viggo said:
Hopefully it will be more successful than the 1.5.0 firmware, it has ruined my camera…

You are very unlucky. My R5 and R6 are still fine after updating to 1.5.0. Perhaps there is a problem with your motherboard?

AlanF · Dec 23, 2021

TAF said:
So, in 40 years Canon has improved their auto focus (yeah), but now has to rely on software to fix distortion that their older lenses were much better at controlling - compare this antique with an RF lens without the software correction. Can't use the modern stuff with film...

Excellent review.

Sad isn't it how Canon lenses have got worse over the years until they are now unusable with film. The rot started in the early 1990s when they introduced, following USM motors for AF, those new-fangled features like the first interchangeable superzoom, image stabilization, ultra low dispersion elements etc that have ruined modern lenses. And as for DO, what more can I say? Canon is now so ashamed of their latest monstrosities, that, as you say, they can't be used with film, so much so they have put on a new RF mount so you can't make the mistake of putting them on to a film camera.

unfocused · Dec 22, 2021

pforkes said:
This topic seems to have gone very quiet.

It is well over a year old. That is like 10 years in forum time.

AJ · Dec 22, 2021

Thanks! I'd appreciate that, @PCM-madison.
It's about to get a bit colder where I live. Not sure how much use equipment is to me when I can't use it in winter. I bought this lens for activities like skiing and hiking.

k.j.ar · Dec 22, 2021

Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that canon's would be slow to update their systems with SNs. However, that explaination makes sense since this lens has been back ordered for a while and I must have gotten a fairly fresh copy.

Thanks for your input! I was somewhat confident everything was ok but for the price of this lens i wanted to be sure.

EOS 4 Life · Dec 22, 2021

The twist turned out to be f/11 which would have been completely impractical with a DSLR.
The RF 400 f/2.8 and RF 600 f/4 are pretty much just adapted versions of their EF counterparts.

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