derpderp said:

IMHO, an APSC R camera is probably a long shot, but not unrealistic if Canon is keen to provide a one-mount solution. People buy into the M system because its compact and fairly affordable, but there's no path for them to upgrade organically since the M mount is incompatible with the RF/EF mount. An APSC R camera fills in the gap just nicely. Again, more users of the RF mount = more RF lenses being purchased = more $$ for Canon.

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Au contraire mon frère.

The EF-M cameras are perfectly compatible with EF and EF-S lenses.

pj1974 said:

I think I'd possibly get the RF 24-105mm for the R5 as a 'walk-about' combination, and go with other lenses and some primes for special purposes. The way I take photos, I don't mind adapters for specialty lenses.

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My thinking precisely. Except that Plan B, if the R5 turns out to be over 3.5-4K, is to go with the RP. I'll lose a lot of features doing so but the money saved will make it worth it. (I just can't see myself with the R6 and its mere 20mpx, and I suspect I'd really hate the R's touchbar--the R with no touchbar would be on my list of possibles if such a thing existed; a 30 mpx R6 would be, too, depending on price.)

[edit to add--one thing the RP would save me is the cost of extra batteries, as it takes the same kind of batteries two of my other cameras take, and I already have extra batteries for them.]

Mt Spokane Photography said:

While Mirrors do cause vibration, shutters should not be a issue. A poor tripod will actually amplify the vibration.

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That’s not strictly true from my experience. One extreme example would be my Pentax 67 MF. Here the shutter causes as much if not more vibration than the mirror !! At the other end of the scale the shutter on my M3 definitely caused the body to vibrate. On my 5DS, nine times out of ten I get critically ( or maybe I should say anally ) sharper images from live view than by optical, even if the focus has been set up in live view and camera on a 058. Non of these wimpy 190 and 055s
. Also I believe that early Sony A7 suffered from shutter shock.
So whilst the lightweight tripod used by the OP would have led to the shutter shock being noticed it doesn’t alter the fact that it exists.

What Canon needs is the iPhone SE in full frame mirrorless world... an entry level device with fantastic guts that will buy people into the Canon family and make them Canon loyalists for a lifetime. So Canon if you can do the R6 for $999, you'd toss Sony to the bottom of the sea in a few short years. Lots of people are still on Rebels or old A6000s and need a cheap reason to switch to Canon's superior glass portfolio. Only question is if you're the company to do it.

If Canon upped this further and did a FF $799 model... game over.

ahsanford said:

...or the R6 is some low light monster video specialist (which I think is less likely).

- A

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I think that highly likely, actually.

Extreme low light performance with IBIS just screams surveillance model. Law enforcement is always looking for better tech.

Hi guys, just to let you know that I managed to grab an open box 1DX III recently so I more than happy to answer a few questions.
Also, got a discount code for CF express cards from pro grade digital. If you want 15% off your next purchase, type in IWANTIT15
With a 1TB card, it gives you roughly 49min in raw 60fps
Cheers

koenkooi said:

Nothing in the documentation mentions that, and Canon calls the sizes differently as well

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ok, not the answer I expected, as the filter looks similar to my drop in polarizer.
Hmmm. Maybe I´ll try get an adapter on amazon and try it. if it does not work, I will send it back

SkynetTX said:

Exactly as you said. And do not forget that on the macula no "image data" is recorded. That's why the eye is unable to capture one single moment: the brain has to stitch the previously recorded images together. Therefore we don't need high megapixel sensors with small pixels. And I think it's better to have a smaller resolution sensor with a higher DLA than a higher resolution sensor with a smaller DLA.

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Actually, no--that's why we need higher resolution over a wide area.

Your eye looks at the real world with a very small, high pixel density area, and stiches it...you're right about that part.

But it cannot do that with a low-res photograph, because the actual detail isn't there to stitch together.

When you're looking at a photograph intended to represent the real world, just like looking at the real world, it's free to travel around, and wherever it lands, it expects to see high res. So it has to be there, edge to edge, or your eye won't see it on whatever part of the picture it is looking at.

R5orR6 said:

Thanks for the feedback! I'm hopefully going on a tropical trip in July and would like a newer Canon camera. Hopefully the airlines will be back up!

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I doubt that either the R5 or R6 will be available in July.

Hi,

Do you think Canon could announce a 500 5.6 like Nikon ?

TAF said:

That is the range I am expecting. Given the current economic conditions, I would hope that it would be at the lower end.

The associated question then will be how much with the RF 24-105L kit lens?

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The RF 24-105L seems to be getting some very good reviews. At $1100 currently it is probably a very good lens to pair with the upcoming R5. Hopefully if they have a kit option with the R5 the price will be less so as to be worth the kit, and probably a very good choice to get.

bhf3737 said:

minus (mirror mechanism and its driving motor)
plus (IBIS and its driving motors, heftier battery, electronic view finder, tilty-flippy screen)
overall: smaller, thinner, almost the same weight as 5D4.
Additional stuff are more on the software side and software does not add to physical weight.

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... Minus a fairly dense and not exactly tiny pentaprism that is heavier than all of the mirror and it's motor...

The images look better than what comes out of a phone camera, I don't think folks buying this in a kit with a RP will be disappointed.

I don't think anyone that visits this forum is in the target market for this lens.

My 5DS/R has served me very well indeed. I like it even more than I did the 5DII. Its also still my goto camera compared to the R.

The R5 will probably be a better camera in many ways - especially because mirrorless excels at advanced and precise AF. But also things such as touch screen, fully articulated screen, more fps if you need it etc. Still, I am going to wait for Canon's high megapix missorless camera, because I doubt that the R5 will bring visually better files to the table. For that we will have to wait a little longer.

We'dhen ate the lenses coming and which ones might be affordable?

PureClassA said:

I dont see how Canon makes a video spec machine in an RF body that beats this thing.

I mean, what... a 1:1 pixel readout (12MP like the sony a7s) but with all the same specs otherwise as the R5? Why bother?

i think Canon intended this to be the absolutely everything camera. I dont know what else you Viably could cram into a dedicated video MILC body that the R5 doesnt already sport.

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An EF mount! But don't tell anybody

SteveC said:

And how do you know he didn't invent the thing?

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I don't, but maybe the same person invented Velcro...

A lot can happen between then and now. We’ll see.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

A Canon tube came with my camera. I don't think the accuracy of the 3rd party adapters is a issue, pretty simple to make them. I've tried it with numerous lenses. The focus accuracy is pretty poor relying on the peaking, I can do much better using 5X magnification without the peaking. I also used a old mirror lens and focus accuracy using peaking was worse.

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I haven't shot it wide open so I haven't checked the focus accuracy. I'll try it at 5x or 10x magnification.

@CanonFanBoy @privatebydesign I agree. Sorry for the mix-up.

Regards
Suman

picperfect said:

nope. you brought the reference to indoor sports. I was thinking more of budget-limited birders/wildlife/zoo shooters, who often have/had a 7D series camera.



totally agree here. External hot-shoe hugging EVF would likely break off within first week of my regular use - unfortunately i do run into protruding edges and things, hurting myself and or my gear. ;-)

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Not a camera you'd lend to Jacques Clouseau.

Hi John.
This would seem to be a “feature” of all the 2 card cameras, it is something I fall foul of, I remove the CF card close the card door and then find I am reviewing / deleting card 2 med jpegs (EyeFi to phone shots) and not the raws from card 1 after I have emptied it and put it back. Now whenever I want to pull the card I pull the battery first! Might as well chuck it on charge!

Cheers, Graham.

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Ahh. Those are quite useful; thanks. While I invariably shoot with both cards, I close the door (so it does not get broken) when I have removed card 2 to download into laptop (it's easier; my Mac has an SD slot); and that is probably when it gets switched back to writing memos to card 1.

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i guess you can paint it self too

justaCanonuser said:

You are definitely not Tony Northrop I am with you, it was really hard for me to decide this year whether I should use Canon's trade-in discount to get me a 5D VI. I did it, but it was really hard for me to hand out my beloved, battered sort of war-horse 5D III. With more than 150.00 actuations it still worked nicely.

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Where can I buy this 5D Mark VI you keep mentioning? I'm still stuck two generations back with the 5D Mark IV, which is the best camera I've ever owned.

The release dates of R5 and R6 are still July and June with the normal production numbers by October.Am I wrong?