andrewtowecreative said:

They did, in the announcement video with a development member and 3 youtubers that claim they're in the "cinema" space. And there's documentation, just a single page. They don't state those times. It's something like wait 30 mins and you can use it for 4 more minutes. Something bogus like that. You're wrong to be mad at the initial reason but that after effect reason you're in the right.

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Which is the point. The extremely long artificial cool down time, which is apparently not based on actual internal temperature... at all, makes this camera unusable for video in any of the headline shooting modes. No one really cares about line skipped 4K. So while I understand that the lower quality mode continues to function, it is of little consolation.
If Canon based the overheat/recovery off of actual internal temps, there would be no issue at all. Because this camera does in truth, not overheat. I run it 8 hours straight in 4KHQ external. It warms up to it normal operating temperature and never goes beyond that. Image quality remains consistent. The body never gets hot to the touch.

Hector1970 said:

Looks impressive. Obviously trying to sell to a wide audience. In general they really did make a mess of sensor sizing naming. The use of imperial measurements in a digital era was not a good idea. I don’t know why they didn’t use area or diagonal width.

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And what's worse is it isn't even really the imperial (or US customary; the two aren't really the same in some realms like liquid measure, an imperial gallon is larger than a US gallon, so it's a distinction sometimes worth making) size of the sensor, the thing being referenced is the diameter of the vacuum tube they used to come in, which of course was larger. So even a "one inch" sensor isn't one inch.

And just to make it even worse than that, the number is expressed as a reciprocal, 1/1.8, causing people to focus on the 1.8 and even sometimes call it 1.8, and creating a backwards scale, rather than just calling it 5/9ths. (Of course this is nothing new as f numbers often omit the /, creating the perception of another backwards system where a bigger number means less.)

Back in film days when I shot only primes, 28mm was one of my most-used lenses. I was in graduate school in Dallas when I got it, and shortly thereafter my summer school class was called off for the day. I took the bus downtown and used the day to try the lens out. It was my first experience shooting with a wide-angle lens, and so it was like a revelation. I still have prints I made from the negatives I shot that day. Many years later I got a used 19mm lens and enjoyed using it, but the 28mm was still the workhorse.

These days I don't feel any need for that prime. The focal length is covered by my kit 24-105mm and my 16-35mm lens. My old prime lens was f/3.5, so I don't miss having something faster. But I can easily see the appeal for this focal length.

Codebunny said:

From the sample images that seems so, but I sadly don't have a R. I am looking at the R5 but will give a while longer to see if there are any musings of a R1. The RF 800 might be a cracker for taking on a boat out to the Isle of May where I wouldn't want to take expensive kid through fear of falling off the boat.

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Since the 800 when extended is almost all air, the boat can circle back and pick up your camera bobbing in the water when you accidentally drop it over the side.

cayenne said:

Well, it appears that B&H are shipping them out as fast as they get them, first come first server....try one there maybe?

B&H R5 Canon camera for sale

HTH,

cayenne

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I'm in Canada, altough I do buy quite a bit from B&H, a camera I will not, for starters its costing me about $200 more if I buy from the states, and secondly not sure if this is still the case but in the past Canon has not put "north america" warranty on their products but either US or Canada warranty, so if I buy from the states I am not sure Canon Canada would warranty any repairs. So for these reasons I am waiting to buy at a Canadian store.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Yes, it flashed red but not in servo. You could not easily see the black focus points in darker areas. The EVF has a white lighted focus point that turns green or blue, its much better than those black ones. You can concentrate on keeping the subject under the focus point and still see it turn green. It goes back to white if focus is lost.

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tanks!

I never downloaded the updated version, the original has a lot of strange errors, its hard to use.

lbeck said:

Curious about the exact type of AF issue you were having with the first copy?

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I probably shouldn't have even mentioned the possible issue (basically missing focus occasionally on simple scenes with lots of contrast) since I didn't fully test...it can be anything at this point, but I'm leaning toward my theory above. I mainly wanted to ask about the production dates on the lens, because the irregularities (a pretty old production date from a store that turns over stock often, plus the debris or other anomaly inside the lens).

1 hr cool down gave 9mins 7s recording....

Bdbtoys said:

I used 2 of these chargers... no high pitch noise.

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Thanks! A replacement is on its way.

I think this has been the most reasonable post about this topic I’ve seen, so thank you for keeping it sensible.

geffy said:

you have quite a storm happening in your head, i would be worried too if i had bought it but i always knew never to be first to buy and i never have.

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I have the storm in my head? I bought a camera I am happy with and am not spreading complete BS I heard from some biased internet source. I'm not worried in the slightest about my decision. I don't buy anything to be first, I buy when a tool is going to work for me. Until the R5, I always bought refurbished.

So stop trying to invent reality, whether from idle speculation, or an ego driven perspective. You have made zero arguments that hold up to any scrutiny and are proving yourself to be irrational and silly.

Got this one in the mail yesterday and picked on up. I needed the reader and the cards get decent reviews so what the heck/ Now I have 2.

To change the subject, I'm not a vlogger and don't want to become one, but I have to wonder: using only Canon equipment, how would one construct a "perfect" vlogging camera? Maybe Canon sees the M cameras partly as their entries to the vlogging world, a world for which R cameras and lenses are just too big.

They will sell it to the army to be used by bombers

The infamous Andrew...
I can't post link here without getting banned.
Try "EOSHD" under google
It's actually the same Chinese guy as last time.
There are plenty of new temperature measurement that shows that Canon did a great job at keeping all temp under control.
Just a software that time the video usage to shut it down.

alot of pyrometer

AlanF said:

We could start a Satellite thread.

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I'd be more interested in a protest but how many really care about this? It's always the same old story when it comes to "progress".

Jack

I did finally preorder the R6. I am still trying to decide 70-300 ii with adapter or rf 24-240 for some extra reach.

brad-man said:

You guys should shoot bigger subjects. You'd save a bundle on glass...

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Like a 747.

SwissFrank said:

a problem is you don't want the security camera to be so valuable that people just come in to steal the camera

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Not a problem if you mount it between remote controlled twin 50's .

WhatDoesMStandsFor said:

Yeah, the R6 does have it but it's in H265, which is a major pain in the ass to edit and not worth it in my opinion.

I prefer the 8bit file from the C200 than have to deal with the horrible H265.

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Transcode to prores or dnx. Not that hard, just takes a little extra time. When i rented an xf705 i had to do the same thing. People love to complain, sheesh. Can't wait till h266 becomes mainstream and everyone will loose their minds all over again.

Sharlin said:

Any program or library that actually follows the standard and expects filenames to be in the specified format. It is beyond 100% certain that there exists code that only considers filenames that end with exactly four digits.

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Can you name a few programs or libraries that do?

I got the same. I was hoping for better news than that. I ordered at 10:30 EDT and I’m wondering if I’ll get one before winter.

Chris.Chapterten said:

Lightroom support is now available for CR3

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Great news!