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jaell · Sep 6, 2020

Nik is great software. The Silver Efex alone is worth it (I paid $150 for the standalone Silver Efex back before Google bought Nik), and Color Efex is pretty good, and the HDREfex has some decent HDR utility. I have used the Sharpener a little, and the Denoising barely at all. Viveza is a tool that I should use more--there are some really handy uses for it--and so all in all, it's a great package.

But DxO is doing a crap job managing the software and dealing with customers. The interface is getting worse, not better. They keep changing how the pre-sets are arranged/grouped, and so it's getting harder and harder to quickly work images. And their marketing and customer service is awful. They offer a discount, and then a week later, offer a steeper discount--only to tell customers who paid the higher price that they're out of luck. They "upgrade" software and offer the upgrade at a lower price than the previous version was offered weeks before. And when you contact them, they tell you basically tough luck, their marketing department decided to do the pricing the way it is and have a hard cut-off that screws customers who have already paid.

In other words, they're prioritizing new customers over existing customers.

DxO bought the Nik Collection from Google, who bought it from Nik. So far, I have seen no indication that Google or DxO has improved upon the fantastic software that Nik created over a decade ago.

Companies like Topaz and Imagenomic are doing a much better job developing software and supporting customers. If I didn't love Silver Efex so much, DxO wouldn't get any of my money.

Maximilian · Sep 6, 2020

SecureGSM said:
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The only issue that stops me from an immediate2 x 5D4 to 2x R5 transition is: R5 retail price in Australia
5D5? I do not see this being a strong upgrade proposition for me anymore.

I have two reasons not to swap - apart from the open EVF question:

Retail price (and that thrice):
I as a hobbyist cannot justify any body beeing that expensive.
(so would be the 5D5, too, I suppose)
Availability:
Here in Germany nobody gives you a promise of delivery before mid of October, but that's change over time.
But this also means I won't get my hands on any R5 soon.

BeenThere said:
Right, and would 5D5 be less expensive if it came to fruition? Probably not.

Correct.
But depending on features it could be.

KKCFamilyman · Sep 5, 2020

I agree would be nice for the hobbyist to get an affordable 70-300 zoom that was smaller and RF mount without an adapter.

Mt Spokane Photography · Sep 5, 2020

If the camera will not start up, there is likely a short in the lens connection somewhere. If it starts up you can't take a photo, set to release the shutter without lens as noted above. All Canon DSLR's have that setting, you set it once and forget its there years later when you replace the camera.

stevelee · Sep 5, 2020

sergeyross said:
Steve, for me it's for youtube vlogging. That's a primary use case. I like the look 60fps creates and it would be published this way. I know there is an argument to be made that line skipped 4K vs "HQ" will look the same on youtube.
The other scenario I will be using the camera is for interview recording. R5 would be a better fit, obviously with unlimited 24, 30 fps modes. But I'll likely get it later as a second camera.

That’s surprising, since I would expect a talking head video to be the least demanding usage, and would expect just using a faster shutter speed would give the same soap opera look. Also, my experience is that you are lucky if YouTube’s mangling doesn‘t degrade whatever quality you had in the first place. Maybe they use different algorithms for faster frame rates or something.

Mt Spokane Photography · Sep 5, 2020

The good news is that with CR Pro, I have ZERO ads. My ad blocker showed it was not blocking ads so I disabled it. Pages load faster.

kcfp · Sep 5, 2020

Just one on order through B&H, my 5DIV will work just fine until the R5 shows up, whenever that might be.

Joules · Sep 5, 2020

Stig Nygaard said:
Handheld "nightshot" from an evening walk. Remember nothing special about the situation to mention.

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Virtually uncropped. Scaled down from 6960x4590 to 3880x2559 if you zoom into full size (So 10 megapixel-ish).
5000 ISO.

Some overall and shadow pushing in post, but nothing I haven't done often before:

CR exposure:
Overall +0.75 stop
Shadow +62 whatever-unit-it-is

Some noise reduction in both CR and PS:
CR noise:
NR 25
Detail 71
Color NR 25
PS noise:
17% NR in Smart Sharpening

I see the light dots/grains all over in shadows. Some more bright than others, but they annoy me. Look f.ex. around the standing bike or in lower part of blue sky.

Thanks a lot for sharing.

You mention using Smart Sharpening. That is a deconvolution algorithm. Those are inherently prone to introducing noise and certain visual artifacts. The noise you point out looks like what I am getting sometimes when using Smart Sharpening. I would guess that on an image that already has pixel manipulating effects like sharpening, clarity and certain kinds of NR applied, this becomes more noticeable. That would both make sense and be in line with my limited experience with the tool.

In any case I am seeing similar results with my 24 MP 80D sometimes. You are claiming this is less of an issue with the 20 MP 7D II right? I am not sure what's the proper way to apply deconvolution to a noisy image when the intent is to also downscale it (for actual use or comparison with a lower resolution sensor). Deconvolution amplifies noise. But downsampling before deconvoluting seems counter intuitve and also may apply a form of sharpening in itself (Not desireable for deconvolution) depending on the algorithm.

Interesting point for sure. But nothing I can currently spend time on experimenting with.

Mt Spokane Photography · Sep 4, 2020

The Minimum Transfer speed and the adaptive thermal management seems like a conflict to me. Thermal management slows speed down in steps as a card gets hotter.

I would certainly look for reviews and testing, hype often leaves out critical issues.

Arod820 · Sep 4, 2020

jvillain said:
I see what I wrote was went completely over your head.

It hasn’t, ask a steadicam operator what dynamic balance is.

Michael Clark · Sep 4, 2020

FrenchFry said:
Are you sure?
I am unable to test due to not owning the grip yet and my R5 being in Canon's possessed repair.

But I read in a DPReview thread this evening that the batteries are used up sequentially in the R5 grip. This user shot until their frame rate decreased, switched the position of the two batteries, and then regained the highest frame rate.

I'm sure about my "ancient" EOS DSLRs including the 5D Mark IV. I have no EOS R system cameras to test.

leadin2 · Sep 4, 2020

Mt Spokane Photography said:
Its working as it should, you set the primary card that you want to view. If one card is used for videos and the other for stills, you might want a large one for video, 128 or 256 GB while a 64 GB will probably be fine for stills. You don't need the same capacity card in both slots.

Also be aware that if you remove the primary card for some reason and close the card door, the camera will sense that there is just one card and make it primary. It should warn you when you power it up that there is only one card. But, when you install the removed card again, it will no longer be the primary card. Remove the other card close the door, and then reinstall it and the camera will change back to the other card as primary. You can do it in the settings as well.

Thanks for sharing! Will try out more to get familiar.

YuengLinger · Sep 4, 2020

zonefocus said:
Set the button to change aspect ratio. That’s what I had it set on when I discovered this. don’t select anything. Simply press and re-press And it should work for you. Love it if someone could confirm it works for them too.

Thank you. Please see my comment in the other thread with this topic--and note that the R does not have a dedicated DoF button, but the instructions are the same!

bobhowdy · Sep 4, 2020

amendegw said:
That's the decision I made. As a wildlife photographer, I considered upgrading my 1Dx II to a 1Dx III but I didn't see where I was getting that much more camera for the money. When the R5 was announced with animal eye focus and increased sensor resolution and a lower price, I placed my order. Now if it would only be shipped!

My decision to get the R5 was the same as amendegw's .... I will still have my 1DX Mark II for fast moving subjects (BIF's / Planes, etc.) The R5 for much of the rest that I shoot. As soon as I get the R5 my 5D Mark III is for sale. I should have placed my order on the original release date but I debated and analyzed the R5 purchase and did not place my order until 7/24 ... so I wait.

stevelee · Sep 3, 2020

Shooting something behind me would be cool, but the OVF wouldn’t be much help.

VisionColor · Sep 3, 2020

Sorry if this has been asked but any eta on this upcoming firmware ?

melgross · Sep 2, 2020

twoheadedboy said:
National security and classified information topics don't work that way.

Really? Are you an expert on that?

Psamathe · Sep 2, 2020

SteveC said:
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One *could* create an adapter (in either direction, though I imagine R->M would be more desirable) that used optics to alter the necessary difference, but as far as I know, no one has done this or even begun to do it.

For me, an adapter with glass is not a "problem". I appreciate there would likely be some quality loss but a big functionality gain. I'd be far happier with a Canon manufactured adapter as I'd have more confidence in communications. I assume there would need to be some software support as well so I assume/guess Canon would be doing it anyway.

(If I didn't say it (confused) it is an R (lens)->M (body) that I was asking about (as EF-M is already available).

Ian

ColinJR · Sep 2, 2020

keithcooper said:
It's difficult to say from my testing, since I do a lot of non-standard printing.

This is from initial setting up, so starting with reduced levels.
By the time I did these photos for the review I'd replaced CO, PBK and grey. Four others were flashing low (M/PM/C/Y)

That actually helps. Thanks Keith.

Justking · Sep 2, 2020

JustMeOregon said:
If you're willing to pay the "scalpers" their due, any of the adapters can be found on eBay... A couple of weeks ago I paid $165 for the basic-flavor of Canon EF to R adapter when I got tired of checking my order status at B&H 3-times-a-day... Paying a 65% premium to get-it-now may be a bit extreme (that's why I just opted for the basic adapter), but at least get to play with my stable of EF-glass on the R5 while B&H works on my backorder...
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JustMeOregon said:

If you're willing to pay the "scalpers" their due, any of the adapters can be found on eBay... A couple of weeks ago I paid $165 for the basic-flavor of Canon EF to R adapter when I got tired of checking my order status at B&H 3-times-a-day... Paying a 65% premium to get-it-now may be a bit extreme (that's why I just opted for the basic adapter), but at least get to play with my stable of EF-glass on the R5 while B&H works on my backorder...

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well the Viltrox version worked very well for me. $45 received my Canon version yesterday. Sold the Viltrox today.

john1970 · Sep 2, 2020

One from this morning with the R5:
ISO 6400 f6.3. 1/400 second

Viggo · Sep 2, 2020

I use the initial point in auto tracking and place it on a face and hit the AF-ON button to start tracking.

JayLT · Sep 1, 2020

Regarding the R5 in terms of battery life, I was out this weekend with mine at a local wetland preserve testing a couple different lens combinations and settings. I had the battery grip, with two batteries installed. I racked up 2200 shots in 2-3 hours and both batteries were still at 67-70% charge. Not as good as either of my DSLR bodies, but really not too far off either

gborislav · Sep 1, 2020

Is anyone knows when it will be available to buy?

RBS · Sep 1, 2020

Cryve said:
With this information i think the 600 f4 is the right choice for me.

I will have to save a lot for it but in a few years i will hopefully own it.

The EF 600 f4 is a great lens like its other prime siblings. Keep in mind that with this series, when used with a 1.4X the optical performance is still quite good and even a 2X works pretty well.

The first attached photo is with the EF 400 f2.8 plus 2X, the second is with the bare EF 800 f5.6 and both were taken with a 1DX III and cropped to 12% of the sensor area. You always lose IQ with a converter but with some glass the bare IQ is good enough that the results may still be acceptable with a converter and sometimes this makes sense if you need a combination of focal lengths. If 560 f4 works for you, the EF 400 f2.8 plus 1.4X makes a very high quality and fairly versatile setup. Of course DoF is very shallow with this aperture and focal length.

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