chik0240 said:

highly likely will be the case, but I for one is always preferring the OVF for non fatigue usage and that during vacation I don't need to even charge my 2 batteries in the grip more than once, with my vacation usage likely with a R camera I need to charge batteries every night which is tiring... and in fact back a few years when I went to yellow knife for aurora photography, the -30 degrees C temperature did froze up the top 5D III LCD as well as some sony A7 EVF making it barely work after an hour, I do think OVF have it advantage on that

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Well, I don't know what to say about that.
Last winter I went to take some photos at Elbow Falls, in Kananaskis, with a friend.
I had my 5D Mark IV with me and he had his Sony A7R3. We were there for the sunrise and it was a very cold day, about -34C at 7:00AM.

In about half an hour my camera's back screen froze. I could still take photos but I wasn't able to see them. Also, some of the buttons war not working properly.
My friend's Sony was fine, to my surprise!

I never had such problems with my 1DX though, no matter how cold it was. Ever!

Just posted the DPreview Review i the 'Reviews' thread. That's a lot of Reviews.

Tugela said:

That would explain it then. Americans tend to get confused about geography sometimes

You said the factory owner was in China and could not freely communicate because "big brother" was watching. Then you went on to say he is near Singapore. Singapore is a city state in Malaysia, nowhere near China. Granted, most people there are of Chinese descent, but they are not part of China.

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I missed that, he is near Shanghai, I just typed the wrong city.

Funny. Today on CR, two stories published of both an M50 and a 7DMII successor!
It's unclear if the camera mounts will be EF-M or RF, or one each.

There is only ONE lens mount capable of mounting to an APS-C camera in either EF-M or RF camera mounts and fully illuminating an APS-C sensor without the waste of EF lenses - EF-S (with adapter)! Come on guys and girls, you know it. The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS II needs to happen

And I'll sweeten the pot, just to grow continued EF-S lens support... Canon should release a 7DMIII in DSLR. All you sports and wildlife shooters are out there for hours, looking through your viewfinders, waiting for the right moment to spray and pray. So, either you'll be looking at a crappy digital LCD with low resolution and contrast, or a gorgeous LCD that saps battery life without mercy. A 7DMIII DSLR with a high pixel count APS-C sensor just makes sense. And that means an EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS II needs to happen!

BeenThere said:

+$1000.

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Terrifying but correct I guess!

I already have the the 28-70 F2 , so this lens would compliment that and my R5 when it comes , what an expensive year this is turning into lol

Running https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1264060.html through google translate provides some more info, including a table listing IS+IBIS functionality for both EF and RF.

Hi Kit,
I think I have a similar setup to you.
I have the eyepiece set so it doesn't switch the screen off. When I close the rear screen (which is most of the time), it turns off. The EVF switches on automatically when I bring my eye to the viewfinder. At first I used the touchscreen to direct the autofocus points, but now I rely firstly on eye or head tracking and secondly with the 5 controls of the "set" pad: up, down, left, right and the "set" button for centre. Although the delete button centres the AF point, using the "set" button is much more convenient.
I'm okay with this, but the ability to have a button to turn on the screen would be helpful.

I know the OP posted about flash exposure, but I'd like to have a quick rave about EOS R ambient metering. A night ago I shot the dress rehearsal for a play. Very low light (ISO 3200 and 6400 much of the time) and awful red/blue LEDs for much of the time and black walls. I used evaluative metering and facetracking (which worked remarkably well in the low light) so the focus point stayed on the subject and the exposures were on the button - the images obviously needed work in Lightroom, but the in-camera exposures were an excellent place to start. In contrast the exposures with my 5DsR taken at the same time needed considerable under exposure to stop the highlights blowing out and then had noisy shadows.
I continue to find the R an excellent event camera (apart from the single card slot, but I have a couple of work-arounds in place and planned).

Thanks for posting evidence that this camera is capable of stills photography. It's the first we've seen yet!

I hope it holds itself together w/ the EF adapter.

I just hope I have somewhere to go to use it.

SecureGSM said:

++++ This is a lens that will be free with an RP. It's a giveaway lens...
++++ This lens will meet all those needs at the lowest possible price of FREE.

A.M. : no, it won’t be given away for free. Let’s be realistic here . It will be offered at the full RRP included in kit or with a very minor discount of $50 -ish.

The RRP of the lens however:

The Canon RF 24-105mm F4-7.1 IS STM is officially priced at £459.99 / €549.99 / $399.99 in the UK, Europe and the USA respectively.

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Turns out I was right, they had a sale and gave the lens away for free with the RP... I didn't say *always* I meant during sale periods. LOL

A number of you were asking about this, so here you go:


Depending on whether you use 1/2 or 1/3 stop increments, there are two different answers. But it can be f/5.6 @ 400mm if you want it to be.

- A

Just want to say (and this is not trolling) that I did a maternity shoot over the weekend using the EOS RP and can't imagine using a camera with fewer than 26 mp from now on. I'm sure others are more skilled at framing shots on-the-fly, and hence, don't crop much in post, but I'm not, and need the flexibility to fix my compositions later.

Bless you if you can use 20 mp for your work, but for my part, I hope the R1 performs as well at high ISOs as the R6, but at 30 mp.

Able said:

In a recent review video the menu showed that the 4K HQ (downsampled 8k) had to be enabled for it to work, leading me to believe that there is “normal 4K” which potentially wouldn’t cause the camera to overheat. This could be good news for wedding videographers who shoot in hot climates.

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I think this post best explains the options for the R5 to not overheat:

privatebydesign said:

Personally I am surprised at the IQ hit the 135 takes with a 1.4TC, makes the 200 f2.8L seem even better value!

I use a 1.4TC III extensively with the TS-E 17 and TS-E 50 and there is virtually no IQ penalty with it.

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It's too bad. In another year I'll get a Tamron or Canon EF 70-200... again. With the 400mm f/5.6L being on closeout I was worried the 135L might be on the chopping block soon. I have always regretted selling my last copy (true for my past EF 35mm f/1.4L II also). I would imagine it to be still a hot seller as it is so wonderful, but one never knows. Hated to sell my RF glass, but things got real tight with everything going on. Hopefully, we'll buy a house next year and then I'll get those back. It's been months since I've done any real shooting other than the grandson.

Anyway, I'll be happy to have a 135L back in my hands in a couple of days. Thanks for the help!

BigBuddha666 said:

Pre-ordered my R5, wondering what the current opinion on media is. I am leaning towards smaller, multiple Sandisk cards. (not putting all eggs in one basket, multiple jobs)....reliable readers??

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If you are planning on shooting 8K video, there are only a couple of cards that can handle those sustained write speeds. ProGrade Cobalt cards, SanDisk Extreme Pro (512GB only) and a couple of Lexars.

If you're just going to do stills, SanDisk CFExpress or even UHSII SD should do just fine. In all the dual card slot camera's I've used, I've always used the best/fastest CF cards available at the time, then popped an SD card in the extra slot as an overflow. Rarely every ended up using the SD though. YMMV.

I've got the Prograde CFE/SD combo reader and like it. Used Hoodman for many years before that, no complaints at all.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Its not for portraits. A 85mm f/2 or f/1.2 is the best, you don't need a TC.

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Yeah i do portrait and landscape...i have 2470mkii so trying to decide if i get one 85mm or 70-200 of sigma/tamron as i have nothing beyond 70mm

Beautiful shot, Glenn.

An external recorder offloads a significant amount of processing. When you record internally, the camera's CPU must handle the realtime h.264/h.265 compression, which can be very taxing on the chip and generate a lot of heat. It's then sent to the card for writing. But when you record externally, the video stream is only encoded for HDMI which takes a fraction of the processing power of the codec compression.

What we don't know is how much of the heat is generated by those particular operations. Certainly some of it.

The challenges are that HDMI is currently limited, 4K60 is all the camera can output externally. If you want to record 8K or 4K120 you're limited to recording internally.

This will need to be tested and reported on.

Act444 said:

?? Last time I checked, mine still works...

My question is, have they gotten rid of the viewfinder and shutter lag on the new R5 and R6? Or the EVF "flash" issue? How about fluidness when tracking? AF responsiveness? As an RP owner as well, I find these to be the biggest drawbacks of the new system, and as long as they exist in some form, the 5D4 isn't going anywhere (except, perhaps, if a 5D5 with R5 specs turns up...)

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I would certainly expect the R5 to be in a different class than the RP when it comes to autofocus. The R5 could easily be the best autofocus in any camera, based of the 1DX3 (live view shooting) reviews. I'd expect a quite speedier camera (shutter lag, etc) in general.

If you prefer an OVF, there's really not a whole lot that can be done to completely remove the issues—it's just physics.

Thanks a lot.
XS-Pro7 digital was ordered today

padam said:

Canon is doing their own thing and they just don't provide a lot of features to support other companies like Atomos.
Other huge companies like Apple and Nvidia are also sharing this type of practise.

Fuji and the other camera companies are different and they have their own quirks.

You're welcome. It's still annyoing hearing all this bashing from other users regarding the R5's issues, but it is good to hear professionals about what kind of work it could be perfectly suitable for, like:

- Short Films

- Music Videos

- Commercials

- Stock Footage

- Pro Stills

- BTS

- YouTube videos

It is probably not the camera made for shooting weddings or long events, but it still has an absolutely huge range of capabilities that people suddenly seem to "forget".
And it is still small and quite light as well, unlike a Panasoinc S1H.

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I hadn't really heard the bashing of the R5, until maybe yesterday, on YouTube. People are going a bit overboard complaining about video overheating, and other things....BEFORE the camera has even gotten released, with final production systems going out for review..?!?!

Not sure why people are complaining about problems before the production versions of the camera have even been released to anyone....is there a problems before there is a camera?

Since theses are not raw format photos therefore there is that to consider. However there is normally at least some part of a jpeg that isn't so compressed. As far as Tom R's weight lifter image example the photo is rather bad even for a jpeg. As for which part that is in focus i would say the Sun and subsequent flaring. Back in the film days i used a technique called moon shadowing to cast ambiance for a scene similar to this. You wouldn't get such an over all noisy image as the one from the R5 and the point was to create stark contrasts mostly to give the feel of longer spans of time. I would have tried to give grain to the weights from just right of center and towards the right.

koenkooi said:

I'd use it for macro, e.g. solitary bees emerging from their burrow and taking flight.

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I'd love to see it. I wonder whether that would be classified as vlogging or nature videography.

They are keeping it as a secret, that's why. Maybe some time later they will add more products to the future roadmap and it will appear.
Recently they came out with a handful of telephoto lenses the RF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM should be next in line along with a nifty fifty and 2020 is complete.

So in 2021 they may continue at the wide end of things, but we really don't know.