LF Comparison of RF 28-70 f2 on R5 vs R

Looking for a review showcasing the differences of shooting the RF 28-70 f2 on a R5 vs R (bonus if R6, but really after the R5).

The closest one I could find was this, but it didn't really compare shooting with the glass on one body vs the other (it was more a simple lens review)... figured someone might get a benefit from it so sharing it...

I held off on getting this lens or the RF 24-70 f2.8 due to indecision (choice being F vs IS)... however all that changes with IBIS. Also curious as to what the increased megapixel has to offer w/ this lens.

Feel free to move this over to the lens subforum if it's better off there...

Industry News: Leica announces the Leica M10-R

The Leica M10 monochrome is a very interesting camera. Because there is no AA or Bayer filter one can get clean shots up to ISO 25000 with a 40 MP sensor. Is it a specialized tool? Yes. In the right hands the images can be stunning. Another advantage of the M system is the small form factor for the lenses and camera which makes carrying it around all day a pleasure to use. Sure you have to manually focus, but if your subject is static or slowly moving it is really not that difficult.
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Full-resolution sample images from the EOS R5, EOS R6, and the new lenses

I do like Canon zooms. The 100-400mm II has given me so many great shots, from dragonflies to bird portraits to BIF, that I would cheerfully use the R5 and 100-500mm for many purposes and the 500PF/Nikon for a prime. On our last three major birding trips (Florida, Galapagos/Ecuador and Israel), we took just the two 100-400mm IIs for the versatility and light weight and never regretted it. I know it sounds a bit wimpish, but the 400mm DO II was just above the weight I can comfortably carry on a single shoulder strap and I had to carry from straps across two shoulders. For opportunistic bird photographers who like walking with a camera over a shoulder, these light zooms and primes are godsends. The high resolution sensor cameras are part of the revolution - my 100-400mm II + 1.4xTC had better IQ than my 400mm II + 2xTC on the 5DIV, and the 500PF on the 45 Mpx D850 is a clear winner. So, the 45 Mpx on the R5 looks just right for me. With restricted travel and so few birds down here, there is no point in me buying now. But, I am really waiting for the real reviews from the knowledgeable enthusiasts on forums. If we ever get the chance to travel again, I'd take one Canon zoom and the D850/500PF.

I 'need' a light setup for my daily walk which is 3-8 KM and partially though the woods. Then I need a bigger setup for the days I know there is a good chance of foxes or there is some other animal I am after just now. I think I am also thinking both, not in the same year but on most times I have 2-3 cameras with me.
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R5 Tracking of Body face and eyes of cats dogs and birds

Based on reports from the field by those using the 1D X Mark III, turning "Human face detection" on when using the OVF already gets better results tracking birds eyes than turning it off. If Canon does issue a firmware update, it may just be adding another label in the menu for doing the same thing it's already doing without the label.
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Meike announces a 50mm f/1.2 lens for the RF mount

Considering this lens is soft wide open (of course it’s no Canon 50mm f1.2 L RF) for the size and weight (plus the lack of EXIF data, lens hood and likely de-clicked aperture) I’d much rather have a smaller and lighter lens. Bigger, heavier lenses should have better optics or what’s the point.
Fair enough but $359?
I would also withhold judgement of the IQ until we can actually judge from something other than a web video.
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Gerald Undone says R5 4K video is line skipping and not binned

The next innovation is the”Autopoint Function” that automatically points the camera at great compositions, sets exposure, and fires off a few frames. Now that will make us talented photographers. R5 MkII
Brilliant! That and the built-in hand-warmer - it sounds like my perfect camera..!
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Firmware: Canon EOS RP v1.5.0 and Canon EOS R v1.7.0

I agree. I used a Vello, after a Neweer, grip on my 6D, which was better by leaps than the Neweer, but, the BG-E22 is LEAPS above the Vello! You also get the in grip/body battery charger with it. I think Canon gets about a $100 for that separately. Has to be LP-E6N batteries to charge in the grip. I guess now with the new update, it would also charge the LP-E6NH as well.


Isn't it strange/amazing how different it feels?

Up until the point I got my first Canon grip I looked at the Vellos and thought 'this is fine - there is no way the other one is worth that much extra money.... People who buy the Canons are wasting their money'

Then I got the Canon grip and after about a second I thought 'THIS is how a grip is supposed to feel.'

It made enough of an impact on me that I ordered a Canon grip for my 5D4 to replace the Vello.

Not to mention that it doesn't make much sense to put a non-weather sealed grip on a weather sealed camera. lol.
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Preorder: Canon EOS R5, Canon EOS R6 and new lenses

Compare these pricings for Canon and Nikon in the USA, B&H; and UK, Wex. These give the lie to that Japanese companies have to charge more in the EU and UK for warranty etc . Nikon has a similar price or even less here, bearing in mind that the UK prices have 20% VAT.

Canon New RF 2xTC
B&H $599
Wex £699
Canon New RF 1.4xTC
B&H $499
Wex £559

Nikon New 2xTC
B&H $596.95
Wex £599
Nikon New 1.4xTC
B&H $566.95
Wex £549

Nikon Z5 Digital Camera with 24-50mm
B&H $1,696.95
Wex £1,719.00

The UK prices on the RF TCs are pure rip off.

Same. The RF TC is A$1340 in Australia.

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Anyone have experience with EF lenses on R series with the adapter?

From my experience with the EOS R, EF glass works absolutely perfectly and is honestly better than on EF mount cameras, like others have said. Super snappy as ever, never a problem with speed or any other issue.

On smaller lenses like the 24-70 and 35mm f/1.4, I'm not bothered by the "additional" length of the adapter(adapter takes up the same space as a DSLR would anyway, but just makes the lenses look "longer" since that space isn't built into the body). I can't anticipate myself picking up the RF 24-70 anytime soon for this reason, I'm more than happy to adapt the 24-70, plus you still get IBIS image stabilization.

That said, I just picked up the RF 70-200 though because I'm not a huge fan of how the EF 70-200 2.8 physically looks/feels on an adapter. Just looks very long and is a little front heavy, versus the absolutely tiny, well-balanced RF 70-200. I think the 70-200 2.8 is the only lens where that really is a consideration, though, because any bigger of a lens, and the adapter is totally insignificant to the lens.
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Sony strikes deal with Associated Press

You'd have to persuade me that this was the main reason for people not buying Sony, before I'd buy the idea that Sony + AP will make any meaningful difference to Sony sales.

There will be people who think about this, but I'll bet it's not a significant number of potential buyers. Most will buy whatever YouTube or the guy in the shop tells them to (if they're new to photography); otherwise the support question (which is valid, no dispute about that) will just be one part of a bigger puzzle.

And - I completely believe - hardly anyone is influenced by what camera brand a news agency uses anyway: in fact it's impossible to tell, because they always strip the Exif out of their images.

Here's something else: AP's own blog page about "why Sony?"


Completely objectively, many of those images (from the "young flamenco dancers" onwards) are properly bloody horrible.

The dancers' colours are disgusting, for example - Sony's broken colour science to the rescue again - and some of them (the fisherman and the climbers, for example) are really noisy for only 1250 and 3200 ISO.

Indeed, the long jumper is hellish noisy at 400 ISO!

The 5000 ISO hurdlers image (among others) looks hammered by NR.

And where's the much-vaunted low ISO DR advantage? Blocked shadows everywhere...

(Maybe being able to lift shadows by 5 stops to make up for a bad exposure isn't so important after all, eh? ;) )

If I was looking to buy a body, one look at that lot and I wouldn't go anywhere near a Sony. They're deeply unimpressive images.

But then - PJ isn't really about ultimate image quality, is it? Based on this collection, Sony seems to fit right in.

Fake cameras for fake news!!
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Firmware for the RF lenses on Canon UK page

Also on the USA page too... however to get to the existing lens firmware you have to go thru the product page and use the support button from there. If you try to go directly to support the lenses won't be listed (they use to be, but dropped when they added the new ones)... so can't find them that way. They are probably in the middle of fixing so this may not pertain after time.
Not on the Uk page , if you click on the link and then you click on the RF lenses in the blue line , go on the relevant lens , and follow it to firmware , you can download the Firmware straight from the page , I just did it .
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Industry News: Nikon announces the entry-level full-frame Nikon Z 5, a new lens and teleconverters

Nikon seems to live very difficult times..! From my perspective they don't have the funds to make a good competitive camera just like they did last time with D850. If they don't shake the waters a little bit at least they won't make it for very long time.

They could always drop bodies and build them S lenses for the RF mount :)
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Who else is excited for the R5/R6 just to use as a stills camera?

I'll hang onto the 2 great white primes, but all of the other Ls will be sold for updated RF formulas. My first adapter (basic model) should be arriving with the RF 50, hopefully customs does not keep it for too long.

I anticipate buying the 16-35mm f/4 (though I might splurge and get the RF zoom of that range). That plus my 100-400mm will be where my two adapters will live.
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RF 24-105 f4 on full frame v EF-S 17-55 2.8 on crop?

Hi guys. I shoot a lot of video with a 90D (80D before that and 70D before that) with a 17-55 f2.8.

I’m excited by the R6 and wondered how using it with an RF 24-105 f4 compares to what I’m used to, specifically with presenter talking to camera type stuff. I‘ve never used a full frame before and know the range matches but was wondering how the depth of field would compare?

Will being closer to the subject and the larger sensor offset losing a stop of light? It’s surprisingly hard to find mid shot portraits taken at 24m to get an idea. Lol.

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