Panasonic is going to make the SL that the Leica SL should have been. And if this camera is indeed SL mount, then the opportunity to use either Panny glass or go for high-end Leica SL lenses – or even M lenses with the native Leica M adapter is going to be nice.

I'm sure Meanstreak meant to say thanks...

Haven't you heard about Greentooth tech? C'mon bro. Get it together. Focus.

B&H and Adorama won't answer this simple question, but Abt Electronics did - it is focus by wire. I will order this for an upcoming hike, but if the manual focusing is flakey like the Sigma 70 Art, back it goes.

Or should I have low expectations for focus by wire?

Ok, I guess everywhere seems to be quoting dates close to this now, so no big secret.

I'm surprised nobody has noticed this yet, or maybe they have and everyone but me knows that it's not worth paying attention to. Amazon's preorder for the EOS R currently states "This item will be released on October 9, 2018." What does everyone make of this? Are they just pulling a date out of their ass? Everything I've heard is a vague "late October."

Also, something that's a little odd, I can't seem to find the EOS R on their site by searching within the site, only by googling it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H484HLT/?tag=canorumo-20

Edit: Something else to note... The release date that they quote changes if you choose a camera package that comes with a lens... Choosing the 50mm says it will not be released until October 25. Choosing the 35mm and the 28-70 say they will not be released until December 20. These dates seem oddly specific and very spread out to be something they just randomly came up with... I dunno.

Fuji is well known for making really good lenses and their cameras are also getting better and better.
These lenses show that Fuji is setting full strength in an APS-C pro system.
Really impressing.

found another clip, confirming Sigma lens is compatible with EOS R

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I've put my 5D4 into video mode for a few seconds, but I did not pay more for the video capability, I paid a lot less, because the higher volume of cameras sold drops the price. If the camera had no video, 2/3 of the buyers would buy something else, and the price would double.

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I have to concur. Personally, very seldom do I use video mode. I would have no problem buying a stills only cam, especially if photo quality could be improved because of it and perhaps, an accompanying lower price point. However, I agree with another poster that stated there prob would be very small demand and lots of resistance for same in the real marketplace.

Newbie here, but wouldn't an adapter with optics inside of it be able to change the focal distance of the lens, therefore a thicker adapter could be made to adapt an RF lens to the EF-M mount? Essentially it would change the flange distance of the RF lens to one that could be longer, but still concentrate light on the APS-C sensor of the EF-M sensor? It's been quite some time since I've done optics, but I think that is possible, right? If so, it would cost a few hundred dollars, which would be offputting for the casual photographer that the M series is aimed at, but for the Pros and Prosumer Amateurs out there, it would a great way to have a second body.

Keith_Reeder said:

It's clear speculation, anyway.

The notion that - of itself - simplicity will win over complexity, is fundamentally flawed: a horse and cart is a lot less complex than a modern car; and an abacus much simpler than a laptop - yet look where we are.

MILC needs a USP far more compelling than "easier to make", and it currently doesn't have it.

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It’s interesting though. When Apple came up with the Mac, people howled. Way back, I used to teach PC DOS part time, for fun. When macOS came out, people looked for the system config. files, and couldn’t find them. They would yell at how childish the computer was because they couldn’t edit them (while totally screwing up their machine, and calling me to fix it, but some people never learn). But the machine was even more complex. It hid it from the user though, which had it seeming to be simpler, and easier.

The thing is that these more modern cameras are much more complex in software and electronics. They’re even more complex than older, more mechanical models, but seem simpler. Apparent simplicity doesn’t mean operational simplicity, unfortunately, as computerized cameras, as we’ve found out, are ridiculously complex to understand, with far more “features” in the menus that most of us will ever need. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be done.

Mirrorless isn’t simpler at all. It just shifts a necessary, though the lens optical viewing to an electronic, computerized one. The first camera from Canon doesnrvhave all the features of the 5Dmk IV, as some wanted, and expected, but that’s just a particular model version thing.

3kramd5 said:

As stated above, I take that to mean sensors which are custom designed for the camera business, presumably at their expense, are exclusive. He has no authority over what products the semiconductor corporation develops and sells.

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agree.

still noisy AF...AF

Thx. We should lock this thread, then.

(how do I do that in the new system?)

- A

Yes, that'd be it.

I suspect, however, that if a full frame Canon without a crop were to emerge in six months, then no one who could actually make the speedbooster would bother, but I hope someone still does!

Canon as gone bigger (50/1.2) and smaller (35/1.8) at the same time. The R weighs 30% less than my 5D Mark III.

AlanF said:

Don't say that about Bill Claff of photonstophotos. He has shown time after time that he can get preliminary data out that are very close to his more extensive later analyses.

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i guess some are still hoping for some improvements. but it´s basically the 5D MK4 sensor.

Refurb7 said:

Thanks or that info! That might just be the crop mode that kicks in when you mount an APS-C lens. I hope it can be switched on with any lens via a function button or menu setting.

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I hope so too. This is a feature I really loved on the A7R3, though to be fair, one of the reasons I really loved it was that the RAW files coming out of that camera are gigantic, less of a problem with CR3's better compression. Still, it is nice to get an APSC shooter out of a full frame 100-400 when birding, because often, the center crop is all I want anyways.

In my personal opinion here is where I’d
rather have a filter and would rather not:

Travel/Sightseeing: Yes
Landscape/Natural scenery: No
Architecture: Yes
Event shooting: Depends, but mostly no
Portrait: No
Macro: No
Animals/birds: Yes

Ideally I’d like to see an implementation like Sony did with the RX1R II - have it be user-adjustable (or removable). Sometimes it’s nice to have, but other times, yes, I feel it can get in the way.

BillB said:

Since the system that Canon uses stabilizes one image in comparison to another, it doesn't have any effect on blur in a single frame.

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But that’s a software attribute. With dual pixels, there could be a comparison between them in a single frame, if they wanted to try that.

I'm convinced. I was looking for a deal for the 16-35 mm F/2.8. III. I realized that the deal I wanted meant I would buy the F/4.

dak723 said:

Having watched numerous videos and read a few articles as well, no one else has had any trouble with the control ring - most, in fact, love it. Aside from the comment regarding the delay in locking/unlocking the multi-function bar, which others have mentioned as well, this just sounds like the usual attempt to discredit Canon that has become so popular on the internet. In other words, the usual BS.

Thanks for posting another useless thread that does nothing but reinforce your so obvious anti-Canon bias. You have no credibility on this forum.

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Actually I don't have a problem with reviews like that - anyone can fawn over a camera and say how wonderful it is, but the reported downsides tell me more about the type of camera it is. Good reviews will pick up on ergonomic things like those reported above and address them - and if no-one else mentions them they I know it is a minor issue that one person was annoyed enough to mention. And I know what to look out for when testing it.

Add to all that, there are several sites whose opinions I will read/listen to with greater attention. And those who are interested in the things I like to shoot (heaven help those reviewers who shoot a few photos of their kid playing in the park and say they have reviewed it as a sports camera!!).

When are these cards becoming available and what's the price? That's what I want to know. I plan to switch all of my SD cards to this...as I break SD cards all the time (pins break off) and I still have a bunch of cameras that shoot with them.

Random Orbits said:

Perhaps a secondary question would be "how many people would like a photos only camera without liveview?" Liveview shares much of the processing as video, so if you're ripping out video, then liveview should go too.

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My 40D had liveview, but Video in a DSLR was long from reality, it definitely does not need the same processing or sensor either.

SIGMA 50-100mm F1.8 DC HSM | Art for SIGMA (v.1.01) and Canon

(v.2.01)This firmware corrects the phenomenon that the AF performance occasionally becomes unstable when used via SIGMA MOUNT CONVERTER MC-11.

SIGMA 100-400mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM | Contemporary for Canon (v.2.03)

This firmware improves the AF speed in certain combinations with some cameras.

Firmware update for SIGMA 150-600mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM | Sports (v.2.00) / Contemporary for Canon (v.2.00)

This firmware allows compatibility with Canon’s in-camera Lens Aberration Correction function to enable correction matching the optical characteristics of each lens*. It also corrects the phenomenon that abnormal images appear or operation errors occur when the function is enabled. This firmware also improves the AF speed in certain combinations with some cameras.


* Compatible Canon camera models: EOS-1DX Mark II, EOS 5Ds, EOS 5DsR, EOS 5D Mark IV, EOS 6D mark II, EOS 80D, EOS 8000D (EOS Rebel T6s, EOS...

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Sigma Lenses will come for the R mount. I think it is a love hate relationship between Canon and 3rd party lensmakers. On one hand, Canon does not like it that they sell lenses they coul dsell themselfs, on the other hand, they have to "allow" other companies to make lenses for their system, simply because it helps the system getting more interesting (bigger variety of lenses, also special lenses. And just imagine, Sigma (or Tamron, or Tokina) would make lenses for Sony and Nikon, but not for Canon. That would be a reason to switch the system.
I think, Sigma had to wait until they had enough information about the Nikon and Canon mount, especially flangedistance and -diameter cause this affects the optical lens design. The electronic part will be a lot of hard work reengineering it, but basically, they can keep working with the EF system, and just use this functionality at the beginning.