mistaspeedy said:

I might end up upgrading to something like the 6D or 6D mark II by the end of the year.... both those cameras will totally obliterate my ancient 1D mark II (8 megapixel from 2004), and they totally walk all over my friend's 60D as well (a camera I was considering buying a while back when I had a 20D).

We will see how much weight in my overall spending a new camera will have or not.

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They are a nice weight and size, esp compared to a 1D body. They really shine as a walk around camera that doesn't make you feel weighted down. 6400 ISO with a little bit of post processing looks very good. I ran all around Charleston, sc last summer with it from dawn shots on the Battery to all natural light shots in the museums it was fun light and had tons of battery life to spare.

Your statement about the necessity to update the EF 70-200 4.0 L IS USM "Now is not the time? Because 12 years is too early ..." is right and wrong at the same time in my opinion.

Generally there is some strong progress in a lot of areas so you are right: A lot of things which were produced 12 years ago can profit from enhancements.

On the other hand: Sometimes products are a decade ahead from their competitors and are state-of-the-art 10 years after introduction. The EF 70-200 4.0 L IS USM is maybe such a product which tops the non-IS version optically plus sports IS plus has enhanced "weather" resistance. It shows the capability of 24 MPix APS-C sensors from f/4.0 and makes the 5D classic a real 13 MPix image recording system - each pixel counts. ( I own both lenses and the IS version has replaced the non-IS so I have to sell the non-IS which was very good indeed for EOS 40D @ 10 MPix APS-C).

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MrFotoFool said:

Considering the reportedly stellar performance of the new Tamron G2 lens, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 over the Tamron option.

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The running theme so far is Tamron's new lenses are the best all-round, while Sigma are the best specifically for optical quality. There are lots of people who don't care about Sigma's less accurate AF and weaker sealing (especially studio shooters), so there is absolutely a market there.

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If Canon would update the f/4 IS it would be very attractive to many shooters. True it would cost the same as the G2...

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While not impossible to update, it'd cost them a lot and the areas they could improve are few. Transmission could certainly be better and of course the IS could be updated to quieter version... but other than that, it's basically already as good in terms of optics, AF, and build quality as you're going to get from a first-party f/4 zoom, unless they were to also up the price quite a bit.

It'll be updated eventually, of course, but now is not the time.

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Now is not the time? Because 12 years is too early yet how many on this site want a 7D3 or a 5Dsr after just a couple years? Please back up your now is not the time statement with , well, something. Coating have greatly improved, IS is light years better than in 2006, engineering plastics are much lighter and stronger. Canon will put out 9 different 70-300's yet it's absurd to dream of a followup to a lens which has had only one iteration? (I'm not including the non IS of course)

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Zeidora said:

And you get a dark view finder (-1EV) plus more noisy images (-1EV). DOA IMHO.

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Only if you accept the limitations of the laws of physics.

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Let's impeach these laws. After all, the value of pi was legislated to be 3. Why can't the law of physics be over turned :-\

Would fit in perfectly with our current political system

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I took a few seconds of video during a warmup at a play I was shooting last week, so I checked it just now, there is no little flag that says 2K or 4K, so I had to dig into the properties sizes, and saw it was 4K. The big tip off is the 3+ GB file size for just a few seconds of video.

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That’s MJPEG for you. They need to use a more efficient file format.

archiea said:

4k? 4K!?... thats so 2017.5... its 2018.1, iTs tHe yEaR of 8K!!!!!

Here's whats funny.....

I got the M5 to take pix. Folks were like "no 4K blah blah....." So they got the sony 6300 instead... then they sold it to get the sony R2.... then the sony R3 came out so guess what they got... the R3! I still have the M5 taking killer pix because its ALWAYS WITH ME. I don't think they have shot any 4K yet.

I've also hear folks that got the 4K cameras for podcasting returned the cameras in some cases and got the canon M cameras because the autofocus was more desirable and the 4K was cumbersome for editing basically talking heads on youtube.

I'm not discounting the benefits of 4K or sony cameras in general. They represent a tremendous value. What I am seeing is consumption as an inner compulsion from all of these seemingly yearly releases, including the M cameras. Its like folks contemplating getting the 5D mark V JUST because it just came out... Who could keep up?

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I'm with you but I think you're not with the right thread!

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The release of an EF-M 32mm f/0.9 IS USM would surely make mr Sandford switch from a 5DmkIII to an EOS M50!

Or angry.

The release of an EF-M 55mm f/1.8 would make me interested in the crop mirrorless line.

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I wouldn't be angry, no. Offering what any system should have -- a sharp, quick all-purpose autofocusing 50mm (FF-equivalent) prime -- is a good thing. If such a lens happens, awesome for EF-M users -- honestly.

But I just don't think Canon will put a out a screamingly fast smaller-than-FF-mount-only standard prime like Olympus or Fuji might do, as Canon has made it clear that they'd rather reserve such glass for FF mount use, they'd rather dis-incentivize people to stay in crop / not go to FF, etc.

- A

Thanks. It's a bit of a curse because everyone asks for your services and then doesn't really value it consistent with the effort it takes. That combined with my inability to say "no" and I'm hosed.
So, in an effort to get out of it, I put a team together for our Winter Series with me photographing 2 of the 11 races. Ever since having 4 volunteer commitments at one time I now automatically say "no" to every volunteer request and am always prepared with a price. I actually increased my pricing in direct correlation to my automatic "no".
In turn, I've had more than one person think I'm terrible, but they're the ones I definitely don't want to extend myself for. Many of these races are for charity and they pay for other services so why not photography. If they don't get it then I'm spared the time commitment for literally nothing in return except for a lot of hassle.
And I already do tons of charity so **** off.
I'm OK now. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
Plus, it's nice being expensive.

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For what it's worth, if moving to a 35mm body wasn't an option yet I was still putting together a kit for portraits/events where people are the focus, and getting that trendy background blur was a concern, I wouldn't try to get everything done with just one zoom. I'd get the Sigma 18-35 and a Canon 85mm f/1.4, or the Tamron 85mm f/1.8 if the Canon was out of budget. If it had to be one zoom it'd be the Tamron 24-70, though I don't care so much about wide-angle shots so YMMV.

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Good notes, Thank You. I don't have much visibility to market trends besides articles and youtube reviewer notes. It does seem like cell phones are eating the market from bottom up, but it's hard to know when a segment will wither. I do have a Tokina 11-20 f2.8. I've been dreaming of the new Tamron 100-400, so the 24-70 could be a really good fit. It's really not outlandish size compared to the 17-50 or 18-35. It'd leave me with two full frame lenses also, so it'd be easier to step across if Canon makes their mirrorless FF small enough to be tempting against the expected A7III.

Sigma 17-50 f2.8 - Tamron 24-70 f2.8 - Sigma 24-70 f2.8 - Sigma 18-35 f1.8

Toshiba and Axis are turning in excellent profits, so letting them pay off the debt early will allow Canon to be flexible in making another big purchase. I'd bet that they have several under consideration.

Hello...

I wanted to get a Canon M6 as a second camera mostly for travel, also as a second camera.

However, I have a concern: Will a Tamron 28-300mm lens work with a Canon M6 camera with M Mount Adapter? Any issue with the autofocus?

Thanks for your answers.

i think that 100L is also pretty interesting to be on the list

P.S. Coma performance is pretty much standard Sigma. At f/1.4 expect some wings and stretching on star towards the edges of the frame. Stopped down there's some improvement.

P.S.S. Having to do manual focus focus by wire to properly focus on stars is a pain!

When it first IPOed I told people on message boards to stay away from it or else get in, take a profit, and then get out quick. Many argued with me. Some poor person bought it at $93.70! It's what happens when you invest in 'cool' instead of 'smart.'

Orangutan said:

Aglet seemed to be saying that Canon uses its position to bamboozle the consumer with marketing, and would otherwise fail.

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Canon has indeed bamboozled me, though not with marketing. Out of about 8 bodies that I've bought, 6-7 L lenses, 10+ non-L lenses, a few of P&S and non-interchangeable lens cameras, printers, and a whole bunch of accessories, not a single piece has had even the tiniest problem.

The only Canon-related gear problem I've ever had an issue with are canon extenders + Sigma 150-600, which worked at for a long time and stopped working properly after Sigma did a firmware upgrade (spoiler: it works with Sigma extenders now, lol -- but I'm too cheap to buy an extender for ONE lens that's also f/6.3, especially since that extender doesn't work for most other Sigma lenses). But being the sucker that I am, I haven't blamed Canon

So yeah, they've got me pretty much accepting as a fact that my next bodies and lenses and accessories from them will be trouble-free, and just let me enjoy taking pictures of stuff. Neat trick they pulled on me.

I guess, also, over the years, they've also pretty much bamboozled me into thinking that I just have to shoot more, experiment, and learn, to get a just a little better each year, when really, it's not that at all. If I were more open minded, I'd accept that lighting and composition are myths. I'd run out and buy something that would let me toss out my flashes and strobes and softboxes and filters and gels and reflectors and grids and tripods -- Because all I should really need to do is just hold down the shutter button and turn everything into perfect photos in Lightroom.

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EdMarra said:

Current Rig:
7D with a Tamron 70-200 F2.8

I shoot college football and soccer games for fun and share photos with the athletes and parents. Games are mostly day. I want to upgrade and use 7D as a secondary. I don't sell my stuff so budget is an issue. I buy used and looking at either a 1D Mark IV or 7D Mark II for $1K. Also a Tamron 150-600 F5-6.3 G2. Thinking is the 1D has better ISO so the higher F on the lens would not be as much an issue?

Any suggestions?

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The 1D4 is a wonderful camera and in some features is better than the 7D2 but I found that by ISO 800 I was getting shots that were a bit noisy especially when I wanted to crop. Never owned the 7D2.

Jack

I certainly hope they do go all out. The 7d2 is a great camera with a couple of issues that if addressed will make it's successor on of the best cameras there is.

I am waiting the next price drop on Canon C200 to buy it. In the meanwhile i hope that canon release C100 mk iii with 1080p 60p 10bits 4.2.2. The C200 is to expensive and heavy for most people. Also i love the C300 mk ii for 1080p work in 10bits, gives great color and grades beautifull. Canon does release video crippled products to protect their higher end models. I don't need one expensive camera even if it does raw. I need 2 cameras and that ads up, lenses, bateries, so more profit for Canon. When a camera is to expensive to buy you consider other options. In 2020 when Sony and Panasonic have DPAF Canon is in big trouble. I see Sony sell more cameras because they are inovating.

^Basically all that, and also because production is already well versed for a few common focal lengths. The reason 50mm became the 'standard' focal length, despite a mathematical standard being more like 43mm, is simply because Leica and Zeiss both set up production for 50mm (they already had lenses around the 40mm mark, and 50mm for them was intended to be a 'secondary' standard, much like 35mm is) and it just so happened that workers, machines, and whole production line which were used to make those 50mms ended up being moved to/used by other companies, too, and it was cheaper for those companies to keep the 50mm lenses coming than to reconfigure for a more proper standard. Thus 50mm completely took over as the standard focal length.

For 100mm, it's much the same story. 100-110mm was often adapted to 35mm from medium format (where it was more like a 35-50mm equivalent, depending on the MF in question), and 100mm (or thereabouts) was the portrait length for decades. It wasn't really until the late 70s that 85mm started to pick up steam, and it wasn't until the late 80s that it equalled 100mm in popularity. As 35mm format was used more and more for magazine shoots, which required cropping, the slightly wider 85mm picked up in popularity and by the mid-90s 85mm was 'the' portrait length... but production was still set up for 100mm. It takes a long time to get factories to move on and to get designers used to prioritising new focal lengths. That's why even in the early 90s, when it was starting to look like 85mm would take over from 100mm in popularity, Canon still designed and released the 100mm f/2 before the 85mm f/1.8, and based the 85 on the 100's design. It was becoming clear 85mm would be the bigger deal, but it was cheaper and quicker for them to get 100mm sorted and out the door, first, and then use that to kickstart the 85mm afterward.

These days it's less about physical production and more about the ease of design (as mb66energy says, lenses around this length are often the easiest and best-corrected designs) as well as the designer's familiarity with the lengths. That will change as the older generation of designers retire and younger engineers come up.

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Don Haines said:

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Mt Spokane Photography said:

Of course, any camera can do it be shooting off a burst of shots and then combining them in post, but a designed in feature is nice.

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I don't believe this is correct. To gain the extra resolution, they are using a very precise pixle shift, by moving the sensor. If I read your suggestion, you would only get a number of identical images.

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Olympus does it by a series of sensor shifts of precisely 1/2 pixel in the X and Y plane, and combining the shots in-camera. It needs to be on a VERY steady tripod to work. Firing off a burst is not the same.

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No, it’s not the same, but MtSpokane is correct in that it gets similar results. It’s just a whole lot longer and trickier. You take a burst, pull the images to photoshop, upscale 400%, align, and average. May not be as good as pixel shifting, but pretty close. Actually a good deal more versatile as one doesn’t need a rock solid tripod for it to work. As much as I dislike this site normally, here’s an article that gets the gist of it: https://petapixel.com/2015/02/21/a-practical-guide-to-creating-superresolution-photos-with-photoshop/

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Thanks for sharing a link to this article. I appreciate learning. It is amazing what type of functionalities are being incorporated into camera's now! We live in a great time to be involved in this hobby (for me), profession for many others here.

I agree with hendrik-sg. This is not an inspiring review. There is not much about tilt and shift itself. And the sample pictures definitely tell that the reviewer doesn't really know what to do with this lens.

Here is a link to newest Canon's Tilt shift lens from ephotozine:
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/canon-ts-e-90mm-f-2-8l-macro-review-31858

Thanks for the comments and feedback, Talys, Click, drjlo and BeenThere, also Maximilian. Seems that the new 400 DO f4 IS ii is enjoying a better reputation online than its predecessors, and its well deserved. We are hoping that Canon keep producing more fixed telephoto DO lenses as the more compact form and lighter weight are very important for my wife and I who travel a lot by air

jolyonralph said:

Cthulhu said:

This is cheap because it's lower quality/speed. Might be enough for 1dxmk2 requirements, but will drop frames if used with a pro video camera. Some cfast cards are no faster than a cf card.

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That's a CFast 1 card, not a CFast 2.0 card.

It may still be faster than the equivalent Compact Flash card though.

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I'm pretty clueless on memory but the Transend CFX600 128 GB I bought really cheap does 4K60 when it wasn't supposed to so maybe there is a fair amount of variation. It was a better deal than a fast CF and faster, I'm sure.

Jack

Can't wait for this lens to start appearing in used market. I bought both 17 TSE and 24 MkII. TSE used for about 70% of retail price (excellent condition, trusted retailer, 6 month warranty). I hope for something similar with this one in the future.