About 115,000. I got the 5Ds and have barely used it since then, so it might well be sold before it goes much higher...

Ebrahim Saadawi said:

scyrene said:

melbournite said:

Sure, you can shoot at a lower resolution, but do you have to then advise your client that you’re not shooting at full resolution? For that reason, I can stick with the MkIII, then I am always shooting at full resolution 22mp.

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This is interesting... I've never shot commercially like that, but do clients really know or care? Do they even know what model of camera you use? Don't you have a portfolio of work, and they pick a photographer based on that/reputation, and then if the pics you provide are what they want, it's all good? I mean, I know many submitted images for competitions and magazines have restrictions on resolution and dpi, but I've never heard that it has anything to do with the original resolution of the base image... I mean, what if you regularly crop?

I'm genuinely intriged what pros have to say about this.

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Yes I've never heard of anyone getting puposely asked to choose L instead of M or Small. If you shoot 5D at MRaw (5040x3360- 18-ish mp) noone is going to know or bother you. I think?!

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You’re right, no-one asks for S, M or L but they do ask if they will be provided with the high resolution images. In my quotes I state that the full resolution will be up to 22mp (from the 5DIII, allowing for crop).

So technically speaking, should you offer a client different prices for shooting at 18mp as opposed to 30mp (assuming the option is from the same camera 5DIV) and/or should you state it?

I’ve always shot at the highest resolution available and no doubt I will be with the 5DIV if I get it. Funny thing is, that if I owned and was shooting with the 1DXII then I would be handing the client the highest resolution at 20mp. But it’s too big for me and besides, I don’t need 14fps.

I too am interested to hear what other pros have to say on this.

That does not explain the 40%+ saving that I made on my 7D2 - which I paid VAT on. All it shows is that Canon USA are fleecing their customers nearly as much as Canon UK. Some other Canon importers are not so there is no reason that Canon UK should. Other brands are equally or even more guilty.

A small comfort I suppose?

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tron said:

StudentOfLight said:

I'm interested to see how good mRAW looks. At about 17MP it is pretty close to what a couple of pro sports shooters were using just a few months ago in the 1DX and D4s. I suspect that mRAW would deepen buffer significantly and if the quality is not compromised then perhaps that is the way to go.

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Depends on how it makes it. If it creates first a RAW and then converts is to mRAW we are out of luck. Otherwise this is an interesting idea to extend buffer length.

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I might be wrong, but I was under the impression that the bottleneck was the memory card writing speed.

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Now that I read it again I understand that I didn't express it correctly. Of course the bottleneck is the memory I was just worrying about processing delays that could pose another bottleneck before write but these must be negligible...

[email protected] said:

Not Upgrades:
- There has been no mention of the linking between metering and focus point, a 1-series longtime favorite. You'll have to pony up another $3k to own that small subroutine in software.

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Specifications from Canon USA confirm that spot metering is only done in the center of the frame:

Sharlin said:

Michael Clark said:

So now that the announcement has been made and the feature list released, can you tell us exactly which feature it was to which your source was referring?

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Isn't it pretty obvious that it's the DPRAW?

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I was just musing about the apparent difference between how Nikon presents their specs i.e. extreme high ISO capability of the D5 compared to Canon's more restrained and caveatted DPRAW (of course it may be useless, but I doubt that). That's one reason why many of us feel that what comes from Canon is probably going to be more positively received in the long term, such as the initial griping about the stupid useless 6D and its ultimate success.

Jack

WOOOOOO, that price tag for the 16-35 III is hefty. I guess I'll keep my mark II version a little longer, after all, I guess the limiting factor in photos I take with this lens is anyway: MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE

East Wind Photography said:

I wish the 7d2 would let you program a button for single shot silent to high speed drive mode. I guess I need to get a 1dx for that function.

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Just forget it. The 1Dx is a real machine gun. You will hear it from far. Also 1DxII is still loud compared with 5D3 or 7D2.

Sanity prevails -- he found the same $130 55-250 canon store refurb deal and just pulled the trigger.

Thanks, all.

- A

Re: EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III & EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USD Pricing

CanonFanBoy said:

nightscape123 said:

StoneColdCoffee said:

@ Dustin Abbott

Hopefully you already have your Canon 16-35 f/2.8 Mk III ;-)

will you be comparing it against the Mk II and Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 ?
I love the Tamron but you know the issues around size, weight and no filters can be daunting, however I love the Corner sharpness and the ease at which the purple color fringing can be corrected. But $1000 vs $ 2200, that's huge, Hopefully you can answer the question in everyone's mind: Is it a lens that is $1200 BETTER than Tamron or Nikon 14-24 w/adapter. (especially for Landscape Astrophotography)

looking forward to your review

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This is pretty much where i'm at now. The Tamron is amazing but can't use filters and is a little heavy. Can the canon really offer $1200 in value over the Tamron? I would say that is pretty unlikely but I wait to be awed or for the price to drop. If it is too expensive then they will have no choice but to cut the price like they did for the 24/70 f/4.

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I have the Tamron and it is a very fine lens. I like the heaviness. It is a beast. It can use filters, just not the kind that screw onto the lens. There are kits out there and can be bought for approximately the difference between the two lenses. In that neighborhood anyway. If I were a landscape shooter I think I would rather have those plate filters anyway instead of the screw on filters.

That said, if the quality and sharpness is much improved above the 16-35 f/2.8L II then I will get the III. Maybe not in the next couple of years, but I will get it.

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Yeah the price will go down with time. The 100-400 II started at 2200 as well. You can get it refurbished on sale for 1500 if you're quick and 1800 new. I'll wait a year and if it's as good as it looks i'll sell my tamron and get this one at a lower price point.

I've been using one of these for years.
I use it mainly for real estate and product photography, but it is heavy to lug around.
Manfrotto now have a new geared head made from polycarbonate which is much lighter in weight.

I've been trying to find one to have a look at, but no-one in Sydney has one in stock for me to try.

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rfdesigner said:

Well today my 2nd flash turned up while I was out buying a flash stand, mount thingy and modifier.

after working out how to get a basic single off camera flash going my daughter came indoors asking for more water for the paddling pool.. she got her water but not until she'd paid my randsom of a spot of modelling.

WOW!!! this is a HUGE leg up on my photography. Stuff L glass, off camera flash rocks!

I'm going to have a wonderful bank holiday weekend mucking about with my new gear.

thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

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Haha, ever read my signature

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I don't think there's much arguing with that!

EDIT:

Just completed session 1.. classic angles with the softbox, without the softbox, close, far, dual flash, rear lit.. lots of fun. Just as well the subject was placid...



My next camera gear will be drop-cloths relectors and gels.

Semantics.

The 5D IV is not the fastest, or slowest. It is not the highest resolution or lowest. It compromises on all issues and meets in the middle.

Other bodies are either the fastest or highest resolution.

The dreaded car analogy, when I was younger I wanted a fast car or a jacked up 4x4. I settled for a 5D IV because with kids I couldn't afford to buy a 5Ds R and a 1Dx II.

dufflover said:

For people wondering I found one setting that was bringing it down a lot; the Safety Shift custom function if set in "ISO" mode. Putting that to Av/Tv put the displayed buffer up to 15 shots (also 15 if Off). Not sure which setting will give me the extra 1 for 16, but I'll take the improvement.

Wonder what the last one could be ...

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I think the number is just a worst-case guestimate. If ISO safety shift is enabled, the camera seems to use ISO 12800 as input for the number calculation instead of the actual ISO used. And the card speed does not seem to go into the calculatio. Even with a relatively slow card, my 70D still gives me 16 shots RAW in fast burst mode (a fast card might give you one or two more, though), even though it displays only 12 with ISO safety shift and 15 without.

Answering in the spirit of OP's question, the 80D. As there is one feature a mirrorless camera by definition, will not have. And that is an optical viewfinder. It might be possible to create a hybrid dslr with a liveview function in the ovf with mirror flipped up, but the converse is not possible with a mirrorless.
Coming from the 60D, I've only wanted my (camera) body to be larger, never smaller. So I might go so far as saying I'd take it all in a 5D IV package.

Now, this all stands until a mirrorless camera is released with real advantages over a DSLR.

Re: Unbelievable? 5D4 dual pixel raw..

Yeah my bad, I just realised it when I looked again, sorry folks.

The AF module and point availability with different optics is probably identical to the 1DXII. Like with the previous generation, what the flagship model gives you is more processor cycles available for faster and possibly more sophisticated AF (keeping up with the 2x FPS), plus more power from the bigger battery to drive the AF motors of big heavy lenses faster.

Not that it means anything, but I noticed B&H have allowed the XC10 to run out of stock. As have Amazon. Hmmm...

A small and SHORT correction.

It is weird how close the 5D4 is to the first 1Dx. A few people even said they will buy 1Dx2 only because of the price of Canon 5D4. In EU it costs aorund 4300 euro. Strictly for early adopters and rich kids. They will normalize it back for the holidays beginning with the EU Black Friday.

PhotoCat said:

12) HDR video... idea from ML??

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This is an awesome feature. The example they gave us looked really good!

neuroanatomist said:

ajfotofilmagem said:

Sharlin said:

Even though Canon's EF-S lenses won't physically fit, the 1.7x crop factor means you can use all sorts of nice third-party crop lenses with the 5D4 when shooting 4K

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The annoying thing, is that all your lenses 24mm no longer wide angle.

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Yeah, but a Sigma 8-16mm will cover the 4K part of the sensor and be wider than a 14mm lens (on FF).

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I thought I would not live long enough to see the day when our friend Neuro would recommend third-party lenses ...

Same question, same answer. Yes.

But the differences will be modest.

Your type so shooting is what the 5DSR was made for, it will give you higher IQ at the same output size but not at the per pixel level because the pixels are so much smaller and tech truthfully hasn't moved far between the 1DS MkIII and the 5DSR.

For the same print size the 5DSR will return higher IQ. The 5DMkIV will almost certainly follow the 1DXMkII and offer more DR and better color than the 1DSMkIII as well as a healthy resolution increase.

For most people these differences will not amount to much, for a self admitted anal retentive the differences will be huge.

Personally in your specific shooting situation I'd recommend looking at the Nikon D810 and Micro-Nikkor 200 f4, if the majority of my shooting was as your example, in that case the Nikon would be the way I'd go.

http://www.photographyblog.com/previews/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv_photos/

"...Please note that these images were shot by a Beta sample of the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV. They have also been resized to 90% of the original 30.4 megapixel image at Canon's request...."

And official ones from Canon: http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk4/

Bryan Carnathan (The Digital Picture) provides an image quality between the old (original) and new version of the Samyang 14mm f/2.8


http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1059&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=769&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0


It looks like the new version is sharper in the center and corner and a tad less sharp in mid-frame compared to the old version
It seems to have less vignetting
It looks like it has a little more distortion


Hope to get some field experience