The_Shadow_Knows said:

Hi, trying to decide which one of these combo of lenses would be better to complete my landscape set. I upgraded to a 5DII and a 70-300L so my full frame camera and telephoto portion is well covered. I sold my remaining gears and saved enough to buy either one of these 2 lens combo to complete my 3 lens landscape set.

I would love to have both the 24-70L II and the Zeiss but it is way over my budget. I have to sub in a cheaper lens with either one of these 2 great lenses to fit within my $2800-$2900 budget.

If you were to choose between these 2 sets, which one would you choose and why?

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You could buy

24mm 1.4L II
50mm 1.4
135 f/2L

for that kind of monies. Just a thought. ;D

peederj said:

Oh and btw I did see the USPS is banning international shipment of LI-ion batteries after blaming two fatal cargo plane crashes on it since 2005. But I am skeptical both of that analysis and the motivations. I'm not sure they have real evidence what started fires on those planes. And why wouldn't we then ban it domestically too, planes are OK if they fall on our houses?

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Transportation safety investigations are pretty darn thorough when it comes to investigating causes of an aircraft crash.
Also, if you've never seen the ferocity of a lithium battery fire, you may want to check it out. Likely a few posted on youtube.
Larger Li batteries contain enough energy to easily burn/melt their way thru the thinner metals of an aircraft. Altho it's unlikely they'd cause a structural failure, it's entirely possibly they could cause a control problem either by directly damaging control systems or generating enough smoke to incapacitate a crew by igniting other materials in the cargo section, often lots of paper and wood crates/pallets in there.


here's a quick one:

the little CR123 Li battery, often used in photo accessories makes like a tiny incendiary when damaged

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG_UuPmLO1c

just search for "lithium fire" for more

peederj said:

I can imagine this shipping ban as being essentially an import tariff on Chinese electronics. Taking the postal service out of the delivery equation may be protectionist for US-based retailers (who will buy from distributors using bulk shipping containers) over those guys on ebay from Shenzen who mail you stuff cheaply. That's what that ban may be about, it was just something the gov't could come up with that the Chinese couldn't nail them for. (Then getting taken seriously and scaring people into carrying on their batteries rather than checking them in the hold? Good grief. :-\)

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agreed, it does effect an indirect import tariff of sorts on those products.

Your additional points on the Hahnel made me think of one more plus. You can also use it to start and stop video. On the Mark III I set the shutter release up to start and stop video and have used the Hahnel to start and stop video using the continuous mode.

I understand your thought process. But the lenses on PowerShots are extremely short focal length lenses. A focus limiter on a large 100mm lens makes sense. It makes no sense on a 5.2-26mm lens (PowerShot S100) for example. I think it's an example of Canon not being able to rethink the way they've done things forever. I hope enough people that find it completely unnecessary will let Canon know - harness the power of the web!

Phantom309 said:

Earlier when I downloaded the updated manual, it had the COPY watermark on all the pages. But, after updating Adobe Reader just now, the COPY watermarks are gone.

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Yip that's it. Acrobat on my Android phone has watermarks, and so does pdfexpert on the iPad.

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expatinasia said:

xROELOFx said:

Bombsight said:

Good question ... but you can safely bet the best work from a 1DX wont be seen until it gets in the hands of an American!

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pffff, come on. like if no one else can make good photo's! america is not sacred. why should another part of the world wait longer to get the camera?

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Haha! Come on the guy is obviously joking. Tongue in cheek humour it is called.

What I do not understand is why the OP decided to expand from the 1D X has arrived in India, to questioning how Canon is treating the US. Almost as if he wants to cause trouble. Would have been much better to just have a thread about India. No need for the "America" comment.

The 1D X has arrived in India great, just as it has in numerous other countries.

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yeah, i guess you're right i need another coffee!

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Thank you, Expatinasia.
Maybe you have had too much coffee already, xROELOFx? ???

I got a rayflash ring flash a little while ago and have been using it for these sorts of things it's actually pretty good on the 580 on camera for direct fill flashing, highly mobile and easy to take off in a hurry to go to bounce flash insteadquite portable and i made up a little braket that can attach to my L bracket and use radio triggers if i want to mix it with off camera flash and the odins since the hotshoe takes the odin transmitter

I ordered one today from Crutchfield, looking for all the discounts I could muster. I ordered the kit with the 24-105. The price was $4,299, free shipping, no sales tax. I signed up with a crutchfield account which gave me 5% cash back ($215) to spend at Crutchfied at another time (does not expire). I also linked to Crutchfield through ebates which gets me 2.5% cash back ($107.50). Finally a made the purchase with my Amex card which doubles the warranty on the purchase and gives me another 1% reward ($43.00). In sum the camera will be $4,299-365.50= $3,933.50 and I have a two year warranty.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I bought a cheap 7E last week justfor the lenses. I played with the eye control, it was difficult to get all the points accurately calibrated, but when I did, it worked well. Then, I put on my glasses ... nothing. I guess working with glasses is too much to hope for.

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I know the EOS 3 has 3 different 'users' to set up for the eye-control, so you can have 1 as your normal eye, 2 as your other eye or with glasses on, and 3 for your assistant (those example from the manual).
Does the 7E have different users, or just one? It might be worth clearing the memory and running Cal a few times with glasses, just to see how well it picks it up.

I'm still impressed with mine, it's rather cold here these days (like it's 12C *inside* when I get up in the mornings), I put the camera to my eye, and the eyepiece fogs almost instantly from body heat. Eye-control AF still works through the fog though, because it's infrared.
So I can AF on stuff and pull the trigger without even knowing what i'm taking or framing properly or anything.
(Just like most people who upload to facebook these days. Bam.)

I love my 580's but they will be replaced eventually. Perhaps when the 440EX-RT is released and is an affordable option for RT strobist work. 8)

LetTheRightLensIn said:

RLPhoto said:

This lens is good and all, but I just dont see a solid purpose besides video.

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Sharp corner to corner (or so one would hope ;D) landscape lens for FF at less cost than 24 1.4 II or 24-70 II (or 24 T&S II while also being a bit more quick and ready than that one) that also has IS so, for the times, when you don't want constant tripod work slowing you down and becoming a bother you can still get some nice snaps along the way?

Anyway that is what I'd look to it for.

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17-40L is more of a landscape lens that this prime for about the same $$$.

Of course it fits. I have one.

Me: Hi, any update on EOS 1D X deliveries?

B&H rep: ...I will be glad to assist you. Please give me a few moments to begin working on your inquiry.

Me: Ok, thank you.

B&H rep: There is a shipment on the way to B&H, it will arrive after the 4th of July holiday

Me: Excellent news! Can you give me any idea if my place in the pre-order queue is high enough that it's likely I'll get one from this shipment?

B&H rep: Sure will

Me: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[quote author=Canon USA]
Affected products that exhibit this phenomenon will be repaired free of charge, regardless of the warranty status, if it is confirmed that the lens error has been caused by disconnection of the part inside the lens. However, please note that affected products which are received by Canon after their service period ends (the period during which such products are expected to be serviceable), will no longer be eligible for free repair service and will be handled in accordance with Canon's then general repair standards and regulations
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So...how long does Canon deem the 'service period' of a PowerShot S100?

tron said:

IIIHobbs said:

tron said:

I do have the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II
It is very useful to get rid of these converging verticals if you are into architecture (including shooting archaelogical places). Up to now I have not used the tilt feature.
In addition it is very sharp with practically no vignetting.
So if someone has no need of very open apertures and does not care of AF the TS-E is much better value for money

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Appreciate the recommendation for the TS Lens, I recognize that they are very good at what they do. As for the comment about "better value" I do not get it.

• The 24 f1.4 is $1600, the 24TS f3.5 is $2000.

• The 24TS f3.5 is very sharp with practically no vignetting, the 24 f1.4 shot at 3.5 is amazingly sharp with practically no vignetting.

I have the 24 f1.4 in hand at the moment and will be testing this weekend. Initial feel and few shots I took right out of the box at 11P last night were, very impressive to say the least.

After the unboxing last night I am still confident that the 24 f1.4 is going to end up replacing my 16-35 f2.8II; so much so that I already took the photos for the eBay listing of the 16-35 f2.8II. We shall soon see.

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it all depends on whether you need the 24mm at 1.4 to 2 often (and in that cases it will not be extra sharp and without vignetting...) vs. the 24mm with the capability to correct converging verticals (this is my mostly used application), stiching, and tilting.

If your needs fall in the first case very well you have made the best choice. If your needs fall in the second case now or in the future you will have to pay 2000 in addition to the 1600 you paid now...

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That being said Iwould be interested in 24mm 1.4L II if it had less vignetting wide open (for astrophotography). I do not like the idea to have to correct that much vignetting in PP. Maybe the next (III) version...

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pdirestajr said:

The old 24mm f/2.8 is an amazingly sharp lens, even on FF. Not sure why I would pay THAT much for an upgrade. USM & IS aren't really a priority at 24mm.

Not sure why the old lens doesn't get much love.

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Even on APS-C, my tamron 28-75 and 17-50 and even the kit 18-55 IS (although with some other aspects worse) were sharper than the old 24 2.8 prime. My copy, at least, didn't seem to do so well for shooting distant landscapes crisply corner to corner.

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I understand that the 24 and 28 2.8 lenses are old and newer sharper lenses do exist but an apple to apples comparison wouldn't hurt. 28mm are not 24mm so the tamron 28-75 is out of the equation. Now I do not believe that the mentioned 17-50 and 18-55 lenses can be put on a FF camera. So I assume that you have put the 24 2.8 old prime on your APS-C camera and even there you had not crisp corners...

JPlendPhoto said:

I want to go full frame sometime this year and it looks like I’ll be going for the 5D Mark II because of the price. I currently have 3 lenses, 17-40mm f/4 L, 70-200mm f/4 L and 50mm f/1.8. I was wondering if anybody has had experience in using these lenses on the 5D Mark II and has anyone used the 17-40mm as a general purpose lens? I would rather get something like the 24-70mm or 24-105mm as a general purpose lens, but because of a tight budget, for now I will have to stick with the 3 lenses I have.

Thanks very much!

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I find 40mm much too wide for "general purpose". My choice of the lenses you have would be the 50 (it's a "portrait lens" on APS-C but more of a general purpose lens on FF), followed by the 70-200 (I shoot portraits a lot, so "a general purpose zoom" to me includes the 85-135 range)

It depends a lot on what you shoot though. If you shoot wide a lot (25mm or less on APS-C), 17-40 might work.

Does it happen if you set the camera in M mode 1/125s using normal shutter mode and ISO 100?

rifz said:

if you set C3 to high speed multi frame, AI servo, auto iso, etc.(spray & pray mode) then if something suddenly happens ie: seeing a famous person or a wild animal etc, then you can just rotate the dial as far as it goes and you are ready to shoot. 8)

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That's the point of using custom settings and makes your life easier

M249 said:

To save R&D costs. Why not re-use bodies, AF-systems, sensors etc?

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They already are re-using many parts like the digic and af system on the 1dx/5d3. But concerning your suggestions, many people won't want a "crippled" camera body, no matter what it is capable of. It might be standard practice on cpus to disable working cores, but releasing a 5d3b (b for "beggar") would not be appreciated at $2500.

Most people want marketing and not a lego assembly box camera system, they want to have their products to have a distinct image like "flagship" yadayadayada...

Figured it out, sorry 8)

I've discovered an odd issue with my GP-E2 in the last week. As I was reviewing shots taken today I'm finding that it looses it's mind when I shoot indoor for any period of time. Today, the first group of shots I took showed the location based on when I entered the building but then at some point during the hour I was inside it started recording the location data for a location in China. External shots before going in and after coming out we're accurate.

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neuroanatomist said:

With static subjects, I use One Shot. With my 5DII, I almost always use One Shot because of the disappointing results I get with AI Servo, regardless of lens. On my 7D, if there's movement or expected movement, I use AI Servo. Shooting with my 85mm f/1.2L II on the 7D in AI Servo, several times with young daughter running diagonally toward me, I got about 8 of 10 shots in crisp, eyelash-counting focus despite the 'ponderous' AF of the 85L..

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what focus mode ddo you use? zone? spot? i havent had such great results using spot and trying to maintain tracking of a persons eye walking towards me

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Depending on the subject, either AF point expansion (the + pattern with 4 supplemental points on the 7D) for subjects I can track pretty well in the VF, or Auto selection (where in AI Servo, you designate the starting point for tracking and it then uses all 19 as needed to keep a lock) for very erratically moving subjects.

Spot AF doesn't work well for moving subjects (IIRC, one of Canon's technical write-ups advises against it, as well).

te4o said:

I don't understand why people always claim that on the 5D3 the metering does not follow the AF point achieving focus or pre-selected to achieve focus. Of course the camera meters at this AF point as long as you use it in evaluative mode. It's at the bottom of page 171 of the manual and I can confirm that.

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Let's be clear, though. Evaluative metering is linked to the AF point selected (by you or the camera), but evaluative metering is not the same as spot metering. Evaluative metering looks at all zones, and compares the luminance (and for some metering sensors, two-color or RGB color values) readings to a stored database of pre-programmed scenarios. The final meter reading is weighted toward the AF point (degree of weighting is unknown and almost certainly variable), but the final reading comes from the whole scene. That means a large bright or dark portion of the scene, or a subject that has a very different luminance that the rest of the scene can throw off the metering for the subject. Spot metering ignores the rest of the scene, and when linked to the AF point as it is on 1-series bodies, is very useful.

The classic example is a bird flying across a blue sky - evaluative metering, despite a 'linked' AF point right on the subject, will give you a silhouette every time.

Hitting the info button should cycle through the different screen overlays, one has audio levels and pretty much all the settings, another has the same + Histogram, same + audio levels, one is blank, and one has just the basic metering/shutter speed/ISO. But I dont think you should have to hit the * button, that's set AE Lock by default.

The difference is tremendous, it'll feel like your 5Dc didn't even have AF compared to the 5DIII. Low light performance is much better, and there are just so many little features that make it an awesome camera. On the same note, the 85LII is a friggin' awesome lens, stunningly sharp and the bokeh is out of the world. I'd say the only problem you're going to run into is having to send one of them back after the demo, since they are both awesome products.

But honestly I think you'll get more out of a new body than a new lens, the 5DIII is really a huge step up from the 5Dc. The 85 is nice, but I think you would end up using a new body much, much more.