psolberg, why do you keep reawakening the thread with the same hysterics over and over?
go buy a dedicated video camera and find some peace in your life.

syder said:

Seriously, on what planet would a dedicated video camera which costs more than twice as much be inferior to a hybrid device? Whining that a DSLR isn't better than a FS700 makes about as much sense as whining that a FS700 isn't better than an Alexa or an Epic.

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syder said:

If you want results, go buy a camera and stop whining on the Internet. If you think a gh2 is an amazing camera, great: go buy one. If you think a FS700 fits your needs: great, go buy one. If you expect any manufacture to suddenly release a DSLR which will outperform video cameras which cost several times as much in every situation, put down the crackpipe and come back to reality.

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kidnaper said:

Amazon currently has the G1x for sale for $730 shipped. I think that's a pretty good price,

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How? Amazon persistently inflate their prices and give scattered arbitrary service on e-sales. "Free shipping" is not always a bargain. Especially with items like Canon cameras that must be imported from Asia in the first place.
Currently you can buy a G1X on the Net for around $600 in HK and Australia. Postal charges at about $50 and global warranty can make the purchase overseas of what is an overseas manufactured item more attractive than buying through the megalith Amazon.
As for size and convenience, you're right the G1X is a bit larger than the G12 . And if you don't want superior images, far better light capture with substantially less signal noise, but prefer small file email images and snapshot monitor viewing or small machine prints only, then the G12 is easier.
Even simpler, why not simply use your smart-phone 8MP camera?
On the other hand, if you want something closer to Leica quality in 'rangefinder' style size digiwhizz then the Fuji X100 beats the Canons hands down for just another couple hundred dollars. That's street price, NOT Amazon or inflated eBay price.
However, whatever gives you joy is the camera you should choose.
-tdb

RLPhoto said:

bdunbar79 said:

You know I was thinking, since I've become such a 50mm junkie, just because I might get the macro lens, to have 4 of the lenses. However, I don't think I have the wallet to buy the f/1.0L! I saw a copy on ebay for $4999!

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At one time I was considering buy a Canon 7 With the dream machine 50mm F/0.95 off evil bay. Its so awesome. 8)

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Wow. Funny thing is, you can find that stuff on ebay surprisingly easily!

https://vimeo.com/45723741

MarkWebbPhoto said:

I have been browsing around for more 1DX samples just to get an idea of what to expect with high ISO settings...I'm rather disappointed with the number of people who have claimed to have received the 1DX and haven't posted a single photo.

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Some images posted, ISO 4000 and ISO 12800.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8070.0

Thanks all for looking and for taking the time and trouble to reply! I don't really record my settings but it was probably f8 and auto shutter speed with a half stop to a stop overexposure - these are my standard settings...

Regarding detail in the figures, well it is a tiny pic here on the web, but seen enlarged on my monitor or printer large there is more detail...such is life with posting on the web, its but only a fraction of the 'real' quality...

Regards,

Ivan

At this point in time, these are my findings regarding STM:
- slower focus than USM
- continous AF possibly in video, but not really smooth, compared to a little training and doing it manually
- lower noise, but still noise audible when using continuos AF, manual is still better for STM when noise is crucial
- good for ad hoc AF videos or travel videos, so at the current stage I do not think its of interest for pro video but rather for entry level (which does not mean, that we don't see STM capability on an entry FF in the future)

I personally do not think we'll see a L lense with STM anytime soon, for my taste, normal focus is noticably slower with STM than USM (non video). I believe though that Canon will add these feature to all future Cams...
A pity that they did not introduce it with the 5D3 already

Videoshooter said:

I also am kind of dissapointed that the new one does away with the reverse zoom mechanism - when combined with a lens hood, this feature was the next-best-thing to an internal zoom. In wet weather (which we've had a lot of here lately) the hood keeps the inner barrel dry, which prevents potential disasters!

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++++++ Exactly my thoughts!

High dynamic range imaging
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High dynamic Range Imaging
(HDRI or just HDR) is a set of methods used in
imaging and photography, to allow a
greater dynamic range between the lightest and
darkest areas of an image than current standard
digital imaging methods or photographic methods.
This wide dynamic range allows HDR images to
represent more accurately the range of intensity
levels found in real scenes, ranging from direct
sunlight to faint starlight, and is often captured by
way of a plurality of differently exposed pictures
of the same subject matter.

In simpler terms, HDR is a range of methods to
provide higher dynamic range from the imaging
process.

How it works:
Non-HDR cameras take pictures at one exposure
level with a limited contrast range. This results in
the loss of detail in bright or dark areas of a picture,
depending on whether the camera had a low or high
exposure setting. HDR compensates for this loss of
detail by taking multiple pictures at different exposure
levels .....




...and intelligently stitching them
together to produce a picture that
is representative in both dark and
bright areas.

HDR is also commonly used to refer
to display of images derived from
HDR imaging in a way that
exaggerates contrast for
artistic effect.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/firaq/girl-hdr.jpg

The two main sources of HDR images are
computer renderings and merging of multiple
low-dynamic-range (LDR) or
standard-dynamic-range (SDR)
photographs.

Tone mapping methods, which reduce overall
contrast to facilitate display of HDR images on
devices with lower dynamic range, can be applied
to produce images with preserved or exaggerated
local contrast for artistic effect.

Thanks to Canon Rumors for creating a HDR
section for the HDR enthusiasts.

Remember, it's supposed to be over exposed,
washed out, bleeding color, blurry, etc. etc.

Anyone can be
a critic, only a
few dare to be
the artists.



Google Image Search Results / Example are:











Peace! 8)

Re: Odds & Ends: 70D, 7D2, New Full Frame, D600 & Photoshop CS6

where is 70d？

Razor2012 said:

elflord said:

With a hobby shooter however, they are free to deliver as many or few images as they like, and usually have the access to their subjects that eliminates the need to work quickly. I'll add that I generally deliver much fewer images than the number most pro photographers would be required to deliver.

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It all depends on the situation you are shooting. I'm no pro but shooting something like a concert or dance recital, you have no time to change lenses, it's just bang-bang or you've missed the shot. A good zoom does have it's purpose.

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There is definitely room for both.

I usually have 2 bodies, one with zoom, one with prime.

An example might be the 70-200 f/2.8II and the 135/f/2 or 200 f/2

Thanks Bosman! It's my favourite lens I own now, plus my girlfriend is back from England tomorrow so I'll finally have a willing model for some photos

xps said:

I talked to our photographers. They took the still shots in one of our studios. With the same lens, using an professional lightning system or the aviable light (that did not change).
They will decide, whether they return all Cameras and make an switch back to Nikon, or they call for an "calibration" that every camera has the same quality. Before we bought the Camera, the representative of Canon spoke about an high quality, calibrated professional product. Afterwards they told us, that we have to accept an "little" gap of quality.
I´ll try to get an sample shot. The noise differs, like you take one shot with 400 ISO, the second one with 25000.... The worst MKIII produces noise, so @800 an black wall changes to an colorful pattern.
As I was one of the persons, that looking for that we buy Canon, I´m very disappointed.

In my opinion, its a shame, that Canon is not able to deliver cameras without an quality gap for business customers.

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The problem is that Nikon is just as bad, only it is like pulling teeth to get one fixed.

Sometimes you can't win.

Hi Syder,

My comment was directed at Caps18 not the original poster. The context is clear from the entire thread.

In the round of the discussion it's all 'what ifs' and 'buts'.

I don't think it's harsh to insist on doing the job right or not doing it at all.

Managing expectations. I deal with this all the time. Video is reasonably easy. Audio will screw up more productions than any video. At a wedding audio is important. If thats not the advice folk want, then fine.
Don't ask for advice.

I don't really want to get into a verbal with anybody. It's a broad church. Different ways to the same goals.

My posts detail the way I would do it and the reasons why.

The OP and anybody since is at liberty to follow or ignore my advice.

The NTG-2 runs plenty hot to keep in camera levels in trim, but works best through a balanced cable, which the EOS DSLRs do not accept out the box..

I use a Sennheiser K6/ME66 and Rode NTG2 with a beachtek DXA-5Da. Plenty hot from internal AA. My ECM-77s are not hot enough.

Looking for a manufacturer of a camera case for a rebel size body with a batery grip and moderate size lens. Does anyone know of any links to such a vendor????

thanks

Bosman said:

Let me tell you who is at fault, me. As much as i want to keep this to myself, i'll explain what happened. I named the two 32gig cards i bought so when i plug them into the computer i saw something like SanDisk 32g cf 1,SanDisk 32g cf 2. I thought since it is high end memory there wouldn't be issues. Wrong.
By the way it took a little more than a month and multiple times contacting them before i got the replacements, and interesting, they no longer have a gold stripe but a silver one on the CF. They are still extreme pro 32gig but silver. Either that indicates new ones are coming out and these older ones are silver or this is how they tell the new batch of cf cards with new memory...I don't know, just a guess.

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Naming them might do it, Canon looks for their own name. However, I've popped Nikon Cards into a Canon Camera and vice versa, and formatting merely renamed them to meet the Camera specs.
You can run a chkdisk on a card to see if it finds any bad sectors (Windows). it will check every block, so it takes several minutes. That does confirm the integrity of the card.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

You can cause a camera to do strange things with bad exposures. I've never seen the black band, but have no idea as to your processing. It could indeed be a issue if it occurs in a properly exposed image

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The samples I posted were 50% crops from out of camera RAW files, no processing. The images they are from were properly exposed.

This one was ISO 5000, f/2, 1/60 sec, no processing other than crop / resize:

Thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately this hasn't helped just yet.I tried controlling the print first by photoshop, but the print came out even darker still. When I tried to set to printer manages colors, it would only allow one canon profile (Canon IJ Color Printer Profile 2005). Then, guess what, I ran out of ink.

n0iZe said:

RLPhoto said:

The 50L is a superb lens but its overkill for video. Its meant for high speed stills but you wont notice the difference in video. Get the 50mm 1.4 canon

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+1
You really won't need the 50L, it's a great lens, sure. But that single step won't make difference. Also, if you would've ever tried to focus even with the 50mm f/1.4 USM at wide open aperture, you'd realize how insane f/1.2 would be. And for video even worse!
I would also consider the 50mm f/1.8, although it's made out of plastic, optically it's superb! Some do even say that the f/1.8 is superior to the f/1.4. I don't think so, but they're really close together in points of IQ and sharpness.

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Focussing with the 50/f1.4 wide open is fine... Just get a z-finder/lcdvf so that you can see what you're doing.

Focussing with the 50/f1.8 wide open is horrible. The miniscule tensionless focus ring with minimal travel is a nightmare for accurate focus pulling. It really isn't an appropriate lens for video unless you absolutely cannot afford the 50/1.4

The 50/1.2 is nice, but overkill for your needs. The 1/2 stop is actually quite a big difference in extreme low light, but that isn't what you're doing.

As everyone else has said though, based on what you've suggested your usage is, a dedicated camcorder would be a better choice.

People haven't mentioned extras, which are a must for DSLR cinematography - Z-finder, variable ND filters, external mic, external sound recorder, some kind of support rig etc - with something like a sony Z7/panasonic HVX200 the only one of those you'd need to consider would be a shotgun mic (and even then the sound that comes with those cameras is miles ahead of what you get out of a dslr).

Look at the Rebel T3 package - it's 12 meg image (more than enough up to 16X20"), the kit lens 18-55, a 55-250, and a 13X19 printer
(the ipf9000 for about $600. You can add either the 85mm f1.8 or 100mm f2.8 for less that $500 and still have a thousand and change
for a flash, studio lights, backdrop, tripod, bag, various filters (ND & polarizing for sure) and other unexpected expenses. Don't rush into
full frame - just increases the costs with no relative image quality benefits for the stuff you want to do. While the hardware is "sexy",
your best tool for image quality may well be photoshop and various add-in packages (onone, efx, others) Unfortunately, all digital images,
no matter what camera you use is only the starting point for great photographs. Good luck.

Prices usually go up a notch right after the rebates end. With the world in tough economic times, that might not happen.

expatinasia said:

Great link thanks.

You would think though that a company that deals with image-related products - both stills and video - would be able to embed videos that work in all browsers!

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You wouldn't think so if you actually lived in Japan.

Daniel Flather said:

The real question is this: Why has Canon left crop users in the cold by not releasing a "normal" prime in an ef-s mount? Buying an ef 24, 28, or 35mm lens to substitute a "normal" on a crop body is stupid. You'll have a close to normal focal length, but you'll have a wide angle perspective.

Fail.

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Your concept of perspective is flawed I'm afraid. A 30mm EF lens would have exactly the same perspective as a 30mm EF-S lens if they were both mounted on crop sensor cameras.

trentchau said:

RichATL said:

trentchau said:

Metering and White balance shouldn't matter in a studio Environment.

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And this is what is wrong with the world of photography today...
Congratulations on being the poster child for the "Lazy Digital Generation"

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We are probably miscommunicating here. They don't matter in a studio environment because

1) You meter yourself. You are using Manual mode.

2) White balance is either 3200k for tungsten or around there or 5500 for flash. If you are shooting off that, you are smart enough to know what it is. Why fix it in raw when you can get it done right in camera.

So using your cameras auto metering and white balance is not required in studio. It's a controlled environment that you as the photographer fully control.

What I said actually should be lauded by you rather than you saying it's lazy time . Make sense?

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I completely agree! I once met a photographer who spent 7 hours doing a fashion shoot with two amateur models and ended up taking over 8 gigs worth of raw images and spent a week editing the images to narrow them down to just 4 half decent images. And when she asked me for my opinion, I asked her why she didn't spend more time prepping her subjects, makeup, posing, lighting...etc..etc...this way she would've had nearly a finished image right out of the camera.

And her response to me was - it's digital, it's not like i'm wasting film.

My next question set her off - So...you would prefer not to learn your craft as a photographer? In that case my grandma who knows next to nothing about photography could take poor pictures and take them to a digital artist to make them decent again...right?

What's funny is that she started yelling at me and the other studio photographer about how she knows people that were never studio trained that take wonderful pictures.

And I told her...that's great for them, however, this studio has a reputation for amazing photographs that are not left up to a hit and miss style...so if you'd like to continue shooting here, you're going to need to learn a few basics. She stormed off.

Sorry for the long story...