How long does it take to assemble a "preproduction" camera body?

With all this never heard of and exciting 7d2 news on CR </sarcasm> I wonder about one thing: How long does it take for Canon to assemble a "pre-production" camera body or lens - and what is this anyway? Near production or held together by super glue? And are Canon parts so compatible they can just stick together all parts at will, or do the components need month of fine-tuning and adjustment to work?

Bottom line of the question is: Do the existence of "pre-production" models mean anything concerning a release, or are they as worthless as the patents that are posted on CR every once in a while?

Split up RSS feeds in "rumors" and "other stuff"

Hi,

I'd like to suggest to split up the RSS feeds as suggested.
I don't care too much about offers, anniversaries of Canon gear, reviews and many more rumors-unrelated stuff.

I don't say they should not be posted, as probably there are a lot of people out there who are happy to read about offers for SD Cards or a 6D+Lens bundle, but for me, personally, these are not the reasons I visit canonrumors.com or what I'm interested in when I subscribe to the rss feed...

What do you guys think? Do you like the idea of splitting up at least the feeds in "rumors" and "other stuff" (everyone is encouraged to propose a better naming ;-))?

Best

Review: Sigma 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS

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Bryan over at <a href="http://www.the-digital-picture.com" target="_blank">the-digital-picture</a> has completed his review of the Sigma 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS lens. While Sigma has been releasing a lot of segment leaders in terms of image quality and pricing, this superzoom offers nothing the others out there already do. While it’s as good as other superzoom lenses and is priced quite well, it’s not a stellar lens optically. That being said, we’d probably take this lens over the Canon offering.</p>
<p><strong>From TDP

</strong><em><span style="color: #222222;">“While the Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM C Lens has an excellent range of focal lengths in a small, lightweight package that doesn’t hurt the wallet, I have trouble getting excited about the image quality this lens and any of the other superzooms deliver. Everyone has their own values, and with this lens, Sigma is targeting those placing a high value on convenience and budget. The Sigma 18-200 C is one of the best choices among the APS-C superzooms.”</span></em><strong>

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<p><strong><a href="http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-18-200mm-f-3.5-6.3-DC-Macro-OS-HSM-Lens.aspx" target="_blank">Read the full review</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1023565-REG/sigma_885_101_18_200mm_f_3_5_6_3_dc_macro.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Sigma 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
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Canon Camera Museum Posts Technical Reports for EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM.

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<p><span style="color: #000000;">The Canon Camera Museum has released the <a href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/" target="_blank">technical reports</a> for the new Canon EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM lenses.</span></p>
<p>It’s very good reading, and we’re looking forward to the new EF 16-35 f/4L IS, which should start shipping in the coming weeks.</p>
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<li class="no_arr"><strong><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t01">EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM</a></strong></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t01">Development objectives</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t02">Feature 1 – Excellent image quality and suitable for movie recording too</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t03">Feature 2 – Image stabilizer</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t04">Feature 3 – STM and a compact, lightweight form factor</a></li>
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<li class="no_arr"><strong><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t05">EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM</a></strong></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t05">Development objectives</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t06">Feature 1 – Excellent image quality at all zoom positions and in all areas of the frame</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t07">Feature 2 – Image stabilizer</a></li>
<li><a style="color: #003399;" href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/tech/report/2014/06/#t08">Feature 3 – Improved usability in addition to reliability and durability</a></li>
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<p><strong>Preorder the Canon EF 16-35 f/4L IS $1199:</strong> <a style="color: #900000;" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K8942SO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00K8942SO&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20&linkId=6AVWEQKBYJ7TXPHU" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <strong><a style="color: #900000;" href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1051475-USA/canon_9518b002_ef_16_35mm_f_4l_is.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a></strong> | <a style="color: #900000;" href="http://adorama.evyy.net/c/60085/51926/1036?u=http://www.adorama.com/CA16354.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></p>
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Canon Marks the 25th Anniversary of the EOS-1 Camera

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<p><span style="color: #222222;">TOKYO, June 10, 2014—Canon Inc. today commemorated the 25th anniversary of the EOS-1 series, the flagship-model lineup of the Company’s EOS series of interchangeable-lens cameras, which debuted in 1989.</span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;">In 1987, Canon launched EOS, the world’s first AF (autofocus) single-lens reflex camera to employ a fully electronic mount system, using electrical signals to control such functions as autofocusing and aperture adjustment. Two years later, in 1989, the Company introduced the top-of-the-line professional-model EOS-1. Created to satisfy the advanced demands of professional photographers, the camera marked the inaugural model of Canon’s EOS-1 series. Based on the EOS concept of delivering automated performance in accordance with the will of the user, the EOS-1 featured cutting-edge technologies, class-leading levels of performance, high durability, robustness and reliability.</span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;">In 1994, as a growing number of professional photographers were making use of the autofocusing capabilities offered by cameras, Canon launched the EOS-1N, featuring an increased number of focusing points and increased predictive focusing when tracking moving subjects. Additionally, in 2000, the Company introduced the EOS-1V, equipped with 45-point high-density Area AF, which contributed to high-speed predictive AF of up to 9 frames per second. In this way, Canon has consistently launched flagship-model SLR cameras designed to satisfy the demands of professionals in step with the changing times.</span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;">Upon entering the digital era, Canon launched its first flagship-model professional digital SLR camera—the EOS-1D—in 2001, followed in 2002 by the EOS-1Ds, equipped with a full-frame 35mm sensor. Since then, the Company has reinforced its product lineup through efforts targeting enhanced image quality and continuous shooting performance.</span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;">In June 2012, Canon released the EOS-1D X, its latest flagship pro-model digital SLR camera, marking the EOS-1 series’ 13th model since the launch of the original EOS-1. The 1D X has garnered strong acclaim from professionals working in a wide range of fields, from photojournalism and sports coverage to commercial and nature photography.</span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"> </span><br style="color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;">Through the introduction of its powerful flagship-model EOS-1 series, incorporating cutting-edge technologies, and the expansion of these technologies and the functions they make possible, even to entry-level models, Canon continues aiming to enhance the value of its product lineup. In addition to its robust camera lineup, Canon contributes to developing the culture of photographic and video imaging though its efforts to fulfill the diverse needs of users.</span></p>
<p><strong>Canon EOS-1D X Body: <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574981434&toolid=10001&campid=5337241362&customid=&icep_item=301209507748&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" target="_blank">$4999 ebay</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/827036-REG/Canon_5253B002_EOS_1D_X_EOS_Digital.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">$6799 B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
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Family Holiday To Florida

Hi,

First post for me so be gentle!
I am off on a family holiday to Florida soon. I want to get some good photos when over there but dont want o carry around too much gear. I have a 7d and a number of lenses:

Canon 15-85mm
Canon 100mmL IS
Canon 70-200mm F4 IS
Sigma 18-35mm F1.8

It was clear to me that i should just take the 15-85mm with me until i purchased a new Canon 24-105mm off of ebay for £360 (white box). It was just too much of abargain to not buy!
I may go full frame in the future but have no current plans.

I am now thinking of taking the Sigma and the 24-105mm and maybe just sell the 15-85mm. I'm guessing i wont miss the 15-17mm end of the 15-85mm lens in a Florida theme park type trip. Any views? Would you ditch the 15-85mm?

thanks

Reach and the inverted bell curve

I was thinking about this the other day and I thought I would go ahead and write it down just in case I feel like referencing it one day. For the purposes of pricing, I'm using figures below retail... maybe there is a sale... maybe a rebate... but I could never image paying full price on anything. Also, I'm not considering the price of the bodies... since there are some cheap crop and full frame options... I'll leave the ratios respective of the lens and the sensor type.

My first set of lenses were the kit, 18-55, and the much maligned (and deservedly so) 75-300mm. On my XS, a crop body, that gave me an effective reach for 480mm give or take. @ the bargain basement price of $100, I got a whole 4.8mm per dollar... oh... and all the blurry photos I wanted. It was a buffet of blur...

Then I elected to give up some reach in favor of the Canon 55-250mm IS. The images were better... variable aperture doesn't really come into play with this discussion, but all in all it was a solid lens. Again, on a crop body, my reach was 400mm give or take. @ the time, the lens cost around $170, so the mm/$ ratio is 2.35mm/$. MM's are starting to get expensive in this game of reach.

Eventually I upgraded my body to another crop body... so it is a push. But then I kept pushing the image quality barrier... and low and behold, a 70-200mm f/4L USM shows up @ my door. Now I'm at 320mm and a ratio of .533mm/$. Outrageous. I then played the game of climb the ladder with the 70-200's and while my reach wasn't changed, my ratio went from .533 to .246 to finally .145mm/$.

Then I upgrade from crop to full frame bring my reach to a paltry 200mm and a ratio of .0909mm/$.

Here's where things started to go the other direction... Losing all that reach either compels you to buy a new lens, maybe a fast prime... or in my case I bought a teleconvertor, 1.4x. Now I'm rocking 280mm and a ratio of .107mm/$. The reach is increasing an amazingly so is the ratio. I personally don't have a 2x teleconvertor... but if I did, then we are at 400mm and .154mm/$.

So what's the moral... I think it is simple. Reach is cheap in the beginning... but when you come out the other end you'll have to pay dearly for it.

Canon 6D refurb - Stuck pixels on video.

Picked up a Canon 6D Refurb from Canon last November. I'm just back from a trip and noticed that I've got 2 stuck pixels (one red, one blue) near the center upper left quadrant - But only when shooting video and only in darker lighting conditions (pure black seems to cause them to turn off...) I've not seen them in any of my photos yet. Looking back through videos I took on a trip in May shows just the red stuck pixel (which I hadn't noticed before). Looking all the way back to when I first got the camera I don't see any stuck pixels under similar lighting conditions.

Does this fall under a warranty repair?

What's Next for Cinema EOS?

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<p>After a weekend at Cine Gear 2014 in Los Angeles, it became apparent to me that we won’t be seeing any replacements to the EOS C100, EOS C300 or EOS C500 anytime soon. We were told that the EOS C300 is selling “extremely well” and that the EOS C100 is also selling “better than expected”. The EOS C500 is a bit different and isn’t quite as popular as Canon had hoped, but it could be that the camera is in no mans land as far as price/performance and what people are using $20,000 cameras for.</p>
<p>I did get the impression that Canon does plan to be aggressive in the “A camera” space and will take direct aim at the king ARRI. I’m hypothesizing this point, but after talking to various people, I get the feeling that Canon is serious about clawing its way into the professional, large budget cinema market. With the consumer space in photography shrinking, it does make sense to put resources into new markets for growth.</p>
<p>I don’t think we’ll see any Cinema EOS announcements until next April at NAB 2015.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1040919-REG/canon_7428b002_eos_c100_cinema_eos.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon EOS C100</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/839220-REG/Canon_5779B002_C300_Cinema_EOS_Camcorder.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon EOS C300</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/855975-REG/Canon_EOS_C500_Cinema_EOS.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon EOS C500</a></strong></p>
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CR DeathMatch: DR, High ISO, Big MP, SoNikFuji, EVILs, IS, USM vs. STM, etc.

With all of the flame wars of late, I think we should have one thread to battle it all out for ultimate CR forum superiority. There's only two rules - try to back up what you say with evidence or examples, and nothing so bad that you get the thread locked... I'll start things off:

1. Are 18 Megapixels enough?

2. Why do we need more than 12 stops of DR?

3. What ISO setting will we need to take pictures on a new moon night? Do we really need anything better than the 1D X / 6D?

4. When will mirrorless camera take over? Bonus: When will they pass the Turing test???

5. Assuming Sony, Nikon, or Fuji had the same lens selection as Canon, and money was no issue, would you switch? Why?

6. Is IS necessary on wide angle lenses? Do you even use IS on your lenses?

7. What's better, USM or STM?

8. Should DSLRs have video or is just a waste of R&D & money?

9. Is DxOMark THE authority on lens and sensor measurements?

Buy 70D or wait and see what the 7D replacement holds?

I've been wanting to upgrade my camera body for about two years now... I'm still shooting with my old-ass XTi (yeah, yeah, I know) but it's not been a huge deal since I don't try to make any money off my photography. It's just a hobby, although I do shoot events and stuff for my family and friends sometimes (for no charge, just for fun).

Anyway, so I was all set to buy the 70D but then I read the last few posts on this site about the 7D replacement coming soon and I'm wondering if I should wait and see what that will have. My budget is $1,200, and while I'd like to have a new camera for the summer I really don't *need* one until early fall when I'm taking a big trip.

I know nobody here is a soothsayer, but I am really wrestling with what to do. Do I go ahead and get the 70D? At $1,000 it's well within my budget. Or do I wait until August (if that's when they're expected to announce) and see what the 7D replacement will have?

My concern with waiting is that it will be more than what I want to spend, and unless it's just really super awesome and way better than the 70D I can't see myself going above my budget. So I will have spent three months without a 70D just to go ahead and get the 70D anyway. But I'm also concerned that if they announce in August, it might not come out until later in the fall—after the trip I am really wanting a new camera for.

My concern with buying a 70D now is that the 7D replacement will be announced and it might be within, or around, my budget, and I'll regret getting the 70D instead of waiting for a presumably better camera. Or do people have an idea of what the replacement would likely sell for?

EF mount on Tamron lenses that are designed for APS-C cameras?

Hi all!
OK this is strange, My mom just bought a 6d. and coming from a 7d she really liked the Tamron 18-270mm mark I and was disapointed that she couldn't use it on the 6d as its an APS-C lens. So I was looking at it today and saw that the mount indicator was red. Which, in the canon world, means its a full frame lens. So i take the lens and pop it on the 6d. Im thinking that i must have missed something and that it really is a full frame lens. But than I look through the viewfinder, and the image is compleatly warped and vignetted. so I look on Tamron's web site and it is indeed a APS-c lens. I then tried the Tamron 60mm f/2 macro which is also an APS-c lens and it looked perfect. So my question is why is there an EF mount on a lens that is designed for an APS-c camera when there is a EF-s mount that would limit it to only APS-c cameras? Is this a Tamron thing? And why does the 60mm Macro look fine while the 18-270 looks terrible? is it that its a prime vs. a superzoom?
Has anyone else had this experience?

The Person Behind "Fake Chuck Westfall" is Unmasked

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<p><a href="http://www.pdnonline.com" target="_blank">PDNOnline</a> has posted an interview with the person behind controversial <a href="http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">blog and personality “Fake Chuck Westfall</a> (mature language).” The photographer behind the blog is named Karel Donk and is from Paramaribo, Suriname.</p>
<p style="color: #000000;">One of the biggest questions people always want to know about Fake Chuck Westfall is simple ‘why?’. Karel answers that and more during the interview.</p>
<p style="color: #000000;"><strong style="font-style: inherit;">Q:  Why did you start the Fake Chuck Westfall blog?

</strong><strong style="font-style: inherit;">A:</strong> I wanted to draw attention to the issues we were having with Canon years ago around the time of the 1D Mark III debacle. I and many others around the world were not satisfied with the way Canon was handling things and with their lack of honest and open communication. So I decided to set up the blog to discuss these issues.</p>
<p style="color: #000000;"><strong><a href="http://pdnpulse.pdnonline.com/2014/06/fake-chuck-westfall-unmasked-photographer-behind-controversial-canon-blog-reveals-hes-calling-quits.html" target="_blank">Read the full interview</a></strong></p>
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More EOS 7D Replacement Buzz Going Around [CR2]

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<p>We’re hearing from more dealers around the globe that the EOS 7D is either “out of stock” or has reached “end of life”. This is all pointing to the obvious conclusion that a replacement to the camera is on the horizon.</p>
<p>We haven’t been told of an exact announcement date, but do expect it in August. If we had to speculate, around August 18 would be our guess.</p>
<p>We have been told that a new STM kit lens is likely with the EOS 7D replacement, along with an L zoom.</p>
<p>No one at CineGear 2014 this past weekend had any insight about a 7D replacement, not even the usual facial expressions when you mention a new product. However, top Canon dealers should be hearing about it soon. We do expect spec relation information to be very tight until well into July.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Parkour Hamburg - 5D Mark II 14 Bit RAW HDR Video

Original this video shouldn't become a "Parkour Video" rather it should promotes the benifits and joy of training with a focus on movement and movement skills as apposed to a more mainstream approach to fitness training.

I shot this video with the 5D Mark II in RAW Video. This time I used Davinci Resolve Lite for Color Grading (in my earlier project I used Lightroom: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=19354.0). Davinci is more capable to fulfilling the need of a "dynamic" color grading when dealing with motion pictures than Lightroom, nonetheless the image quality seems to be better with Lightroom (What's your opinion/expierence?).
I also used the Glidecam HD 2000, the Tokina 16-28mm 2.8 (which isn't perfect for video due to the convex last lens) and the Canon 50mm 1.4.

Here is the video:
Wake Up To Movement

Nikon D80 70-300MM vs Canon EOS Rebel T3 12.2MP 18-55mm

Hi Guys,

I need some buying advice. I've got an option to buy either a used Nikon D80 with a 70-300MM lens or a new Canon EOS Rebel T3 with a 18-55MM lens. What would be a better choice? They are both selling for $350..

I'd like to take mostly landscape, macro & bokeh shots. My intent is to use the shots for websites. I'm very new to this and would love your guys' advice =)

Thanks
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Tamron 90 macro or Canon 100 for portraits?

So I bought a 50 f/2.5 compact macro. It's nice and small and sharp and great but it's just not close enough for my macro interests I've discovered. I'm also missing having a fast short-tele prime for portraits and such (had a minolta 100/f2 that was amazing). I'm shooting a 6D and have a 20mm, 40mm and 70-200/4.

I'm all about efficiency, portability and not having too much gear for lots of reasons. So I'm trying to avoid having both a ~100 macro and a fast prime like an 85/1.8. But I do know there's an appreciable difference between the look of f/2 and f/2.8.

AF speed is non issue for me, neither is super duper low light (though I'd really like IS/VC... lots of handheld available light shooting, not so much about tripods and strobes). This is about "the look" of the images mainly. I'd used my 100/f2 on Sony apsc a700 at f/2.2 quite a bit for a wedding and other people specific shooting and really liked that space. And it was even better on full-frame a800.

Will 2.8 really be that much different in look? Can I get away with a 90/100 macro as my portrait-type lens as well? What are your experiences with either or both the Tamron 90mm VC and the Canon 100mmL is?

I can get the Tamron for $600 and the Canon for $950 in Canada. Bottom line. If you force me to choose either an 85/1.8 or a 90/2.8 macro, I'll take the macro. (Maybe I just needed to type this out loud to decide.)

Yes, it's been discussed out there and I've read it, but not much here at canonrumors. ???

G1X II- Mounting Plate.... What does canon expect us to do here??

Canon did a really great job with this camera. I am really impressed with IQ, AF, Ergonomics etc... except they really dropped the ball on the threaded camera mount location.

It is so close to the card/battery hatch that none of the plates out there can mount on and allow access to the hatch.

Anyone know of one (ARCA SWISS STYLE) that has the mounting hole offset to the extreme edge so that it does not need to be removed to get at the battery/card slots?

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