Was Canon camera ever available for purchase so soon as announcement at 5d3 is? If not, then is it possible that another body is around the corner?
My devious (and perhaps hopeful) mind is saying that Canon will soon launch a high mp camera to compete with the Nikon's and wants to sell as many 5d3 before that as possible.
Just...

As an engineer I realize that there are several positive side effects to having more megapixels. However, I think the main reason people are buying the D800 would be for the resolution.

I've spent the better part of the day researching the resolving power of Nikon's entire lens lineup and I've come to an interesting conclusion.

Asside from the super telephoto primes, Nikon only has one lens in it's lineup that can actually resolve 36 megapixels, including their primes etc... the Nikkor AF-S 85mm f/1.4 G.

So in effect the actual resolution of the D800 is a useless figure. The biggest benefit will probably be the side effect of having enough resolution to remove the AA filter.

It will be interesting to see if the 5D3 with super sharp lenses like the new 24-70mm f/2.8 II or the D800E without an AA filter and less sharp lenses will actually be able to deliver the higher resolution. It seems to be anybody's race.

Just trying to to prompt some interesting discussion. Feel free to comment.

Canon Shanghai Event on March 2nd, 2012 to celebrate 15 years of Canon China and also announcement of 5D Mark III. Roughly Cut since i didn't have much time to edit.

Little bit of disappointment when i was there cause i was waiting for a long time to see the 5D mark III but unfortunately they didn't have the actual 5D mark III at the EOS booth there, even they don't have the 1DX. Just took the brochure. Anyway, this is the overview of the Canon Shanghai Event, I shoot mainly concern about EOS thing and 5D Mark III in this overview. Plus, Canon China 5D Mark III Commercial featuring Jackie Chan at the end.

Canon Shanghai March 2nd Event 5D Mark III Overview (Rough Cut)

What does this mean? The 5DII has four channels, 5DIII has 8, 1DX has 16. How fast does each channel cycle?

It seems like the 5DIII can capture 6fps at full raster and that in each case a channel correlates with about 3fps. Does that mean the 5DIII reads out 1/5th of the sensor at 30fps?

How can the camera avoid line skipping if the full sensor can only read out at 6fps?

I just came across this article today - http://www.channelnews.com.au/Digital_Cameras/Compact_DC/V8E9H8M6
New Canon EOS 5D Mark III Set To Be Available Via Cheap Grey Channel

Given that Sigma have been price matching the Grey market for over a year, and Nikon planning to "match overseas grey pricing and supply a two year warranty to consumers who buy their products via a Nikon approved retailer", what are Canon going to do to support those of up trying to attain CPS membership and purchase through the "authorised" distrubutors?

I'm already finding it almost impossible when trying to sell my old lenses when I upgrade to newer versions - even when still under warranty as i'm competing against new product through local comsumer stores that sell so much below what i purchased it for. Getting a 30% return on a 1-2 year old lens is financial suicide - Another reason for longer refresh times from the market.

Maybe if enough of us in Australia request a fair go from Canon they may do something - especially with the strength of the local currency.

As a few of you may know I'm currently studying photography and am contemplating withdrawing from the course - some of the reasons include scheduling of classes/lectures, transportation and travelling time, not 100% committed, significantly reduced hours to work (if any since so hectic) and it's expensive.

What I wanna know is how challenging and what kind of difficulties would arise trying to start a photography business from ground up? It doesn't neccessarily have to be a 'home' studio type of thing. Just how do you get someone willing to pay you a reasonable amount to take their photo? And how would you sustain that flow of income in the years (even decades) to come?

https://www.lytro.com/

Has anyone seen this ? It looks to be pretty awesome technology. Quote from their page "Recording light fields requires an innovative, entirely new kind of sensor called a light field sensor. The light field sensor captures the color, intensity and vector direction of the rays of light. This directional information is completely lost with traditional camera sensors, which simply add up all the light rays and record them as a single amount of light. "
You can basically change the focus in the picture after you have taken the Shot.

I've been looking for information about the reduced size RAW files for the 5DIII, plus the buffer depth for RAW.
Can anyone fill the gaps here?

5DIII RAW: buffer: 13 shots, 22.10 Megapixels, pixel dimensions (5760 x 3840)
5DIII mRAW: buffer: xx shots, xx Megapixels and pixel dimensions ( x )
5DIII sRAW: buffer: xx shots, xx Megapixels and pixel dimensions ( x )

When shooting some sports with the 1D4 I sometimes find it useful to switch to mRAW to push the buffer out from 26 to 33.
I'm expecting a huge leap with the 1D4 buffer with its' dual digic processors.

Paul Wright

Many of us 5D II owners are going to sell to pay for the new 5D III. But when? How?

Obviously November 2011 might be a good time, but must i sell today? Can i wait a month or two (or three) to get my 5DIII in hand first? I have a back-up body to get me throughout the gap, but it's no 5DII.

For me straight to eBay ( I live in a small town far from the city), but for you? And should I sell my 24-105 with it?, or separately? (I am getting another lens, and don't need it) How about my vertical grip. Sell Body, Grip and Lens as a kit or separately?

What am I missing?

I just came across some talk and reviews on the Leica M9-P. This is a brand and camera I didn't know anything about. Having read about it and seen it...

What the f***? I mean, just WHAT? I really, really... I DON'T GET IT. Leica M9-P. WHAT??

If one would want to go back to basic, why pay $8000 instead of buying a 20$ 20-year-old camera or turning your DSLR mode dial to "manual"?

Is there anybody who understands this Leica stuff? Anything more to be said than "you just have to try it" + aesthetic mysticism-like artistic rant?

How can such a thing exist?

First, let me state that I think that the 5D MkIII is going to be an awesome 'all-rounder' camera, however there are still quite a few people who want more megapixels. The D800 has caused quite a sensation (I've even heard a dedicated medium format film fan talking about buying one and going digital) and whilst I'm sure that Canon will be happy with 5D MkIII sales, I'm think that there will also be a bitter feeling of "that show used to belong to us!" at Canon HQ.

There was quite a few rumours of a 39MP sensored prototype some months back and now I'm wondering whether Canon will be tempted to put it into a production body. Another question would be whether this would be a 1Ds X, a 5Ds MkIII, or call it something new like a "3D". I don't think that a 1Ds X is likely, following Canon's marketing line that the 1D and 1Ds have been amalgamated. Futhermore, the previous Canon and Nikon generation showed that there wasn't as much demand for a full size high resolution body as for a compact/lower price model. That leaves either a 5Ds MkIII (essentially just a 5D MkII with a high resolution sensor) or something new -call it a 3D. The former would be low frame rate (I guess ~ 3.5fps with a single Digic 5), the latter might be dual-digic 5, with 5+fps. This would allow Canon to more easily exploit a higher price point than either the 5D MkIII or D800. I also believe that there's noting wrong in marketing terms with using the "3D" moniker; it's doubtful that anyone buying a camera at this price point would get confused with 3D capabilities. It might also be a good marketing line "resolution that gives your pictures the 3D look" etc.

Yes, I know that Canon have only just announced the 5D MkIII, but this is a rumours site and so I feel that speculation is acceptable, even at this early stage! An EOS 3D would be a welcome addition that would be good marketing and satisfy demand for a "big print" camera from landscape photographers who can't justify medium format prices.

http://fstoppers.com/omg-nikon-uses-5d2-phantom-hd-footage-to-promote-d800


Now thats a faux pass.

Hello CR forum ,
I'm from Germany and i want to buy a 5D Mk II in the next month to upgrade from my 450D. I heard alot of price drops in the US but can we expect price drops in Europe as well? If so, i could spent my money on some glass instead of the body only. The 28mm 1.8 or 85mm 1.8 would be a nice addition to the 50mm 1.4 for video work.

What do you think?

I've listed my 5D Mk II for sale on craigslist and received two responses from people who told me they are switching from Nikon and asked if I had a lens they could try the camera out with. There is also someone with an ad offering to trade their D700 for a 5D Mk II.

Could it be that D700 owners were waiting patiently to see what Canon and Nikon have come up with and simply decided the best answer is to go for a deal on a used 5D Mk II?

Purchased a lens with UZ date code from Ebay and found that the phase-detect focus is not accurate (using center point on 7D). The focus tends to be behind the focus point and varies with object distance, so it is not consistent. With Liveview, focus is accurate all the time. Is this a case of a bad lens?

In searching for video samples from the to be released DSLRs from Canon and Nikon there are TONS of Youtube videos claiming authenticity, but I have my doubts. Has anyone sorted out which are real (if any) and which are not (beyond those officially released)? It doesn't look like any official ones for the 5d Mark iii yet?

A long time ago I thought I remembered, reading or hearing, that 8MP was the goal or benchmark. That at 8MP this was the number that would be most analogous to film.

What IS the MP count- or is the question more complicated then this?

So who went to the Focus on imaging 2012?

Canon i think were the main attraction, a lot more buzz around their stand compared to the Nikon, it was the 5dmk3 that everybody wanted to see, also really went big with their stand.

anybody else agree from the uk.

Is anyone else betting that the new crop of APS-C DSLRs (pun noted) will feature a 22MP sensor? It would be in the ballpark for previous percentage resolution increases and is about the bare minimum that most people can notice. It would also tie in nicely with the 5D MkIII's resolution for marketing purposes.

Hi guys!

This is for you that have been trying the 1d X.

How come after 45 minutes with it and a Canon person we couldn't get the camera to light up the chosen AF point, and be able to track a subject with that point? Did any of you people get that to work?

No matter what zone or signle point AF I chose, the focusing points jumped around wildly and were impossible to control, it also seemed like the expansion points are no VISIBLE, please tell me this can be turned off....

I want to be able to see the single point I track something with all the time, and ONLY that point... We struggled also very hard to achieve this on the 5d3 also. Which, btw, looks fairly awesome....

Since I saw a couple of people requesting RAW files, I thought I'd share a couple. I would also appreciate any advice on how to do anything useful (e.g convert) with them (They can be displayed just fine in ZoomBrowser EX):


I pretty much picked a file hosting service at random, so hopefully downloading them will be not be too much of a hassle.

5D3 RAW @ ISO 51200
5D3 RAW @ ISO 6400
5D3 RAW @ ISO 12800

I have a few more samples, shot at ISO 102400, 25600 and 12800 as well, if anyone's interested. Apparently, the firmware version of my test camera was "4.9.2"

Edit: Added ISO 12800 sample

So here is my dilemma. I own a 7d at the moment and am happy with it, but have been wanting to go full frame for a while now. I would of snapped the opportunity of a 5d3 but the price is too high for me at the moment (note to trolls, I don't care about the price itself- I just can't afford it right now). So my issue is this. I can go to a 5d2 which are now more affordable, but should I wait and save the pennies or make the jump?

The other dilemma is over one of my lenses. I own what I consider Canons best walkabout lenses - EFS 17-55 2.8 IS. I love this lens- its an L lens in disguise and performs brilliantly. However, I would have to factor in the expense of a new standard zoom into the change over (as-well as selling the EFS) which makes it even harder to move.

My current kit list is

7d
EFS 17-55 2.8 IS
50mm 1.4
70-200 2.8L IS II

So what to do? Wait and save, or take a leap. My current outlets are portraiture, events and fine art. Oh and whilst your here- take a look at my port geoffjanes.500px.com - any feedback would be gratefully received.

Thanks

Geoff.

CR mentioned another body is in the rumor mill for this year. How is that rumor shaping up (especially as the 5D3 is so overpriced)?

Hi everyone. Let me just start by saying that this is my first official post on the CR Forums, but I've been a regular visitor to this website for the past 2.5 years.

Let me start by saying that I'm not a fan of Nikon. I had a bad experience with one of their point-and-shoot products, and I'm currently not interested in investing in a Nikon DSLR.

During that time, I've been waiting patiently on any announcements with regards to the Canon 5D Mark III. My "love affair" (as I will call it) of the 5D started when a close friend of mine bought his first DSLR, a Canon 7D. I tried it out for sometime, and of course, fell in love with the simplicity of the system, the quality of the lenses, and the excellent features that were being offered at the right price point. But I did have one gripe with the 7D; it wasn't full frame. There was the 5D Mark II of course, but as that was released some time before the 7D, I really wanted to invest in the newest product with the best-in-class video and picture capabilities.

That is when the waiting game for the 5D Mark III first began. Now it's finally been announced, and like many of you, I am very excited. However, I do have some concerns before I go ahead with a pre-order. Concerns that I'm hoping some of you in this forum may be able to answer or re-assure for me.

1. It is clear that Nikon and Canon have done some role-reversal. Nikon, typically strong with AF systems and keeping MP low, have now created an MP monster; the D800, that will certainly turn heads, complete with a "reasonable" AF system and "good" ISO. They've also added some good video functionality that will be equal to Canon or perhaps even better, as I have read around that the D800 has auto-focus capability for video, while 5D Mark III does not (could anyone confirm this?)

It is clear that when you look at the specs of the D700 versus the D800, Nikon has included enough features that most D700 owners will upgrade.

2. Canon, typically strong with MP and video, have decided to outfit the Mark III with similar MP but extremely high ISO, improved AF and frame rate, BUT at a higher cost point. While these will ultimately contribute to improved video, there are no video features of note that seem to make this camera better versus the D800 (and as previously mentioned in #1, I am still unsure about autofocus with video).

Many of the websites I've read (this site, Planet 5D, etc) suggest to Mark II owners that the new features offered by the Mark III are not worth the increase in price, and that Mark II owners can continue to get by with their current camera with the right filters and general experience.

Ultimately, it appears that Canon has either not included enough features, or has spec-ed too high of a price point, such that most Mark II owners may NOT upgrade to the Mark III.

3. Due to the price difference, lack of increased MP and lack of general differences in video or other features, it may be very likely that most Nikon owners will not jump ship to the Canon camp. However, it is very possible from reading this forum and other websites that many Canon owners are unhappy and will jump ship to the Nikon camp.

4. Based upon points #1, #2 and #3, my primary concern and the reason why I have not yet put in a pre-order on the Canon 5D Mark III, is that it may potentially:
(a) Suffer from poor sales due to Canon owners jumping ship and lack of Mark II owners upgrading
(b) Lose the race against the D800 in terms of the best-in-class semi-pro FF camera
(c) Ultimately become a major dud for Canon, which may force Canon to release a 5D Mark IV or other successor camera earlier than expected.
(d) Ultimately result in the resale value of the Mark III to plummet.
(e) Ultimately result in the lack of support from third-party vendors for the Mark III product as opposed to the D800 product.

Now, before everyone starts flaming me and this post, let me remind you that I'm not a Nikon fan, and I actually have no intention of purchasing a D800 regardless. My only options are to take the risk and pre-order a Mark III outright, or to wait some more and see what happens and if Canon either releases another camera, changes up the specs or reduces their price point.

Being a big fan of Ken Rockwell and his website of "many things", I do agree with his perspective that camera bodies in general become obsolete the day they are released, much akin to driving a new car off the lot. Therefore, it is critical that enough people buy this new camera such that the support is maintained and resale value and demand stays high.

I also agree with his recommendation of pre-ordering ASAP, as there tends to be huge waiting lists, and potential fluctuations in prices down the road (boy.. I feel almost like I'm playing the stock market now!). I should note that the Amazon pre-orders for D800 dried up in pretty much a day.. not sure on the Mark III but most of the brick-and-mortar stores in Toronto have pre-orders available as of today and on their websites.

All things considered, I really really really want this camera at the end of the day. But I don't want to risk being out $5000+ (camera, lenses, accessories included) on what could potentially be a dud with limited support and limited re-sale value (almost akin to purchasing a failed video game console - think back to 3DO, Dreamcast, 32X, Atari 5200, etc)

My question to all of you, is if you can please give me any more reasons or perspectives which I may have missed before I make my decision to pre-order this camera.

(Also, can anyone please confirm the autofocus thing with 5D Mark III video? Is autofocus even necessary with video, or is manual-focus always the way to go?

And one more thing while I'm at it.. what flash would all you recommend? I really like the new 600EX-RT Speedlight, but $630US seems insane for a flash)

Thanks everyone, your comments are greatly appreciated.

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