Is the Next VCM Prime Lens an RF 14mm f/2L VCM?

[Canon Rumors]

We reported a couple of weeks back that Canon would be releasing two more VCM lenses, and that at least one of them would not be f/1.4L like the current lineup of 5 lenses. This makes sense, especially if they go wider than 20mm or longer than 85mm. Whining To stay consistent with my decade […]

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[m4ndr4ke]

Told ya it would be an UWA...

 

[Exploreshootshare]

OMG! Dream come true, now I just have to wait till it shows up in a refurb sale

 

[Berowne]

8000€ for the sumire prime lenses ...

 

[Mekos]

The one I would choose!!! Great!
Next VCM 1.4L ... 120mm

 

[MythPlayer]

The one I would choose!!! Great!
Next VCM 1.4L ... 120mm

Slow than F2.2 135mm lens ,If still keep 67mm front

 

[john1970]

A UWA lens makes sense, but I would think that Canon would do something at f1.4 to compete directly with the Sigma 14 mm f1.4. Why make it one stop slower? Maybe the two other VCM prime lenses will have a different filter size?

 

[Tidy Media]

A UWA lens makes sense, but I would think that Canon would do something at f1.4 to compete directly with the Sigma 14 mm f1.4. Why make it one stop slower? Maybe the two other VCM prime lenses will have a different filter size?

My thoughts exactly, at a minimum we should be looking at f/1.8 and ideally f/1.4.

 

[Thane]

A UWA lens makes sense, but I would think that Canon would do something at f1.4 to compete directly with the Sigma 14 mm f1.4. Why make it one stop slower? Maybe the two other VCM prime lenses will have a different filter size?

This maybe something they come up with in the future, but will be big and heavy. The f2 is to keep the size in line with the VCM hybrid series, so I do understand it.

 

[DhlcadR6]

12mm f2 is bright enough for me. If it's as light as Sony 14mm f1.8 GM.

 

[picky]

To keep the size of the tube and avoid the need for a convex front lens, the f2 is seems to be reasonable. Maybe f1.8 will fit too, but more like f2, so this can be absolutely realistic to keep price point on the same as the other VCM lens around 1800 USD 2000 EUR. As I mentioned before, at the other end of the series I expect a 105mm f/1.8 or f/2 instead of a longer 135mm version

 

[mimbu]

A UWA lens makes sense, but I would think that Canon would do something at f1.4 to compete directly with the Sigma 14 mm f1.4. Why make it one stop slower? Maybe the two other VCM prime lenses will have a different filter size?

The VCM line is supposed to be the "compact" L prime line, no? Suitable for gimbal use but also good for photos? I'm not sure if you have seen the Sigma 14/1.4 DG, but it's HUGE. It's awesome, to be sure, but it's HUGE.

The real question IMO is how the proposed 14/2L will compare against Sony's 14/1.8GM. I'll get hate for this, but Canon's fast(ish) ultrawide primes have never been great. Nor have they ever been particularly fast. This will be new ground. Canon still charges US$2100+tax @ B&H for the EF 14/2.8L II, and it's just not that great a lens. Love or hate Sony, the 14/1.8GM is an absolute gem, and even after all the recent price increases it's $1750 @ B&H. (Ridiculously, it's $1110+tax here in Japan! The EF14/2.8L II is $1627+tax here.)

More competition in the market will be great and I hope Canon comes through with a stunner of a lens and doesn't slap a $2500 price onto it.

As for me, the new Viltrox AF 14/4 Air at $199 delivered is much more in line with what I want to spend on a lens I won't use all that often. Reviews have been very positive!

 

[bn5fg]

I'll get hate for this, but Canon's fast(ish) ultrawide primes have never been great. Nor have they ever been particularly fast.

Which primes exactly? The widest L-series option is the RF 20mm f/1.4, and it’s solid. The RF 16mm f/2.8? That’s basically a semi-pancake designed to be cheap. Or are you talking about the EF 14mm f/2.8? Good luck designing a genuinely fast UWA for a 44mm flange distance.

 

[HMC11]

I’d like an RF 28mm f/1.4L VCM....

There is hope yet if the 14/f2 is indeed part of the current VCM series . Assuming that the other rumoured VCM is a f1.4, then that practically leaves 28/f1.4 (or thereabout) as the most viable option, as an f1.4 beyond 85mm would mean a 90mm lens at most, which does not seem to make sense.

 

[bn5fg]

as an f1.4 beyond 85mm would mean a 90mm lens at most, which does not seem to make sense.

Even the 85mm f/1.4 isn’t really 85mm—more like 81mm. They had to make some compromises to keep the filter thread at 67mm. So I guess we won’t see anything longer than 85mm at f/1.4 in this lineup.

 

[David - Sydney]

Similar to @mimbu it should be competitive with the Sony 14/1.8 in size/cost.current rf20/1.4 is about the same price as the Sony on B&h so maybe possible
The 1 stop difference between F2 vs f2.8 for my samyang would be good (assuming reasonable coma) but doesn’t really fit the rumour of a ‘wild’ wide prime

 

[Bob Howland]

I realize that the Sigma 12 f/1.4 DC is APS-C not FF but it makes all the Canon VCM lenses look enormous.

 

[rombe3jr]

All of the Canon f/1.4 VCM's look quite nice. Canon is my favorite brand. Ergonomics... beautiful lenses to match! But I have to admit, the 3rd party market is getting pretty hard to ignore. Some people are saying that the new Viltrox Pro 85 f/1.4 rivals the e-mount G Master lens. And it is only $600 (USD). If the Chinese keep this up, they are going to undercut the major camera brands on all of these f/1.4 lenses by $1,000. That's saving $1,000... per lens.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Good luck designing a genuinely fast UWA for a 44mm flange distance.

Sigma managed to do it.

 

[bn5fg]

All of the Canon f/1.4 VCM's look quite nice. Canon is my favorite brand. Ergonomics... beautiful lenses to match! But I have to admit, the 3rd party market is getting pretty hard to ignore. Some people are saying that the new Viltrox Pro 85 f/1.4 rivals the e-mount G Master lens. And it is only $600 (USD). If the Chinese keep this up, they are going to undercut the major camera brands on all of these f/1.4 lenses by $1,000. That's saving $1,000... per lens.

Everybody talks about the overweight Viltrox, but they ignore the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 — it’s been around forever and is far more practical. The Viltrox is nowhere near a GM II rival: 800g vs 642g.

As a portrait shooter, you’re already hauling a strobe, a stand, a softbox, a second camera… so wasting weight on a Chinese anchor lens just isn’t acceptable.

On the other hand, Chinese manufacturers are slashing prices like crazy, so I believe the rumor about an RF 45mm f/1.2 non-L might actually be true.

Sigma managed to do it.

You mean the 14mm DG HSM? At 1170 grams for a UWA prime, it’s not exactly practical for the general audience.