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No one, at least not me arguing what your needs. I have no interest and it’s irrelevant to me.
my discussion has always been price parity. My last word.
Sure. That’s a quote from 1 store. I guess you are more familiar than those who are living Australia.
It’s all about options and possibilities. What would you say if R5 was priced at US$7,000.00 in US? That’s how we feel at times. Therefor a grey market product becoming more of a consideration for many in Australia.
A grey market product typically comes with a 12 month third party warranty. Typically an authorised Australian Canon repairer But engaged via a third party paid gig. Dollar notes are not hanging of trees in the land down under. We earn as much as some US folks in local currency. A$7,000.00 is quite a price to pay for many.
I really wouldn’t sweat it too much as comparing prices to the USA is never a good idea as they always get by far the best deals. And Oz like the UK have lots of red tape and tax that just adds to the cost of ever single thing we purchase.
I you want to hear my own horrific story of price parity, a few years ago when I wanted to upgarde my Phase One Back from a P65 to IQ260 (same CCD but different platform) I was quoted in the UK £14,000 + VAT however a dealer in the USA quoted me (after conversion) £8500.
£5500! difference for the exact same product.
Much bigger market to keep happy so they either get all the best deals to keep the gears turning or the dealers in the rest of the world are much greedier.
Wait a second. 1Dx III at ISO 12800 is at the same EV level as 5D4 at ISO6400? That’s a full stop of high ISO latitude advantage at 6400. Okaaay. I would like to see R5 curve. Overheating or not )
Hey, Michael. Let me explain: Australian population Is pretty much concentrated along our eastern shores. Not evenly distributed Across the land mass. cost of distribution is quite low. So not the case. Import duties on cameras: none pretty much. There is 10% GST. That’s all. it’s the profit margins that they are chasing. And it is pretty high in this instance. And why not to milk Aussies a bit while they can? Guess what.. we are not stupid here.Not many in the U.S. can afford $7,000 (or $3,899) for a camera, either. But there are 360 million people living in the U.S. There are 25 million people living in Australia. Add another 5 million if New Zealand is also served by Canon AUS..
Size of market makes a difference.
The overhead cost for keeping Canon AUS in business must be borne by 1/14 as many potential buyers compared to the overhead cost of running Canon USA. Taxes are different. The level of government services are different. Consumer protections are different. The cost of shipping in a country as large as Australia but with low population density and large areas with very little human habitation will be higher. Other economic considerations we don't even know about may also come into play.
You can't expect a grape to taste like a plum. They look similar. But they're two entirely different fruits (which may have common genetic ancestors) with two very different internal structures due to their significant difference in size.
Hey, Michael. Let me explain: Australian population Is pretty much concentrated along our eastern shores. Not evenly distributed Across the land mass. cost of distribution is quite low. So not the case. Import duties on cameras: none pretty much. There is 10% GST. That’s all. it’s the profit margins that they are chasing. And it is pretty high in this instance. And why not to milk Aussies a bit while they can? Guess what.. we are not stupid here.
a share of GDP per each citizen of Australia in AUD, (local prices are not always USD bound, of course), is higher than the same in US. We are doing OK In general. however My point is: AUD$7,000 to pay for R5 is a difficult price to stomachIf y'all are so much smarter than us ignorant yanks, then grow an economy with a GDP of $21.5T (USD) instead of $1.5T (USD) and see how that affects prices of imported cameras. We've got plenty of stupid folks here, including most of the ones that run our government, and yet we still seem to do OK in the long run.
It's interesting that my old Canon 50d had 15 Mpx, a big wheel at the back, a joystick and an LCD screen at the top. Ok, it had only 9 AF points and not the best ISO. But at the first glimpse, there aint much of improvement since 2008
Nope. That's why I deferred to the expertise of someone who lives in Australia who doesn't seem to think a corporation in Japan owes them a camera for the price they're charging others in a different country with differing import duties, tax structures, populations/sales numbers, and other various economic considerations.
So I can use the old batteries from 5D4, right? I have LP-E6 and LP-E6N. R5 had LP-E6NH, so aside older and less capacity, it should work?
Do the chargers also work either way, meaning I can use old charger to charge the E6NH and the new charger to charge old E6 battery?
What was the 5D4 RRP when it was released in US? The 5D4 RRP was about A$5000 in
Australia. R5 A$7000. That’s approximately 30% increased.
So I can use the old batteries from 5D4, right? I have LP-E6 and LP-E6N. R5 had LP-E6NH, so aside older and less capacity, it should work?
Do the chargers also work either way, meaning I can use old charger to charge the E6NH and the new charger to charge old E6 battery?
Yup. LP-E6 originals work in the R5 and the original LC-E6 charger are said to work with the LP-E6NH. The charger hasn't changed; it's still LC-E6. Backward and forward compatible.
My 5D4 charger accepts both E6N and the old E6. All genuine Canon.
The MSRP of the 5D Mark IV was $3,499 USD when introduced in 2016, the same as the 5D Mark III in 2012.
At that time most of us did not get charged for sales taxes when ordering from out of state retailers with no presence in the state to which the camera would be shipped. That is now no longer the case, as most states have finally caught up to the internet revolution and force out of state retailers to collect sales taxes on items shipped to their states. A U.S. Supreme Court ruling that was handed down about three years ago gave the states the authority to do so.
Ignoring the tax, what is the percentage increase from the 5D4 to the R5 in US? About 10%!!! JUST $300 more than the 5D4.
What do think if the R5 RRP is $4500 instead of $3900. An increase of 30% over the 5D4. That's just $1000 more from the 5D4. Where it's A$2000 over the 5D4 0in Australia.
Another word, an increase of $300 from the 5D4 to the R5 in US. But A$2000 increase from the 5D4 to the R5 in Australia.