10 stops is a lot to ask for.The number 1 feature this would need for it to be an instant buy as a video centric body is internal NDs, 10 stops.
6 stops would be amazing.
Hopefully, with IBIS.
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10 stops is a lot to ask for.The number 1 feature this would need for it to be an instant buy as a video centric body is internal NDs, 10 stops.
Same for me, as I shoot stills exclusively. The R5 isn't perfect but it performs much as I hoped and expected. But if I was a video shooter hoping to shoot 8K in a warm climate, I wouldn't be so happy.I definitely would not as long as I knew the limitations like I did before I bought my R5.
It did everything I expected it to do.
I am happier after the firmware updates but I am glad Canon released the camera when they did.
We can agree to disagree? I don't have a strong opinion, but if you are a good photographer / videographer either will work. You will probably do better with something you are familiar with versus something you perceive to be marginally better.I fundamentally disagree with that statement.
I think gear can be compared against brands and I do not only own Canon gear.
I would think this place would be Canon biased but whenever anyone criticizes any Canon gear there are comments like "Go buy Sony" or "Go buy a Fuji."
So, which competitor exactly shoots 8K better for the same amount of money?Same for me, as I shoot stills exclusively. The R5 isn't perfect but it performs much as I hoped and expected. But if I was a video shooter hoping to shoot 8K in a warm climate, I wouldn't be so happy.
Dear Canon:
Please stop releasing all this amazing, drool-inducing stuff like R3s and f2 zooms and focus on the replacement for the 5DSr. Please give us a BSI 100mp+ camera, preferably with a detachable, up-flipping viewfinder like the fuji GFx. The VF doesn't HAVE to be removable, but please have expanded viewing options for in-studio and tethered. Let us studio pros give some feedback. We have tons of ideas. The r3 body form was a step in the right direction for sure. Variable low-pass too please?
It’s not that simple. Its not difficult to become familiar with a camera, it just takes a couple of days and some practice. Of course you’ll do a good job with any camera, but it also will be according to its possibilities. For example if you are a hybrid shooter, you’ll sure do beautiful 8K video with the A1 even if it’s not Raw and only 4:2:0. With the R5, you’ll do a good job too but without a recorder you’ll be severely restricted by the timer.We can agree to disagree? I don't have a strong opinion, but if you are a good photographer / videographer either will work. You will probably do better with something you are familiar with versus something you perceive to be marginally better.
Personally, If I did not already have an R5 then I would buy a Kolari Vision modded R5.For example if you are a hybrid shooter, you’ll sure do beautiful 8K video with the A1 even if it’s not Raw and only 4:2:0. With the R5, you’ll do a good job too but without a recorder you’ll be severely restricted by the timer.
I noticed that the camera was fixed. DPReview always uses a baby rocking machine to simulate AF tracking. If fixed on a tripod with long form video, you could reduce the heat generation by manual focus and turn off IBIS/OIS as it would be another source of heat.I saw that video but why do you specifically refer to IBIS ans AF tracking? Would it change anything!?
4K Raw would be a substantial crop. Oversampled should be better than raw especially with clogx. What would be interesting is if Canon would apply compression to the raw bitrate ie not IPB-light.
- More codecs. In my use I found that I like using IPB-Lite because of the data economy. I don't personally see much of a fall off in quality. So if anything I would actually be more interested in lower bitrate codecs. Also, if some way some how they can give me RAW lite in 4K, I would be overjoyed. Hopefully the original rumor that CLOG2 will be included is true as well. I wonder if people still have issues editing the 10-bit 4.2.2 footage, and if they do... would a more friendly 4.2.0 be welcome. Personally have no issues editing, but I do have a pretty powerful workstation laptop.
I considered the A1 but it is not for me.
UHD 4:2:0 is not usable for me.
With 8k video I submit you will be limited by storage space. Ask me how I know. I also submit I feel confident I can record whatever 8k video project I wish just fine with either the A1 or the R5. I prefer the R5 for a variety of reasons but #1 is I know I can get the job done with the R5 and I have no desire to sell all of my stuff to buy something that really isn't better. I know it is fun to try and objectively declare camera a is better than camera b with subjective opinions, but to me I am not buying it.It’s not that simple. Its not difficult to become familiar with a camera, it just takes a couple of days and some practice. Of course you’ll do a good job with any camera, but it also will be according to its possibilities. For example if you are a hybrid shooter, you’ll sure do beautiful 8K video with the A1 even if it’s not Raw and only 4:2:0. With the R5, you’ll do a good job too but without a recorder you’ll be severely restricted by the timer.
I guess, my wish is for a oversampled image that has the RAW workflow so there's no crop. I know it's not really RAW in the purest sense since it would require in camera processing to downsample the 8K to 4K. But working with RAW files is just enjoyable for me. 8K Raw even the lite RAW is so gorgeous when rendered, but man the files are huge. So maybe my wish is just for a more economical resolution in raw without crop.4K Raw would be a substantial crop. Oversampled should be better than raw especially with clogx. What would be interesting is if Canon would apply compression to the raw bitrate ie not IPB-light.
At least in the R5, it's a difference of one being LOG (4.2.2 10-bit) and not log (4.2.0 8-bit) so more blown highlights and crushed shadows with more noise. So if that's important to someone, then yeah it could be a deal breaker.In what regards is 4:2:0 UHD not for you? Just curious
+1Yes, being limited to 20fps in electronic shutter is just plain ridiculous, I can't see any logic behind it.
Why can't we have a choice between single shot, low (5ps), medium (10fps) and high (20fps)...
And while they're fixing issues, it would be nice if the eyepiece sensor had a user adjustable timer, to prevent the EVF shutting down 4 seconds after removing the camera from the eye.
What are you saying? Nonsense, Sony A1 offers 10 bit 8K 4:2:0 Log (slog3).At least in the R5, it's a difference of one being LOG (4.2.2 10-bit) and not log (4.2.0 8-bit) so more blown highlights and crushed shadows with more noise. So if that's important to someone, then yeah it could be a deal breaker.
I was only speaking for the R5. My bad. I have no interest in the Sony so I had no business chiming in.What are you saying? Nonsense, Sony A1 offers 10 bit 8K 4:2:0 Log (slog3).
Just curious: what's wrong with ALL-I?4K Raw would be a substantial crop. Oversampled should be better than raw especially with clogx. What would be interesting is if Canon would apply compression to the raw bitrate ie not IPB-light.
4:2:0 is a delivery codec.In what regards is 4:2:0 UHD not for you? Just curious
I do not really see the advantage of cropped 4k RAW on an actively cooled camera like the R5c.4K Raw would be a substantial crop. Oversampled should be better than raw especially with clogx. What would be interesting is if Canon would apply compression to the raw bitrate ie not IPB-light.
Technically, RAW (with Bayer/RGGB color filter pattern) is more than 4:2:0 (due to higher sampling frequency of greens) but less than 4:2:2.4:2:0 is a delivery codec.
It is not meant for editing.
RAW is 4:4:4.
Or even to crop.It is also better to downscale to UHD when you need to than to upscale to DCI when you need to.