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Canon EOS R1 Spotted in the wild at the Monaco GP
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The crop button and the FTP button are playback functions. This is why they are in blue ink and why they can share a button with a feature used while shooting.UPDATE of what we found out:
So this is all I could find in the pictures and here in the discussion - concluded to a more or less complete list of what to see in the pictures, updated today.
- the coating is the same as on the one R1 picture we got from Canon, so this is the R1 (what a surprise)
- The Viewfinder is huuuuuge, so i am pretty sure we will get close to 10MP resolution AND the 2. generation of Eye-Control
- the multishoe has a lockable cap as far as i and others have spotted
- the R1 is far bigger than the R3, just look how small the 85mm f1.2 gets on it
- A metal bar for straps at the bottom (not seen at the R3, but aviable at many vertical grips and all the 1D-Series cameras)
- battery percentage on the top LCD is also new, not seen on the R3 Top Screen or any other, but aviably on the normal flippy screen
- The top button layout is the same as on the R3, plus a WB-Button
- On the top are also two new symbols near the M-Fn button and the LCD-light button in a blueish colour: according to Tony Northrup the gas-station-like Symbol is the FTP-Symbol which indicates a dedicated button for wireless transmission. The other one shows a crop-symbol which might be a sign for a integrated teleconverter
- the ON-OFF switch on the side, is for controling the vertical grip functions and was used on previous 1D-series Cameras, but is not built into the R3
- the card slot seems just a little bigger than on the R3, and has a new locking mechanism
- the bottom shows us an HDMI logo, so it features full HDMI
- a diopter control is also built into the viewfinder. I expected it, but just have it in here
- Also the mode-switch is the same as on the R3 and R5
- SN shows a 31, so this is number 31 to be produced
- The registration-ID says DS126925, according to most of the people, it is not the same as on of the 3 (-22, -28, -04) we have seen in the rumored registrations
- overall is the camera bigger, but especially thicker than the R3, that also improves the ergnomics (it is possible to measure the dimensions, with the dimensions of the 85mm f1.2, but i won't do that
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- the battery voltage is something over 10V - while the 1DX III and R3's LP-E19 Battery runs with 10.8V, the R1 runs with something like 13 or 15 point something Volts as far as i have spotted out of the pictures. So does this lead to a new battery? It would be no surprise to me.
@Canon Rumors Guy here is a little update for you
Let me know any further things you have noticed, and i will update it again.
Sports/event/journalists make use of tagging, cropping and then sending via FTP even in the middle of an event to be the first to publish.
This camera at 24MP is designed for these people just as the R3 and 1 series has always been.
Wildlife photogs will be satisfied with the fast readout 45MP sensor in the R5. Unless they want to use it in harsh environments. But honestly if one wants a rugged, high MP body for wildlife you should be switching to Nikon with a Z9 and lens selection geared to wildlife.
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Yeah, but the internet also reported an R5 mirror falling out, so….The internet has already reported a few real cases where the Z9 sensor protector failed...
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I was referring to a post by a pro photgrapher, showing pictures of what seemed to be an unhinged protector after he had dropped the camera. I've forgotten his name...Yeah, but the internet also reported an R5 mirror falling out, so….
And, it's a sad reality that the R5s are losing their mirrors in masses. Canon have already warned of an R5 replacement - mirror shortage. It's true, seen on internet too!
Edit: His name is Matt Granger
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While I would have preferred 30 MP over 24 MP. Having a 24 MP QPAF high-speed camera is still of interest. I only make photobooks of my prints so the largest I generally print is 8x 10 where I only need 7.2 MP for a 300 dpi print.
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If the rumour about having both electronic and mechanic shutters in the R5II is true, then there will be caveats in the presumably fast R5II's sensor. That is, it may be providing only 12 or 13-bit readout instead of 14. So you either use mechanical or EFCS with 14 bits, or electronic shutter with 12-13-bit readout. Something like that.
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24 MP!!!
Thank you Canon for listening to professional sports photographers. I'm not one of them, but since I made the jump to the 1 series, I never looked back or missed the APS-C crop or its megapixes. Generally I am in environments where the internet connection is exclusively my cell phone, making it quite problematic to manage and transfer large images.
Thank you Canon for listening to professional sports photographers. I'm not one of them, but since I made the jump to the 1 series, I never looked back or missed the APS-C crop or its megapixes. Generally I am in environments where the internet connection is exclusively my cell phone, making it quite problematic to manage and transfer large images.
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“What’s a phonebook?” (A question one of my kids has actually asked me.)
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UPDATE of what we found out:
So this is all I could find in the pictures and here in the discussion - concluded to a more or less complete list of what to see in the pictures, updated today.
- the coating is the same as on the one R1 picture we got from Canon, so this is the R1 (what a surprise)
- The Viewfinder is huuuuuge, so i am pretty sure we will get close to 10MP resolution AND the 2. generation of Eye-Control
- the multishoe has a lockable cap as far as i and others have spotted
- the R1 is far bigger than the R3, just look how small the 85mm f1.2 gets on it
- A metal bar for straps at the bottom (not seen at the R3, but aviable at many vertical grips and all the 1D-Series cameras)
- battery percentage on the top LCD is also new, not seen on the R3 Top Screen or any other, but aviably on the normal flippy screen
- The top button layout is the same as on the R3, plus a WB-Button
- On the top are also two new symbols near the M-Fn button and the LCD-light button in a blueish colour: according to Tony Northrup the gas-station-like Symbol is the FTP-Symbol which indicates a dedicated button for wireless transmission. The other one shows a crop-symbol which might be a sign for a integrated teleconverter
- the ON-OFF switch on the side, is for controling the vertical grip functions and was used on previous 1D-series Cameras, but is not built into the R3
- the card slot seems just a little bigger than on the R3, and has a new locking mechanism
- the bottom shows us an HDMI logo, so it features full HDMI
- a diopter control is also built into the viewfinder. I expected it, but just have it in here
- Also the mode-switch is the same as on the R3 and R5
- SN shows a 31, so this is number 31 to be produced
- The registration-ID says DS126925, according to most of the people, it is not the same as on of the 3 (-22, -28, -04) we have seen in the rumored registrations
- overall is the camera bigger, but especially thicker than the R3, that also improves the ergnomics (it is possible to measure the dimensions, with the dimensions of the 85mm f1.2, but i won't do that
- the battery voltage is something over 10V - while the 1DX III and R3's LP-E19 Battery runs with 10.8V, the R1 runs with something like 13 or 15 point something Volts as far as i have spotted out of the pictures. So does this lead to a new battery? It would be no surprise to me.
@Canon Rumors Guy here is a little update for you
Let me know any further things you have noticed, and i will update it again.
I'm going to do an article with all your observations and a few more things.
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But the slow file transfer in difficult environments is not a good reason to reduce the megapixel count. You can shoot at 45 or even 60Mp but transfer downscaled images.
The main (maybe the only one) technical reason why Canon engineers make it 24Mp: they can't make a sensor with a larger Mp count work fast enough.
Canon probably set quite a high bar for speed and speed has a higher priority for them.
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It’s 24MP to allow to do what it will do in terms of buffer and FPS but I think it’s a let down. I don’t think more FPS is worth less MP. FPS is a diminishing return. After waiting all this waiting time for it. I’ve the 1DX Mark III , it’s 20mp seemed completely out of date when the R5 arrived. It saves me money as an upside.
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It takes time to select and downscale images - time you may not have. With a 24 MP camera you can automatically transfer or FTP images as they are being shot from multiple cameras. The job is to set up remote cameras so the images can automatically reach someone else for review and selection. During the event the photographer has tht portion of the job handled automatically while they continue to shoot with a 2-3 cameras.
You're right about the faster readout of a 24 MP sensor. It reduces or eliminates the rolling shutter issue - especially with the fast readout.
Heat is an issue - especially as frame rates climb and for video. The larger body lets the camera body operate to reduce heat. The Nikon Z9 is much better than the Z8 because it is larger and the body was designed to shed heat.
It's possible to generate images at high frame rates with larger files. But at some point the buffer fills and you need to be able to quickly clear the buffer. Larger files fill the buffer more quickly and take longer to clear.
A 24 MP camera is the sweet spot for sports and fast action. It's also great for events and reportage. There are also cases where a 24 MP camera is one of your cameras and you can use it alongside a high resolution camera.
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Thanks for the info! I am ashamed i have not known this from my own cameras but i makes a lot of sense - thanks!
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photobook not phonebook!! I do understand why children today have no idea what a phonebook is. Got to love autocorrect.
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Thanks a lot!! There have been two news, one is very exiting: we have a photo of the backside, wohooooo!!!)
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The 1-series camera has always been about high-speed photography so I am not surprised at Canon's decision.
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I'm a wildlife photographer. 45mp is absolute key for me and having the R5 over the R3, looks like I'm going R5ii again. Shame
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