Update: Canon Speedlite 600 EX II-RT & EF-M 28mm f/3.5 IS STM Specifications

[Chaitanya]

Built in macro light, that would be interesting first for Canon. I hope both these products are launched in next few days.

 

[rs]

Images are up now. The ring flash looks promising:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/2016/05/ef-m28mm-f38-is-stm.html&usg=ALkJrhia8C9y0vBROksBEPQaIyktANk2EQ

 

[neuroanatomist]

Speedlite 600EX II-RT compared to the original version:

• Covers the angle of view of 20mm-200mm same as the original
• Coverage of 197ft / 60M (ISO100) same as the original
• Continuous firing is 1.5 times faster from 1.1 (CP-E4N 2 times faster at the time of use) faster recycling
• Up to 5 can control the flash of the group same as the original
• Dust and water resistent same as the original
• The new design of the accessories group adds a compact (presumably rechargeable) battery pack
• Dot matrix type liquid crystal panel same as the original
• 15 types of custom functions three fewer than the original
• Six types of personal function one fewer than the original
• Can be rotated 180 degrees in either direction same as the original

So the new flash has the same head zoom coverage, same power and GN, fewer custom and personal functions, and everyting else is basically the same. The only major change seems to be a faster recycling time, a new rechargeable battery pack (I wonder if that's required for the faster recycle time??), and maybe more/different gels (but maybe not).

Nothing at all enticing there, for me at least. I do hope that the new battery pack doesn't preculde the easy use of AA batteries, eneloops work just great in Speedlites (and by easy use, I mean no need for a cassette to hold the AA's, etc.). Even worse would be that the flash only works with the new rechargeable battery (but I can see the possiblity of that, more $$ for Canon to sell battery packs, although I'd also expect a big backlash for that).

 

[romanr74]

Re: Canon Speedlite 600 EX II-RT & EF-M 28mm f/3.5 IS STM Specifications

Would be even more impressed with an refresh of the MT-24EX. It's long overdue for an overhaul.

[snip]
This is the only flash refresh I'm interested in.

[snip]

If Canon manages to make the MT-24EX to your specs, I'd buy one without hesitation.

Hi guys!
I can understand your passion for macro flashes but maybe after just about 10 posts it's a little bit too early to hijack this thread, isn't it?

My apologies sir

I forget my place here

LOL

 

[neuroanatomist]

Images are up now. The ring flash looks promising:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/2016/05/ef-m28mm-f38-is-stm.html&usg=ALkJrhia8C9y0vBROksBEPQaIyktANk2EQ

Interesting! Would prefer a 1:1 macro, but a 28mm 1:1 would have an uber-short working distance anyway. The ring light is an interesting and very nice addition. With the plastic mount, this is likely to be reasonably priced. Will probably sell quite well, I may even buy one...

 

[rrcphoto]

Images are up now. The ring flash looks promising:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/2016/05/ef-m28mm-f38-is-stm.html&usg=ALkJrhia8C9y0vBROksBEPQaIyktANk2EQ

Interesting! Would prefer a 1:1 macro, but a 28mm 1:1 would have an uber-short working distance anyway. The ring light is an interesting and very nice addition. With the plastic mount, this is likely to be reasonably priced. Will probably sell quite well, I may even buy one...

actually it MAY be 1.2x .. note on one of those pics, you can turn the lens to a "super macro mode"

 

[neuroanatomist]

actually it MAY be 1.2x .. note on one of those pics, you can turn the lens to a "super macro mode"

We'll see, but very cool if true!

 

[Etienne]

Images are up now. The ring flash looks promising:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/2016/05/ef-m28mm-f38-is-stm.html&usg=ALkJrhia8C9y0vBROksBEPQaIyktANk2EQ

Interesting! Would prefer a 1:1 macro, but a 28mm 1:1 would have an uber-short working distance anyway. The ring light is an interesting and very nice addition. With the plastic mount, this is likely to be reasonably priced. Will probably sell quite well, I may even buy one...

actually it MAY be 1.2x .. note on one of those pics, you can turn the lens to a "super macro mode"

That would make a big difference. This lens is likely to be cheap, so I'll probably get one. Built-in light is a very nice idea, so convenient.

 

[scastle]

I am wondering if the new 600 flash will have an interface like that of the 430EX-III RT. Also, I have had a ST-E3-RT on order for about a month now with no delivery. I suspect there might be an upgrade there as well, and I just might get the new version when it finally ships.

 

[Sporgon]

Images are up now. The ring flash looks promising:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/2016/05/ef-m28mm-f38-is-stm.html&usg=ALkJrhia8C9y0vBROksBEPQaIyktANk2EQ

Interesting! Would prefer a 1:1 macro, but a 28mm 1:1 would have an uber-short working distance anyway. The ring light is an interesting and very nice addition. With the plastic mount, this is likely to be reasonably priced. Will probably sell quite well, I may even buy one...

Are you guys in the States getting the M3 now ? I can really recommend it. It is very good, in fact so good with the 22 mil pancake I'm going to start using it for my exterior panoramic shots.

 

[rrcphoto]

CR:

digicam info SPECIFICALLY states maximum magnification is 1.2 times, where do you get your .50x max magnification from?

not to mention having a "super macro mode" turn wouldn't make much sense if it was just a standard 1:2 macro.

最大撮影倍率は1.2倍

- Maximum magnification is 1.2 times

 

[LDS]

The lens front design, but the light, reminds me of the old FD macro bellows lenses:

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fdlenses/fdmacro/2035macro.htm

 

[caMARYnon]

..., sounds like it will be smaller, that's a huge boon.

This is the rumored mark II: Size X 143.2Mm X 78.7Mm 122.7Mm
and this is from TDP for mark I: 79.7 x 142.9 x 124.5mm
These are millimeters, Only 0.3 mm height diference...

 

[rrcphoto]

CR:

digicam info SPECIFICALLY states maximum magnification is 1.2 times, where do you get your .50x max magnification from?

not to mention having a "super macro mode" turn wouldn't make much sense if it was just a standard 1:2 macro.

最大撮影倍率は1.2倍

- Maximum magnification is 1.2 times

just to add: we know the min focus distance is .093. this calculates out to a 1:1 macro.
http://www.kielia.de/photography/calculator/

 

[neuroanatomist]

Based off the removal of some features on the new 600 EX II-RT, sounds like it will be smaller, that's a huge boon.

What features? Somehow I doubt removing C.Fn's will make it smaller, they don't take up much space in the camera...

 

[retroreflection]

Is 24mm and 1:2 max magnification suited to dental macrophotography? I would think a small and totally integrated system would be nicer than a 70's era solution.

 

[RustyTheGeek]

Speedlite 600EX II-RT compared to the original version:

• Covers the angle of view of 20mm-200mm same as the original
• Coverage of 197ft / 60M (ISO100) same as the original
• Continuous firing is 1.5 times faster from 1.1 (CP-E4N 2 times faster at the time of use) faster recycling
• Up to 5 can control the flash of the group same as the original
• Dust and water resistent same as the original
• The new design of the accessories group adds a compact (presumably rechargeable) battery pack
• Dot matrix type liquid crystal panel same as the original
• 15 types of custom functions three fewer than the original
• Six types of personal function one fewer than the original
• Can be rotated 180 degrees in either direction same as the original

So the new flash has the same head zoom coverage, same power and GN, fewer custom and personal functions, and everyting else is basically the same. The only major change seems to be a faster recycling time, a new rechargeable battery pack (I wonder if that's required for the faster recycle time??), and maybe more/different gels (but maybe not).

Nothing at all enticing there, for me at least. I do hope that the new battery pack doesn't preculde the easy use of AA batteries, eneloops work just great in Speedlites (and by easy use, I mean no need for a cassette to hold the AA's, etc.). Even worse would be that the flash only works with the new rechargeable battery (but I can see the possiblity of that, more $$ for Canon to sell battery packs, although I'd also expect a big backlash for that).

Thanks for clarifying this. I didn't have the specs of the 600 memorized but the new specs did look very similar to what I remember the 600 already having.

But wait! What about those new/nifty COLOR filters man !!

 

[arcer]

EF-M 28mm F3.5 Macro IS STM

45mm when converted to APS-C

I'm curious about this, anyone have any guess?
If true, this is an interesting proposition and widening its market.

 

[midluk]

Nothing at all enticing there, for me at least. I do hope that the new battery pack doesn't preculde the easy use of AA batteries, eneloops work just great in Speedlites (and by easy use, I mean no need for a cassette to hold the AA's, etc.). Even worse would be that the flash only works with the new rechargeable battery (but I can see the possiblity of that, more $$ for Canon to sell battery packs, although I'd also expect a big backlash for that).

The current external CP-E4 is also called "compact battery pack". So this is likely nothing to replace the AA batteries in the unit itself. The new CP-E4N will likely be identical (at least for the connector) to the CP-E4 with more output current i.e. faster recycle times (and hopefully a slightly longer cable).

 

[BigShooter]

So, possibly smaller, with the need to use a custom battery which means more spend to buy spare batteries? Or use my current 600 lights, Eneloop batteries and change/charge as I wish with no extra spend?

No 2nd curtain sync via wireless? FFS Canon get a grip. This is an upgrade purely to squeeze more cash IMO, no obvious benefit to make me upgrade unless I am tiny and struggle with the 'massive' size of your current 600 speedlite (which I don't, BTW).

Nothing of interest here until further info and confirmed specs are released.