5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]

[Stuart]

A lot of negativity on spec belief, but its not about not topping the spec of the 1dx but instead not losing market share to the next D800/D4 or Sony Alpha - if that means AF or fps as that makes canon better than other then that is what's needed.

 

[wickidwombat]

i dont care if it has better specs than a nikon or not. what I care about a high quality working package and this list of rumoured specs basically ensure that I am eagerly awaiting to see how the AF is if it is as good as last gen 1D AF i'll be over the moon

 

[kpk1]

Canon is carrying too much on what the others do.
Everything they've done in the last years was a strategy based on Nikon's strategy.
I'm sure they had the technological potential and I'm sure they do have and the next version when they release the actual one.
The proof is even the mirrorless system. They're the last.

 

[well_dunno]

i dont care if it has better specs than a nikon or not. what I care about a high quality working package and this list of rumoured specs basically ensure that I am eagerly awaiting to see how the AF is if it is as good as last gen 1D AF i'll be over the moon

+1

 

[Polansky]

These specs are highly doubtful.

If true who is going to bother with the 1D X.
5D3 (x) => Higher MP but same AF as the 1D X?

The 1D X would then solely be for the sport shooters who need that extra 4 frames per second.

I can clearly remember three years ago when everybody thought that the 5D2 would have better AF then the 50D at that time. Instead we got an autofocus system dating back just after the dinosaurs died.

 

[OkelloLuoStudios]

This is a waiting game and good things happen to those who wait...

 

[KitH]

Any possibility the announcement date will coincide with Focus on Imaging which is the biggest Photographic show in the UK and one of the biggest in Europe? Just a thought....

http://www.focus-on-imaging.co.uk/home.htm

Couldn't help noticing the Focus on Imaging website colour scheme. Red and black menu text on a background of Naples Yellow.

Is it some sort of a weird tribute to Kodak thing or what?

 

[Maui5150]

I can clearly remember three years ago when everybody thought that the 5D2 would have better AF then the 50D at that time. Instead we got an autofocus system dating back just after the dinosaurs died.

Hey wait!!! When did the dinosaurs die? I must have been out of the loop for a while...

Next thing you know, you will be telling me we landed on the moon...

Shesh!

 

[pravkp]

I can clearly remember three years ago when everybody thought that the 5D2 would have better AF then the 50D at that time. Instead we got an autofocus system dating back just after the dinosaurs died.

Hey wait!!! When did the dinosaurs die? I must have been out of the loop for a while...

Next thing you know, you will be telling me we landed on the moon...

Shesh!

haha.. nope the wright brothers are still testing those flying 'things'

 

[awinphoto]

These specs are highly doubtful.

If true who is going to bother with the 1D X.
5D3 (x) => Higher MP but same AF as the 1D X?

The 1D X would then solely be for the sport shooters who need that extra 4 frames per second.

I can clearly remember three years ago when everybody thought that the 5D2 would have better AF then the 50D at that time. Instead we got an autofocus system dating back just after the dinosaurs died.

Yep... why would anyone get a D3, D3s, D4 when you could get a D700... ehhh... I mean D800. On a serious note, the main clientele that goes after the 1D series are few and far between... you got agencies, you got newspapers (the big ones), maybe some magazines who does photography in house and doesn't outsource... Professionals who are out in the field everyday where they need the features and robust body and such... For what it's worth, National Geographics photographers shoot 5d's. Sports Illustrated, pretty much those who need it as a tool because any other body would fall short some way some how. No offense neuro, but there are very few amateurs splurging $6000-7000 on a camera body to take pics of kids and family, however there are a few. Those who need it as a tool will buy the 1dx regardless what the 5d comes out with. Those people are as hardset on those cameras as 5d users are with full frame quality. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

[wrack_of_lamb]

Is that a better deal than a D800 at $4000???

Now consider that the admin of NR suggests the D800 will be $3000 ($3900 if you want the AA filter removed), and not $4000. Does a $300 difference matter now? Maybe not if you don't feel like selling lenses and acquiring new ones, but then again it depends on your photography needs. You mention sports work, so if the D800 is 4 fps you probably won't be tempted. But others might.

 

[avian]

if the NEW dslr got an 16:9 lcd screen is it not more plausible that it would be the new cinema dslr (3C) ?
The whole layout seems to be much more suited towards filming with dedicated film buton, quick switchrate button,maybe fast zoom/crop buton.

The current 5d mark2 is still a beast of a camera for fotography and it would make much more sens for the mark3 to be a new higher megapixel/resolution monster.

with the intergration of video in the 5d canon opened a new pandora's box of possibilities wich they now seem keen to excel in.

Is it not possible to fit an 16:9 FF sensor? does the lens image circle alow for a larger width censor?

 

[Maui5150]

Numbers I have heard:

D400 = $1999
D800 = $3499
D4s = $5499

Seems like the price of the D800 from NR seems about $500 low.

Any bets?

 

[awinphoto]

Numbers I have heard:

D400 = $1999
D800 = $3499
D4s = $5499

Seems like the price of the D800 from NR seems about $500 low.

Any bets?

There are so many things that can change up to the day of the release and or announcement including specs/features and pricing... You'd be better betting on the superbowl than speculating on a camera at this point

 

[BDD]

Not sure where you're getting your pricing information from Maui. The D4 already has a confirmed debut price of $6000 US and $6300 CAD.

The D800 is "rumoured" to be $3000 w/ AA and $3900 w/o AA. Which I think is too much. But in light of the damage done by the quake in Japan and flooding in Thailand...some of this added cost might be to recover some cost to rebuild. Nikon just got some insurance money. I think it was around 7 million (1st payment) but there is supposedly around 143 million dollars worth of damage.

Not sure if Canon headquarters or their factory took much damage. The cost of the 1D-X seems more or less "fair" for a flagship model. Though $2799.99 for the 5D3 is a slight increase over what I believe the debut price of the 5D2 was by a few hundred dollars. I was hoping for $2500 or less. But paying around $2800 is a lot better than paying Nikon prices for their D800 models IMHO.

Again, all I'm hoping for with the 5D3 is the specs recently listed here at CR + the native ISO of the 1D-X 100-51,200 (max 204,800). And I'll be putting in my order.

 

[dswatson83]

I do think the 22MP would be right on. I doubt the 61point AF though and think a 21 point would be more realistic and fine for almost everyone. I'm guessing the camera won't quite hit 6fps on 1 digic5 @22MP so i'm thinking just under 5fps would be more realistic and again, fine for most people.

I think it would be dumb to replace the 24-70 f/2.8 with a non IS version. Is anyone really complaining about that lens?
A new 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8 would be nice (Nikon has put out both recently). It really sucks that no one has a stabilized lens at f/2.8 with less than 70mm for full frame cameras. In a world of DSLR video especially, they really need to pump in some IS. This is making me want a Sony.

 

[pedro]

Again, all I'm hoping for with the 5D3 is the specs recently listed here at CR + the native ISO of the 1D-X 100-51,200 (max 204,800). And I'll be putting in my order.

If the native ISO of the next 5D is ISO 51200, what does that look like in RAW. Too bad that there are still no 1Dx RAW samples available, and how usable will ISO 102400 be?

 

[awinphoto]

It really sucks that no one has a stabilized lens at f/2.8 with less than 70mm for full frame cameras. In a world of DSLR video especially, they really need to pump in some IS. This is making me want a Sony.

Except with video, you cannot really use the stabilizer because you can hear the humming in the audio unless you strip out the audio and use music or an external recording device...

 

[Maui5150]

Numbers I was quoting were for last year, so more of a line in the sand and seeing where things fall

I found it interesting that the D4 basically went up greatly from rumored price from Thom Hogan back summer of last year, to the yes, you are correct, closer to the 6K range.

He was speculating on the D800 also being more of a 22MP, so if delivered is 36MP, I tend to like my numbers, or in fact, could again be low.

So if the D700 sold in the low to mid $2K range, and the D800 is such a huge upgrade (3x sensor size, better ISO, etc) is only a few hundred more really rational or logical.

Seriously. B&Hs price recently on the D700 was $2700 and that is a 12 MP camera. The newer 36MP version is only going to be $3000?

Sort of off topic since this is more related to the 5DX, 5DIII or what ever it will be in single or multiple versions, but everyone is expecting the official Nikon release in the next week, so I am just interested if say the D800 is say 36MP, but also is $3500 or upwards of $4K, does people view on Canon's pricing get re-adjusted as well.

 

[npherno]

I would LOVE to be wrong, but how could this camera be real? What differentiates it from the 1DX? (ie. is there $4100 in difference?)

Not to be a hater, but I think this sounds more like a wish list... my wish list.. =) IF it's true, I'll be ordering mine asap... if not than i'll go sulk in my room.

+1 on these. It's a nice wish list. Wishes don't often come true. But Canon's goal is to make money, total profit is what matters, not profit per camera line. This may represent a strategic shift - combine the 1-series lines to a single body to reduce R&D costs, put top technology in an 'affordable' camera that to the casual eye looks a LOT like the top of the line pro camera, which boosts sales of that 5-series model (a great price for a baby 1D X), and the unit sales of the 5-series more than makes up for lost sales on the 1D X.

If this is real, they are going to be very, very popular. After suffering with the banding and AF issues of various models this could be the one we have been waiting for.