A Bit of EOS 5D Mark IV & EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
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I wonder, if I come from a completly different planet (where noone hears you scream), but when I can see ppl debating 7 vs higher fps, etc., I think to myself - who the hell, apart from the sport shooters, ever needs more than 3fps? Man, we have a studio and as we are limited by strobes, we are used to ... wait. Doing some weddings, once again - who needs more than 3 fps? Are you going to be a big boy, because your penis is longer than that?
What I can see though, is a bunch of fools, standing in concerts, holding their uber super expensive DSLRs above their heads, doing a blind shots, instead of admitting, that the swivel LCD might be useful after all.
Also - why do they waste the potential with the f4 kit lens? Don't we have 1.4 to 2.8 options? Not sure what kind of the camera I want, but it is - don't care about fps, need super high iso performance, swivel or detachable LCD, video, mfa, next gen dpaf, wi-fi, dual card.
What I can see though, is a bunch of fools, standing in concerts, holding their uber super expensive DSLRs above their heads, doing a blind shots, instead of admitting, that the swivel LCD might be useful after all.
Also - why do they waste the potential with the f4 kit lens? Don't we have 1.4 to 2.8 options? Not sure what kind of the camera I want, but it is - don't care about fps, need super high iso performance, swivel or detachable LCD, video, mfa, next gen dpaf, wi-fi, dual card.
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-pekr- said:
Depends on your studio lights. I only have PCB Einsteins but I can easily shoot 8fps at lower power with them. Still life's? Sure 1 frame an hour is fine, shoot something that is alive and has emotions? Then trying to catch the instant in time sucks at 3fps.
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Kids playing games....-pekr- said:
dog catching a ball or frisby.....
birds in flight and particularly landing.....
the kitten playing in a paper bag....
being artsy with dripping water.....
fun with multiple exposure sequences....
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dilbert said:
No not at all. If somebodies expression changes for the better a series of images has a much better chance of getting 'the one' than not. I am a low volume shooter but know when a sequences might pay dividends.
dilbert said:
That was me. http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=28903.msg573054#msg573054
The point is in sport the peak moment is often predictable, especially in a fast moving game like tennis, and when I learnt to shoot it frame rates were not high enough to spray and pray. On the other hand a portrait session can be entirely unpredictable and could easily take more images than a tennis match.
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kevl said:I didn't know it was that loud. I'm surprised by how quiet the 7D2 is. The 1DX2... well that's outside of my budget.
Have you ever heard machine gun shooting? Well, put 1DX next to it at full speed you still wouldn't hear the machine gun under the 1DX.
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tpatana said:kevl said:I didn't know it was that loud. I'm surprised by how quiet the 7D2 is. The 1DX2... well that's outside of my budget.
Have you ever heard machine gun shooting? Well, put 1DX next to it at full speed you still wouldn't hear the machine gun under the 1DX.
The 1DX and the 1DX MkII might not have silent, 'silent' modes, but they are a darn sight quieter than the Nikon D* series quite modes.
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My P/S has a 100picture per second burst mode..... As we transition to mirrorless technologies, high frame rates will become normal and loud shutters will be a distant memory.....dilbert said:
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privatebydesign said:
The peak may be predictable but capturing it is a different matter. As usual, technology changes expectations - merely capturing a bird in flight was enough to make people go 'wow', now it has to be pin sharp with the wings in the right position. In soccer, just having the ball in the same frame as someone heading it was enough, now it has to be within inches of the head. And why do you see so many more 'peak action' photos? Simple - technology. I remember the same comments when motordrives first came in on film cameras.
Ask a pro if they would go back to single-shot camera...(would you?)
There are two reasons I don't 'spray and pray' - firstly it shows my improving skills and secondly having to go through 20,000 photos after a day's shoot would be more than enough for me to give up photography.
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High frame rate is a tool. You use it when you need it. If you don't need it, then don't use it. If you never need it, then don't deny others the use of that tool.
My 7D2 does 10FPS. I rarely use it, but when I do, it is great to have.
My 7D2 does 10FPS. I rarely use it, but when I do, it is great to have.
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dilbert said:
You might, I don't. I shoot multiple images to make sure I get that one fleeting expression especially when working with people who are not professional models.
Bouquet tosses used to be staged, that isn't the norm now, now people want peak expression and height in a flower toss. I never did dance floor shots with dragged shutter and 'artistic license' with blurred background lights with medium format film, now it is common and completely unpredictable, the kind of thing throw away digital has liberated.
By the way, I have and used 10fps film cameras, my current digital shoots 5fps, I'll use whatever I have for whatever I'm shooting.
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