A New Nifty Fifty Coming [CR1]

[siegsAR]

That's true, although it doesn't look as if this lens will have IS from the rumour so far.

Yeah, from 52mm to 49mm filter size, I'd think there'll be no IS too; plus the price-point.

 

[bereninga]

Glad this is just a CR1. 49mm filter size makes me think it's a pancake. That's sooo tiny!

 

[JonAustin]

Like most here, I was hoping for a 50/1.4 IS ring USM in line with the optical and build quality of the 24-, 28- and 35mm lenses introduced in 2012. I'm making do with the 50/2.5 compact macro, as I've read too many stories about the fragility of the 1.4's AF system.

I waited 10+ years for the 100-400 II to arrive, even though it was proclaimed a unicorn right up until the month prior to its official announcement. I'm keeping the faith that Canon will eventually produce the 50mm lens that so many of us are waiting for with our wallets open.

 

[Zv]

Just CR1 so no point in getting panties in a twist over it but even if this is true I'd buy it as long as it's decent wide open, which almost all recent lenses have been. This would be a huge upgrade from the soft and mushy, in my opinion largely useless, thrifty fifty at f/1.8. Anyone who has used it will agree it needs to be stopped down a bit so really you end up at best f/2.2 or above. I'll even take f/2 just sharp wide open is all I want.

The EF-M 22 STM is great at f/2, I'd be very happy with an EF-M 50 f/1.8 if that is what this turns out to be.

Win win. Bring it.

 

[Luds34]

Booooooo!

I was just thinking of selling my Sigma 50 (non Art) in anticipation of an updated 50 f/1.4 from Canon. I guess I should hold on to that for now.

 

[sagittariansrock]

Not another STM, come on...
I hate the slower focusing speed and focusing by wire of STMs...

 

[Luds34]

I'm guessing that the most logical thing would be an ef-m 50mm. It's the one lens I miss! There are others though The 50 1.4 replacement should be in line with the 24, 28 and 35 IS lenses. And please stop bashing the 50 1.4, for it's size and price it's still a great lens!

That's an interesting take. Lord knows we could use some more native EF-M lenses. A new M prime in the 50mm focal length would certainly interest this gentleman.

 

[DominoDude]

I have a hard time seeing this as the most needed lens in the standard prime segment. And that filter size...?

 

[Luds34]

Not another STM, come on...
I hate the slower focusing speed and focusing by wire of STMs...

I will agree with you on the focus by wire, as I find it very annoying as well. I couldn't imagine doing video with manual focus. However, the focus speeds of the non pancake lenses that I have used have all been very fast to lock focus. Not quite USM speeds, but right there. The EF-M 18-55 and EF-S 18-135, both STM I've used on numerous occasions and focus speed has never been an issue.

Now, I also have the EF 40mm, EF-S 24mm, and EF-M 22mm pancakes, and they leave much to be desired in terms of focus speed. Night and day difference compared to the "full size" STM lenses.

 

[vscd]

49 mm filter thread? Why? Why not keeping the common 52 mm to avoid replacing the filters?

You can easily step down from 52 to 49 with your existing filters. Adapters are available for $2 or less.

Is STM the only advantage?

For me STM is an disadvantage. It's not bad, but I don't like wired Focus and for me it's even noisier (despite what they claim).

No IS? Why not a pancake?

We don't know yeat. But 50mm 1.8 without IS would be a shame, really.

But I think all those complains about a bad bokeh, because of the smaller entry-diameter, are nonsense. A Zeiss 50mm f1.5 or Leica 50mm 1.4 are even smaller and quite good. Let's wait and see what's coming.

 

[mrzero]

If this is an EF-M lens, I say great news (assuming it is sold in the US). That whole set-up needs more attention and more native lenses. The 49mm filter thread really suggests EF-M to me. Those lenses have wacky filter sizes (43mm for the 22, 55mm for the 11-22).

If this is an EF lens, I'm extremely disappointed. I really wanted to see the 50mm IS prime lens (and the 85mm) that has been rumored for a while. And the STM does not really pose any advantage for me. I'd rather have a proper USM with full-time manual focus.

 

[Sibir Lupus]

To me, this rumored 50mm prime lens with STM sounds like a replacement for the current 50mm f/1.8 II. The current one is out of date are far as focusing motor and build quality. A refresh with a STM and better build would make it like the EF 40mm f/2.8 and probably around $200 max. This would also leave room for the rumored 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.8 with ring type USM and IS in the $500-$600 range. If for some reason this rumored lens is an EF-M 50mm prime lens then I'll be just as happy as more EF-M lenses for my EOS M is always a good thing .

 

[anthonyd]

In my book the Canon 50/1.8 lost the title "nifty fifty" when the Yongnuo came out. The lens was never considered nifty because of it's quality, but because of it's value/price ratio and at almost half the price (let alone slightly better optics), the Yongnuo is very hard to beat.

 

[Sabaki]

But why?

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

Why is everybody hating on the STM Lens it's the future of nearly all the canon L lenses
Canon what's pro glass L lens and semi pro glass with lower prices and lower or no weather sealing
What's all the hate towars stm

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Why is everybody hating on the STM Lens it's the future of nearly all the canon L lenses
Canon what's pro glass L lens and semi pro glass with lower prices and lower or no weather sealing
What's all the hate towars stm

I do not understand why some people hate STM. I challenge anyone to show me an STM model that has become lower than the model it replaced.

Maybe 24-105 STM?
Do Not.
The 24-105 STM actually replaces the mediocre 28-135mm.

 

[vscd]

I do not understand why some people hate STM

You never focus manually, right?

 

[Marsu42]

I do not understand why some people hate STM.

I don't hate them, but Canon managed to release them w/o sealing which simply is too risky for what I do. I had my share of repair bills, and on the long run it's less expensive to buy the L model.

I challenge anyone to show me an STM model that has become lower than the model it replaced.

It's not only that: Because they're working and releasing stm, they're *not* doing so on their legacy usm / L line. If there wouldn't be any fancy new stm around, we might have long seen a 35L2, updated 50/1.4, maybe 180L2 macro and whatnot.

 

[NancyP]

If this is inexpensive and as good as the pancake lenses, it will be a good addition to the landscape photographer's kit. Let's see: 880 gram Sigma Art 50, vs 200 gram Nifty Fifty III, hauled up 1000 ft elevation, along with tripod, camera, other lenses. If lightweight lens A gives (nearly) as good quality as heavyweight lens B at f/8, lens A is worth a look.

Yes, STM is a PITA for manual focusing, which is all I do on landscape shots on-tripod. One can make focus-by-wire (all STM works this way) work, but it takes longer than for a USM or manual focus lens.

 

[davidcl0nel]

Maybe this is a budget replacement, to hold the 100$ mark. Maybe lower, because a new construction can be more cheaper.

If they release a 50 1.8 IS (or 1.4!), it wouldn't cost 100 bucks, maybe 300-400 - and they have to produce the old model anyway. So both lenses will be replaced soon.
After the 50MP announcement, there should be a 50/85 replacement, than you can buy a complete setup with great lenses, zoom and primes which can serve this MP range even in the edges.