If true, this news is underwhelming.
Another year or two of this and I may be heading over to the dark side.
Another year or two of this and I may be heading over to the dark side.
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A Rundown of Canon at Photokina
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wsmith96 said:I was hopeful for an updated 100-400, but maybe next year
This one is baffling because it's the obvious companion lens for the 7D II. I'm wondering if Canon took a long hard look at the Tokina 150-600 and decided that they had to go back to the drawing board to come up with something competitive.
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It really depends what you are looking for. I know many people who, like myself are waiting to go FF. Today I do not see a good and affordable standard zoom option on FF. The 24-70 f4 changes focus when stopping down, the 24-105 has high risk of flex cable breaking after about 2 years, the 24-70 f2.8 is too expensive. So if the new 24-105 comes in optically fine like all recent Canon lenses, that could open the door to FF.lycan said:
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Maximilian said:Except for the 7D2 (depending on final specs and more sensor details) quite disappointing news list :-\ :'(
The 7D2 won't be on my list so I was hoping for more new "semi-/professional" lenses, like a 50mm or other primes, of course the new 100 - 400L, but for this I now won't believe in any new lens until it is availabe everywhere
So good to know that I don't have any time to go to photokina because a little earlier I was quite tempted :
The AF might be awesome, but other than that it sounds awfully conservative for such an exceptionally long wait since the 7D. Almost two years ago, a top exec from Canon DSLRs had even said that the 7D2 would be utterly revolutionary and break entirely new ground. Maybe they are managing to keep the good stuff from leaking? If it uses the same 70D sensor, same DPAF, lacks 4k, doesn't improve DR, how did this take so long to release? I guess they were waiting on the '1DX2' next, next gen AF?
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
That's a little more than he actually said. Here's the best translation I've seen:
http://www.canonwatch.com/interview-with-canons-tian-rong-makoto-7d-ii-not-a-story-of-the-day-so-far/
"And while we are, of course, developing its successor, it’ll be one that incorporates a certain number of innovative technologies. We will not be putting out a product with merely better specs, but one that has evolved into new territory."
"Innovative technologies" and "evolved into new territory" doesn't exactly mean "revolutionary".
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MichaelHodges said:
I keep coming back to that post from JapaneseCanonfangirls where they claim that Canon has decided they can get away with releasing underwhelming bodies, with older sensors for the mid and upper mid-range, because people feel too looked in by their lens collections and Canon's nice lenses and UI and that Canon execs point to their sales and say hey we can get away with it so why spend $$$$$$ on new sensors and pushing full steam ahead.
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Lee Jay said:
hmm maybe
but even for that lower standard, this is close, but I guess the new territory is full on 1 series level AF and the innovative tech is the DPAF from the 7D and we can forget 4k or new levels of sensor performance so yeah I guess it fits, but then again wouldn't 1 series AF and 10fps vs 8fps simply be better specs? Of course I suppose almost anything would (other than say when 5D2 introduced video, that was new territory)
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
It could also include something to do with that "Lens electronic MF", whatever that is, or time synchronizing. Maybe even the servo AF in video is sufficiently improved over the 70D to be considered "innovative".
We'll find out when they announce it, I suppose.
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Lee Jay said:
And my 24-70 F/4L IS is terrific as well. Light, compact, nearly as sharp as the 24-70 2.8 II, IS, fast focusing and a decent hand-held macro option as well. It's a terrific tool.
I generally tweak aperture before I focus, so I haven't noticed any focus-shift. In Tomri's hands, though, that might be a big deal.
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Manufacturers – not just Canon – are less and less likely to make big announcements at trade shows. There is too much risk that someone else's announcement will step on yours. Look at Nikon – their "big" announcement is likely to be another full frame body option. Not exactly groundbreaking.
Others may think the 7D announcement is underwhelming, but no other manufacturer appears poised to make a big splash. The 7D might actually end up owning Photokina.
Others may think the 7D announcement is underwhelming, but no other manufacturer appears poised to make a big splash. The 7D might actually end up owning Photokina.
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unfocused said:
Agree 100%. Folks on this forum are likely not to be pleased unless the sensor is some SkyNet-powered darkness explorer that spits out noise free frames at ISO 12,800, but that isn't going to stop Canon from making a very loud racket about the launch of their new flagship crop body. Remember the 5D3 launch? That was a red-carpet over-the-top affair and everyone heard about it. Expect a similar-level Richter-scale event for the 7D2 regardless of what's under the hood.
So this very well may be the loudest splash at Photokina despite it possibly not wowing everyone.
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I would love for that to be the reason for the delay in the 100-400mm update. Despite the Tamron's obvious flaws I would think they've carved quite a little corner in the not-insanely expensive supertelezoom market.DanN said:
Do I think that is the actual reason? Unfortunately no. I think Canon is just content with the offering they have so far and have yet to feel the pinch/need to respond yet.
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pknight said:
I've also seen that speculation. It refers to manual focus. People would love an automated AFMA like FoCal provides, IIRC Canon had a patent of that sort, but who knows if it'll ever see the light of day given that Canon sort of recommends against doing AFMA in their manual, possibly becuase of the implication that it corrects a 'problem'.
In this case, "Lens Electronic MF" is merely a setting that allows you to enable or disable the electronic manual focus of lenses which utilize electronic MF (aka focus-by-wire) – the 85L I and II, some of the old non-IS supertele lenses, a couple of others with USM, and I suppose the new STM lenses as well. I'm not even sure why CR Guy called it out with a bullet point. It's a 'feature' that both the 5DIII and 1D X have, as well.
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CANONisOK said:
Canon's lens development cycles (except for maybe their 18-55 crop kit lenses) are long and carefully planned out. I'd be stunned if they'd go back to the drawing board on a lens that was pretty far along just based on one competitive offering.
I suppose it might happen if Nikon really hit it out of the park on a pro staple lens like a 24-70 or 70-200, but redirecting / setting new goals on a lens is a massive disruption to many people, materials and dollars that already have momentum in one direction. I really doubt Canon does this very often unless it's very early in the development effort.
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