Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]

[vscd]

The BEST thing on this rumour? The 5D Mark 3 will get cheaper real soon!

 

[whatta]

excited to see the new Eos XxxD, although wouldnt mind to see announcement of Ef 60mm macro along with it.

Full frame macro lens to be announced with a rebel?

 

[whatta]

What surprises me the most is the idea that all these announcements would come together ... Is it common for Canon to release several major products like these all together? Because these all do feel like major announcements, first high MP cameras, first rectilinear lens to 11mm, the Rebel which is always their biggest seller, the M3 ... arguably lower profile, but still an important step for the future of the line. It feels like each of those would make a big enough splash if they were announced on their own, I'd be somewhat surprised to see them all announced together (or close to each other) at the risk of stealing each other's thunder ...

Perhaps they are not separate announcements.

Perhaps it is a 53mp M3 with a 11-24 F4 kit lens ;D

haha, very funny

 

[whatta]

I am curious if there will be two Rebels, like previously predicted, or just one. I rather liked the idea of a "Rebel Plus" that had some fancier features on it but was still cheaper than a 70D. Guess all will be revealed next week! ;D

hopefully 750d + SL2.

 

[mackguyver]

I wish we knew more about pricing. I'm trying to decide what to do - I'd really like to order the 11-24 f/4 AND the 5DS R, but I don't know if that's doable. I wonder if the 5DS(R) will be around 5DIII prices or will move up into the $4k US range.

 

[PureClassA]

I wish we knew more about pricing. I'm trying to decide what to do - I'd really like to order the 11-24 f/4 AND the 5DS R, but I don't know if that's doable. I wonder if the 5DS(R) will be around 5DIII prices or will move up into the $4k US range.

It'll be sniffing $4k but hoping for closer to $3500. If I was Canon I'd be leery about breaking that $4k cap considering their competition, and they have shown us some very surprising things lately price-wise. We still don't have anything concrete on the 11-24 yet do we?

 

[mackguyver]

I wish we knew more about pricing. I'm trying to decide what to do - I'd really like to order the 11-24 f/4 AND the 5DS R, but I don't know if that's doable. I wonder if the 5DS(R) will be around 5DIII prices or will move up into the $4k US range.

It'll be sniffing $4k but hoping for closer to $3500. If I was Canon I'd be leery about breaking that $4k cap considering their competition, and they have shown us some very surprising things lately price-wise. We still don't have anything concrete on the 11-24 yet do we?

No, I think the latest was somewhere around $2,800-3,000. I'm definitely leaning towards the lens (1st) as more pixels is more of a want than a need, and I've been lusting over the lens since it was first rumored. OTOH, I can still sell my 5DIII and put that towards the camera, so I'm hoping to buy both.

 

[Tugela]

I wish we knew more about pricing. I'm trying to decide what to do - I'd really like to order the 11-24 f/4 AND the 5DS R, but I don't know if that's doable. I wonder if the 5DS(R) will be around 5DIII prices or will move up into the $4k US range.

It'll be sniffing $4k but hoping for closer to $3500. If I was Canon I'd be leery about breaking that $4k cap considering their competition, and they have shown us some very surprising things lately price-wise. We still don't have anything concrete on the 11-24 yet do we?

Since the camera is presumably aimed at "professionals", we should expect Canon's version of professional pricing, so likely over 5k.

Canon does not appear to be paying any attention to what the competition are doing in recent years, so don't expect pricing to compete now.

 

[PureClassA]

I wish we knew more about pricing. I'm trying to decide what to do - I'd really like to order the 11-24 f/4 AND the 5DS R, but I don't know if that's doable. I wonder if the 5DS(R) will be around 5DIII prices or will move up into the $4k US range.

It'll be sniffing $4k but hoping for closer to $3500. If I was Canon I'd be leery about breaking that $4k cap considering their competition, and they have shown us some very surprising things lately price-wise. We still don't have anything concrete on the 11-24 yet do we?

Since the camera is presumably aimed at "professionals", we should expect Canon's version of professional pricing, so likely over 5k.

Canon does not appear to be paying any attention to what the competition are doing in recent years, so don't expect pricing to compete now.

Explain the 7D2 and the new 100-400mkII then? Explain the 16-35 f4? Explain the 5D3 at $3500 which is aimed squarely at the very heart of professional photographers? The 1DX is as well , but it's a different beast altogether.

PS - Notice the big rebates and drops on the 5D3 recently? At BH post rebate it's $2799. you think Canon is dumping money down this cuz the 5DS is gonna be $5000+? No. Were that the case, they would leave the 5D3 alone. The price drops and rebates are to make room in the $3500-4000 range for the new bodies. Read between the lines.

 

[PureClassA]

And I know how much everyone here adores Ken Rockwell, but my money is on him when he's calling $3799 for the 5DS (also says release March 17th)

http://kenrockwell.com/canon/5ds.htm

 

[DRR]

And I know how much everyone here adores Ken Rockwell, but my money is on him when he's calling $3799 for the 5DS (also says release March 17th)

http://kenrockwell.com/canon/5ds.htm

I bet he's right. $3500-$4000. He just picked an easy number right in the middle to minimize how "off" he would be.

For launch, I don't think they need to price it any lower. It's the kind of thing where if you must have it, a few hundred, or even a thousand dollars, isn't going to stop you. You'll make up the difference after one job.

The 5D III is still a very capable general purpose FF camera, I don't think the 5Ds is a camera every wedding shooter will be itching to upgrade to right off the bat like the 5D III was.

 

[PureClassA]

Popphoto magazine made a mistake on its february issue, probably showing photos of the next issue. Seems like the next Canon bodies. Sorry for my english!
Att
Durvile

Got a link to this page? Website or actual magazine itself??

 

[jrista]

Hmm. A 53mp FF camera makes more sense to me than a 50.6mp camera. If it's 53mp, it's the same pixel size as the 7D II. If it's 50.6mp, it's got larger pixels than the 7D II. Seems logical (given how Canon seems to think) for them to reuse pixel technology.


Anything is possible, though...

 

[PureClassA]

Seems like 53MP is the total count with 50.6 as the usable area, according to rumor specs that is

 

[StudentOfLight]

And I know how much everyone here adores Ken Rockwell, but my money is on him when he's calling $3799 for the 5DS (also says release March 17th)

http://kenrockwell.com/canon/5ds.htm

I bet he's right. $3500-$4000. He just picked an easy number right in the middle to minimize how "off" he would be.

For launch, I don't think they need to price it any lower. It's the kind of thing where if you must have it, a few hundred, or even a thousand dollars, isn't going to stop you. You'll make up the difference after one job.

The 5D III is still a very capable general purpose FF camera, I don't think the 5Ds is a camera every wedding shooter will be itching to upgrade to right off the bat like the 5D III was.

KR says: "12 channel parallel readout." That would be extremely disappointing for anyone hoping to get cleaner shadows in the low ISOs and more dynamic range. For me at least 65% of my photography is at ISO 100-200.

 

[jeffa4444]

If the new cameras come in at $ 3500 - 4000 then Canon will get limited sales. Globally full-frame cameras costing more than $ 2250 account for less than 1 - 2% of camera sales and whilst they may retain much better margins they will not offset declining sales of all other cameras. DSLRs are a mature market, cameras only released 12-18 months ago are already 33% less in many cases and disposable income in Europe in particular is still contrained.

The Canon 5d MKIII moved up considerably in price from the Canon 5d MKII to push it further would be commercial suicide.

 

[AvTvM]

If the new cameras come in at $ 3500 - 4000 then Canon will get limited sales. Globally full-frame cameras costing more than $ 2250 account for less than 1 - 2% of camera sales and whilst they may retain much better margins they will not offset declining sales of all other cameras. DSLRs are a mature market, cameras only released 12-18 months ago are already 33% less in many cases and disposable income in Europe in particular is still contrained.
The Canon 5d MKIII moved up considerably in price from the Canon 5d MKII to push it further would be commercial suicide.

+1

 

[3kramd5]

KR says: "12 channel parallel readout."

He also says 1080/60p, 7 FPS, ISO 100-16,000, and some other stuff that doesn't match any of the other rumor sites. Shrug, it's all guesswork at this point.

 

[tron]

KR says: "12 channel parallel readout."

He also says 1080/60p, 7 FPS, ISO 100-16,000, and some other stuff that doesn't match any of the other rumor sites. Shrug, it's all guesswork at this point.

7fps (for full frame mode) would be nice but I do not believe it even for a dual digic 6!

 

[PureClassA]

KR says: "12 channel parallel readout."

He also says 1080/60p, 7 FPS, ISO 100-16,000, and some other stuff that doesn't match any of the other rumor sites. Shrug, it's all guesswork at this point.

7fps (for full frame mode) would be nice but I do not believe it even for a dual digic 6!

Isn't the original 7D strapped with dual Digic 4? That was 8FPS and 18.1MP The 7D2 is Dual Digic 6 and 20.2MP with 10FPS. Seems to me there's more headroom in those processors to allow a couple more FPS than 5 even with 50MP. I suspect it's more an issue with the shutter assembly than the CPU power. This of course is assuming the rumor specs are ACTUAL specs. the 5D3 only did 6FPS at 22MP with a single Digic 5+. They save the super high end shutters for the 1 series.