Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[Mt Spokane Photography]

So a RAW file will be what..60-70mb?

The raw NEF files from my 36MP D800 ran from 40mmb to 52 mb, depending on the amount of noise and detail. Most ran 42-44 MB. Remember, these are compressed files, open them up, and they suddenly can become 100mb files. I opened one of the larger NEF files, it was a 52.3 MB NEF, and uncompressed to 103.5MB in Photoshop.

Based on this, I'd expect to see 60-90mb CR2's and having the uncompressed files be 120-150MB. Its no problem to open one in lightroom or photoshop, but DXO 10 elite takes a long time for each action.

 

[Marsu42]

What is: RGB-TR metering sensor? I am sure that is a total newbie question sorry.

Never mind what it is, it'll be plenty expensive to it has to be terrific ... and please don't embarrass the experts and copy/paste sites by asking questions like this, it's like the emperor's new clothes :->

 

[dufflover]

(this is me commenting on the updated rumor, not anyones' posts in particular)
I'm actually quite surprised it can do 5fps, although the all important buffer capacity is usually something that people only find out from hands-on based reviews rather than spec sheets unfortunately. If it has an ok buffer depth, say 15 shots (I base this on the typically less 60D buffer, not on calculations) then it seems pretty decent to me even for full resolution casual sports/wildlife and that's not taking into account faster crop modes. Obviously very short of more specialised cams like 7D/70D/1-series but imo still flexible enough given the image sizes being dealt with.

 

[bgran8]

Has there been an update on if this is in fact the Sony Exmor sensor? I apologize if someone has already mentioned it. Thanks in advance.

 

[Maiaibing]

What is: RGB-TR metering sensor? I am sure that is a total newbie question sorry.

Never mind what it is, it'll be plenty expensive to it has to be terrific ... and please don't embarrass the experts and copy/paste sites by asking questions like this, it's like the emperor's new clothes :->

Its a known Canon focusing tech. There's a good short explanation here: http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/16499/what-is-eos-itr-af
And the long authoritative Canon version here: http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2013/eos1dx_afpoint_selection_using_color_information.shtml

Its a kind of cool AF assist system, but I also think this is why the 5Ds will not offer eye focus AF (which I would still have preferred).

 

[Marsu42]

What is: RGB-TR metering sensor? I am sure that is a total newbie question sorry.

Never mind what it is, it'll be plenty expensive to it has to be terrific ... and please don't embarrass the experts and copy/paste sites by asking questions like this, it's like the emperor's new clothes :->

Its a kind of cool AF assist system, but I also think this is why the 5Ds will not offer eye focus AF (which I would still have preferred).

Thanks, "Canon’s Intelligent Tracking and Recognition", who'd have guessed.

Sounds like Canon can now do with their rgb metering what Nikon has been doing all along and given a clever fw, this is certainly very useful for tracking. Unless you're trying to track gray horses in snow like I am trying to, that is

 

[canonic]

I usually shoot at 1/125. I've had a few hit and miss at 1/180 on the 6D where my shot is catching the shutter at the bottom of the frame. Don't hVe that problem when I slow it down a half stop. Anyone else have this issue?

I had the same issue with Canon 5D2. I have been forced to shoot at 1/125, otherwise the shutter was visible in foto. It is ok when the model is not moving, otherwise ...

 

[Floydian]

I see no GPS or Wifi in the specs. For me GPS would be a very useful feature.

 

[Lawliet]

I'll toss a two stop ND on if need be but I'd prefer a higher sync speed regardless. I usually shoot at 1/125. I've had a few hit and miss at 1/180 on the 6D where my shot is catching the shutter at the bottom of the frame. Don't hVe that problem when I slow it down a half stop. Anyone else have this issue?

5D I-III do the same, 1/200s is hit and miss, to be sure 1/160s is a better choice. In the studio it's not that bad - but outdoors it hurts, considering that even with FP shutters you can reliably go twice as fast. Blur from the longer ambient exposure meets doubled work for the strobes.

 

[Isurus]

I see no GPS or Wifi in the specs. For me GPS would be a very useful feature.

Agree. How these basic features are still missing in new DSLRs is beyond me. I'm hoping they are included specs that just haven't leaked yet.

 

[Marsu42]

I'll toss a two stop ND on if need be but I'd prefer a higher sync speed regardless. I usually shoot at 1/125. I've had a few hit and miss at 1/180 on the 6D where my shot is catching the shutter at the bottom of the frame. Don't hVe that problem when I slow it down a half stop. Anyone else have this issue?

5D I-III do the same, 1/200s is hit and miss, to be sure 1/160s is a better choice.

Are you people using original Canon flashes and not the cheapest ettl cables (if any)? I'm not promoting original Canon equipment, but a shutter shadow at max. x-sync should *definitely* not be to be expected as these values obviously are rather conservative in the first place esp. on 6d. I for one never, ever experienced this, and I'm using flash all the time (though often at hss for motion fill flash).

 

[Proshooter]

I currently have a 16-35 L (series I), 24-70 L, 70-200 IS, a 2X (series I) and a Sigma 12-24
Last year CPS loaned me a 16-35 mkII, 14 L and their shortest TL (17?) to compare. The 14 was sharper than anything I currently have, the 16-35 was only slightly sharper on the edges than my current 16-35 but requires a larger filter - it's nice to have one $250 filter that works with 3 lenses. I hope the coming 11-24 is sharp, but only to replace my Sigma, I don't expect it to be close to the 14mm L.

If you don't mind losing a stop (shooting architecture, I reckon you won't) skip right past the 16-35 2.8 II and indulge in the 16-35/4 IS. Cheap(er) and bounds sharper - sharper than the 14mm/2.8 II. Or, skip that and wait for the 11-24/4 - given the recent releases Canon seems to be getting the new glass just right.

Cheers

Hey, thanks! That lens slipped under my radar and might be a good replacement for my 16-35/2.8. Even mounts a 77mm filter like my other lenses. Relatively cheap too.

 

[RLPhoto]

Is spot metering now linked to the AF point? Such a simple thing to have...

 

[wockawocka]

I'm actually quite surprised it can do 5fps, although the all important buffer capacity is usually something that people only find out from hands-on based reviews rather than spec sheets unfortunately. If it has an ok buffer depth, say 15 shots (I base this on the typically less 60D buffer, not on calculations) then it seems pretty decent to me even for full resolution casual sports/wildlife and that's not taking into account faster crop modes.

5fps is pretty good. The 645z maxes out at 3fps and the buffer craps out at 10 shots.

This sets a precedent for the 5D4 though. If it's 24mp you 'should' expect 10fps. This falls into line with the rumors on that it will be a jack of all trades. i.e. a direct competitor to the D750.

 

[3kramd5]

I usually shoot at 1/125. I've had a few hit and miss at 1/180 on the 6D where my shot is catching the shutter at the bottom of the frame. Don't hVe that problem when I slow it down a half stop. Anyone else have this issue?

Yes, but not at 1/180. I maybe catch the half a percent of the time at 1/200 on 5D bodies.

Are you people using original Canon flashes and not the cheapest ettl cables (if any)?

Not sure off the top of my head that I've ever seen it with speedlites or wired triggers. Usually notice it with elinchrom monos and triggers.

 

[wyldeguy]

What is: RGB-TR metering sensor? I am sure that is a total newbie question sorry.

Never mind what it is, it'll be plenty expensive to it has to be terrific ... and please don't embarrass the experts and copy/paste sites by asking questions like this, it's like the emperor's new clothes :->

Its a kind of cool AF assist system, but I also think this is why the 5Ds will not offer eye focus AF (which I would still have preferred).

Thanks, "Canon’s Intelligent Tracking and Recognition", who'd have guessed.

Sounds like Canon can now do with their rgb metering what Nikon has been doing all along and given a clever fw, this is certainly very useful for tracking. Unless you're trying to track gray horses in snow like I am trying to, that is

Actually it's supposed to be RGB-IR which is a color and infra-red metering system for exposure. This has very little if anything to do with autofocus. This is the same exposure metering system as in the 7D mark2

 

[lintoni]

I'm actually quite surprised it can do 5fps, although the all important buffer capacity is usually something that people only find out from hands-on based reviews rather than spec sheets unfortunately. If it has an ok buffer depth, say 15 shots (I base this on the typically less 60D buffer, not on calculations) then it seems pretty decent to me even for full resolution casual sports/wildlife and that's not taking into account faster crop modes.

5fps is pretty good. The 645z maxes out at 3fps and the buffer craps out at 10 shots.

This sets a precedent for the 5D4 though. If it's 24mp you 'should' expect 10fps. This falls into line with the rumors on that it will be a jack of all trades. i.e. a direct competitor to the D750.

Not really, the fps is also dependant on the mirror assembly and unless Canon choose to put the 1DX's mirror box into the 5D4...

 

[Lee Jay]

5D I-III do the same, 1/200s is hit and miss, to be sure 1/160s is a better choice.

Are you people using original Canon flashes and not the cheapest ettl cables (if any)? I'm not promoting original Canon equipment, but a shutter shadow at max. x-sync should *definitely* not be to be expected as these values obviously are rather conservative in the first place esp. on 6d. I for one never, ever experienced this, and I'm using flash all the time (though often at hss for motion fill flash).

Somewhat conservative with Canon Flashes. This example is from a camera with a 1/250th rating. It made 1/320th but just barely missed 1/400th.

 

[PureClassA]

Well Canonwatch.com now has another new CW3 rated rumor showing this is a Sony Sensor. That equal to a CR2 here. So 50/50. Looks like there is still life to this possibility.

 

[privatebydesign]

5D I-III do the same, 1/200s is hit and miss, to be sure 1/160s is a better choice.

Are you people using original Canon flashes and not the cheapest ettl cables (if any)? I'm not promoting original Canon equipment, but a shutter shadow at max. x-sync should *definitely* not be to be expected as these values obviously are rather conservative in the first place esp. on 6d. I for one never, ever experienced this, and I'm using flash all the time (though often at hss for motion fill flash).

Somewhat conservative with Canon Flashes. This example is from a camera with a 1/250th rating. It made 1/320th but just barely missed 1/400th.

You guys need to get out more.....

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2010/01/know-your-sync.html