Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[pedro]

Hi, just saw this at NL

"Two new 5D variants are suggested, both with a 50.6MP full frame CMOS sensor
An EOS 5DS R version will be without low-pass filter
Magnesium alloy body, dust and water sealed
Dual DIGIC6
ISO 100-6400
5 fps
High precision 61 AF points
EOS iTR AF
150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
New "fine detail" picture style
1.3x and 1.6x crop modes
Customisable "Quick Control Screen"
Time-lapse movie
Interval Timer, Bulb timer
This info (and pic) first appeared on the japanese site [DC - Google xlt]"
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdigicame-info.com%2F2015%2F01%2Feos-5ds-eos-5ds-r.html&edit-text=


http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5ds.html

 

[wockawocka]

I only have two questions:

Who made the sensor?

What's the dynamic range?

 

[adhocphotographer]

Hmmmm... 5 fps... I do a lot of wildlife as well as everything else... 5fps is not quite there.... 6 is ok...

Lets see what it is like and the reviews! It is not as though i gun it all that much anyway!

 

[keithcooper]

AA or not to AA?

Whilst I'll miss the heft and usability of a 1 series body, it's such a big increase over the 1Ds3 I use, that I'll be getting one for our architectural work.

But, which version to get?

Good to see no huge ISO or video features in the spec list (YMMV, as I expect we'll see here ;-) )

 

[Lee Jay]

I don't understand the narrow ISO range. This is the same pixel size as the 70D and 7DII which go to 12,800 and 16,000 respectively. This camera would be 1 1/3 stops better at the same final size or the same at the same enlargement ratio so I don't see why they'd restrict it so much. One of my only disappointments with my 5D was the ISO range which was 100-1600 with 3200 as the extension. It was fine for many purposes at 6400-12,800 using the underexpose and push technique.

Of course it's just a rumor so it could be wrong.

Also, where's dual pixel technology?

 

[Gormantel]

Only 6400 ISO...
The Nikon D810 has 12800 ISO.

So should we expect the Canon to be 1 Stop worse?

I hoped they would hold the status quo for the next MP jump.
But this seems to be worse than a scaled up 7D MK2.

NO DP, NO WIFI, NO GPS, NO VIDEO mentioned... let´s wait and see.

 

[SPKoko]

Also, where's dual pixel technology?

This!!! It looks like nobody in the forums is noticing the lack of dual pixel! If we get a confirmation that the camera will definitely not get dual pixel, that would be a strong indication that it is a Sony sensor...

 

[Gormantel]

Also, where's dual pixel technology?

This!!! It looks like nobody in the forums is noticing the lack of dual pixel! If we get a confirmation that the camera will definitely not get dual pixel, that would be a strong indication that it is a Sony sensor...

It´s more that you don´t notice that People notice.

 

[Gormantel]

I see there will be a "normal" 5D MK4 too.

Let´s hope it´s a 28-30MP camera with more FPS and increased DR and low ISO performance.
That´s what i really was hoping for.

 

[keithcooper]

If, as I suspect, such a camera is aimed firmly at 'detail' photographers, then it will elicit howls of derision from many quarters.

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

Does DPAF contribute to image quality at base ISO, or hinder it? If the later, then I'd not miss it one jot (particularly given the amount of manual focus shots I take).

If the design effort has gone into making a top notch stills camera rather than a glorified camcorder, then I applaud it.

Hopefully a whizzo 5D4 will be along before too long to keep the naysayers happy* ;-)

*A forlorn hope, almost by definition ;-)

 

[Gormantel]

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

how is that?
can you explain the logic behind it?

from my (limited) experience the higher the max ISO goes the better the low ISO is.

 

[traveller]

Looks like the rumours of a Sony-Canon 50MP sensor are true, even SAR states that one of his 'trusted sources' confirms this and SAR is a bit of a mouthpiece for Sony's marketing department to build hype.

If true then it looks like the Japanese camera manufacturers are in deep retreat in the face of falling DSLR sales. It looks like the Canon don't want to invest in a new fab line at this time, so they're outsourcing to Sony, at least for production. They are both scared -sales are falling and everything they try seems to fail to change this...

 

[keithcooper]

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

how is that? can you explain the logic behind it?
from my (limited) experience the higher the max ISO goes the better the low ISO is.

I don't know whether there are any significant changes in the sensor technology. This may or may not make a difference - note the 'If' at the start of the sentence.

My point was that I'm one of those users who doesn't really care about high ISO performance for my work, in that it's a nice thing to have, but not -if- it reduces aspects of performance at lower ISO.

It's why I'd hope to see a 5D4 that does 'all the stuff I don't need' and keep others happy ;-)

 

[drob]

I see there will be a "normal" 5D MK4 too.

Let´s hope it´s a 28-30MP camera with more FPS and increased DR and low ISO performance.
That´s what i really was hoping for.

I think the "regular" 5DMkIV will be more equivalent to the Nikon D750. And hopefully, in the future, the 6DII will be the rough equivalent to the D620.
Just a prediction, but it makes sense.

 

[Kairumorman]

Looks like the rumours of a Sony-Canon 50MP sensor are true, even SAR states that one of his 'trusted sources' confirms this and SAR is a bit of a mouthpiece for Sony's marketing department to build hype.

If true then it looks like the Japanese camera manufacturers are in deep retreat in the face of falling DSLR sales. It looks like the Canon don't want to invest in a new fab line at this time, so they're outsourcing to Sony, at least for production. They are both scared -sales are falling and everything they try seems to fail to change this...

both the first global shutter rumor (i gave me the name KAI) and then the sony canon partnership was send in by me.

both websites where happy to report this pure fantasy..

i still roll on the floor laughing....

 

[lintoni]

So a 30MP 1.3x mode and a 20MP 1.6x mode.

Comes packed with "extra reach" for birders

This is also the first time a Canon DSLR has had an intervalometer.

7D2?

 

[Maiaibing]

Hmmmm... 5 fps... I do a lot of wildlife as well as everything else... 5fps is not quite there.... 6 is ok...

You should expect to be able to shot 30 mpix @8 fps and 20 mpix @ 10 fps using the crop modes. This is what they are made for.

 

[Maiaibing]

Anyone want to guess on the price?

Guessing in Japan is 400.000JPY = 3.450 USD. Sounds about right to me.

 

[scyrene]

So a 30MP 1.3x mode and a 20MP 1.6x mode.

Comes packed with "extra reach" for birders

This is also the first time a Canon DSLR has had an intervalometer.

7D2?

I was gonna say...

 

[bholliman]

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

If the design effort has gone into making a top notch stills camera rather than a glorified camcorder, then I applaud it.

Hopefully a whizzo 5D4 will be along before too long to keep the naysayers happy* ;-)

+1 People buying hi-megapixal bodies would primarily be using them for landscape or product photography, where they will normally be shooting on a tripod at the lowest possible ISO. Higher ISO's make sense on a more general purpose body like the 5D Mk3 successor.