I remember upgrading to an 8Mpixel camera and thinking "WOW! This is great!!!!" We live in great times for digital imaging.overniven said:
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Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
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Famateur: Well, Lumiquest III 9" x 8" vinyl/cardstock softbox is made in the USA, as are the Lastolite TriGrip/Flip diffuser frames (I think they may off-shore the sewing of the slipcovers that go over the diffusers), and the Lastolite diffusion/reflector fabrics may be USA-made. I don't know about the gels, I think that they are USA-made also. Rogue products - some made in China (flashbender?), some in USA (injection-molded snoot/grid). Books - written in USA, printed in USA. RF triggers/ receivers - cheap ($30.00/ pair) simple ones made in China.
I think that our fantasy kit would boost the world economy some, the actual kit less so.
Famateur: Well, Lumiquest III 9" x 8" vinyl/cardstock softbox is made in the USA, as are the Lastolite TriGrip/Flip diffuser frames (I think they may off-shore the sewing of the slipcovers that go over the diffusers), and the Lastolite diffusion/reflector fabrics may be USA-made. I don't know about the gels, I think that they are USA-made also. Rogue products - some made in China (flashbender?), some in USA (injection-molded snoot/grid). Books - written in USA, printed in USA. RF triggers/ receivers - cheap ($30.00/ pair) simple ones made in China.
I think that our fantasy kit would boost the world economy some, the actual kit less so.
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wockawocka said:
Yeah.
If it has Canon DR and with the only 5fps and no improved video and no 4k then FORGET IT! It is a only a pseudo jack of all trades and not even close to a master of anything. I'd still rather use 36MP Nikon/Sony for landscapes to get the much better DR than just get the extra 14MP. The 5D3 with RAW video would surely take better 1080P and the Sony A7S does 4k. The 5fps max would be just slow enough to not quite be really comfortable for action. I surely couldn't see myself getting it. I'd get double the MP over my 5D3 but not one thing more and even go backwards for video and fps. Not for me. No way, no how.
OTOH, if it has Exmor DR and with the 50MP giving great landscape detail and fantastic reach for wildlife and 5fps and cropped mode to save space when doing wildlife.... then it becomes much more interesting.
And if it manages that plus 6fps in cropped mode then it becomes super interesting and it's one heck of a heck of a stills camera, really just about totally ideal for a low ISO aimed one (maybe the high iso is a trace weak as a compromise for ideal low ISO colors) and again other than the high ISO SNR basically the ideal all around stills cam (and it's probably decent enough with the SNR).
It would be feeble enough for video that you'd still need to spend and carry more, but as a stills cam.... nice and probably enough so to live with the video having to be gotten elsewhere. The costs in total would start becoming uncomfortable :'(, but I guess that's how it would go.
So yeah much remains to be seen.
IMO it could be a disaster of a still cam release or getting close to an ideal stills cam (fully there if it did manage 6fps in cropped mode).
Sounds like it will be a turd for video, but if the stills is truly top in every way maybe it doesn't entirely matter.
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Know what would be neat? Maybe magic lantern can do this...
If the 5Ds used the AF point to auto crop the image. That way when shooting something like birds, the FPS could go up, AND you would not have to be stuck with the center of the frame. The center of the cropped area would always be right over the focus point for 1.3 or 1.6x. That way if a bird goes into the other portions of the frame you are less likely to lose a body part due to the cropping.
Also, if the metering is good enough to track objects, it could have a fail-safe mode where if the whole subject goes out of the crop area, it reverts back to a full frame capture for that image!
Canon really needs to hire me as a product designer! This would be a brilliant feature!
If the 5Ds used the AF point to auto crop the image. That way when shooting something like birds, the FPS could go up, AND you would not have to be stuck with the center of the frame. The center of the cropped area would always be right over the focus point for 1.3 or 1.6x. That way if a bird goes into the other portions of the frame you are less likely to lose a body part due to the cropping.
Also, if the metering is good enough to track objects, it could have a fail-safe mode where if the whole subject goes out of the crop area, it reverts back to a full frame capture for that image!
Canon really needs to hire me as a product designer! This would be a brilliant feature!
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dilbert said:So a 30MP 1.3x mode and a 20MP 1.6x mode.
Comes packed with "extra reach" for birders
very nice
I wonder why they don't give these modes a fps burst like Nikon does though? Nikon hits the critical 6fps in the cropped modes. Now a fast FF mirror box is expensive, but surely they could at least put a 6fps 5D3-class mirror box in there and easily drive 20MP crop mode at 6fps no? I mean the processor wouldn't even sweat, it has so much more power than a 5D3 which already drives 23MP at 6fps.
Of course the details might not be complete, maybe it does??
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Kairumorman said:traveller said:
both the first global shutter rumor (i gave me the name KAI) and then the sony canon partnership was send in by me.
both websites where happy to report this pure fantasy..
i still roll on the floor laughing....
Wow, you're pretty cool!
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Just pondering on the ISO 6400 rumor for the 5DS...
I wonder if the explanation of the stronger color filter being the reason is just what the public is supposed to know. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a limitation built into the firmware (or even hardware), for product differentiation purposes, and not an actual limitation of the sensor itself.
I wonder if the explanation of the stronger color filter being the reason is just what the public is supposed to know. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a limitation built into the firmware (or even hardware), for product differentiation purposes, and not an actual limitation of the sensor itself.
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scyrene said:PureClassA said:
Ha! Well said
Incidentally, a lot of people are taking the high ISO level to mean it'll be poorer in low light than the 5D3. At the risk of reopening a massive can of worms, isn't it the sensor size that's important? Like, if you downscale the 50+MP to 22MP, we'd expect it to be no worse, and maybe slightly better?
Yeah they might just be rating it on how it is using all 50MP, but if comparing at the same scale as 5D3 maybe it's the same or like only 1/3 stop worse (no big deal at all).
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
I don't think anyone is promoting this camera as "jack of all trades". It seems to be designed as a master of well-lit studio, daylight and still life applications.
Demanding high frame rate and video out of that sort of camera is like expecting similar from digital medium format.
I'm sure that Canon will step up to the plate with an all-rounder in the EOS 5D IV come August... Like you, I wait in fond anticipation.
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PureClassA said:
oh no
:'( :-\ :'(just gotta hope they are wrong or they are using a new fab somehow....
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Famateur said:
Because 4k video is big for landscape video and wildlife video work, things to which this camera is well suited (depending).
Of course there might be technical issues getting video out of 50MP (you;d think you could do the same 5D3 on chip video binning though and get 4k out of it though).
Since the video on it seems to be a joke, let's hope the stills are grand slam (exmor DR at worst, top color, at least 6fps in cropped modes, AF at least as good as in 5D3).
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Machaon said:
yes but if it has Canon DR then it's not a master of studio/landscape stuff, especially not the latter
I'd rather use 36MP Exmor for that stuff than just 14MP more and worse DR.
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