Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[PureClassA]

5DS and 5DSR go together, so that's 2. The 11-24 Landscape lens is a perfect marriage to these new bodies, so you bring them out together. That's 3.

Now you have the EOS M3 and a new upper level Rebel with perhaps a new sensor or the first rebel with DPAF. Those are big news and serve a totally different market than the first 3 pieces. So that's all 5.

Canon is going to blow a big part of it's wad at CP+ which is around the anniversary of the EOS system. They want to suck as much air out the room from everyone else as possible, making all other companies seem second tier. Plus, they have the 5D4 and the 1DX2 which will likely debut later this year... In otehr words Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

 

[docsmith]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

 

[AvTvM]

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

... or maybe a "hammer powered by Sony" ;D

 

[3kramd5]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

 

[PureClassA]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

And AMD has not done terribly well ever since.

 

[PureClassA]

UPDATE: possible higher FPS in Crop. Canon designed/Sony produced?

http://www.canonwatch.com/cw2-canonsony-sensor-tidbits-sensor-designed-canon-manufactured-sony/

 

[Marsu42]

Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively.

I don't think computer cpus and digital camera systems are comparable: With each new computer customers buy, they don't care what's inside and chose the best offer. With dslr systems, when customers jump ship they probably do it for a longer time, so to turn the Canon supertanker around it'll take more than some nice new releases.

Canon will have to show the market and their shareholders that they are willing and able to compete for the next couple of technology iterations and into the mirrorless era... having a large market share doesn't protect you forever. In Canon's favor is that dslrs aren't their singular point of sale, unless some other former market leaders...

 

[3kramd5]

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

And AMD has not done terribly well ever since.

Not in the desktop market anyway. I believe they do okay with their acquisition of ATi, although there too they play second fiddle (to nVidia).

Regardless, the point was that Intel for years just kinda sat around adding a 20 more 30% more cycles per second with each iteration. Then AMD introduced the Athlon and carved up a bit of the market. That's really what lit a fire under Intel, and since they've been putting out innovative products.

We can hope that something similar will happen in digital cameras.

 

[3kramd5]

Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively.

I don't think computer cpus and digital camera systems are comparable: With each new computer customers buy, they don't care what's inside and chose the best offer. With dslr systems, when customers jump ship they probably do it for a longer time, so to turn the Canon supertanker around it'll take more than some nice new releases.

Canon will have to show the market and their shareholders that they are willing and able to compete for the next couple of technology iterations and into the mirrorless era... having a large market share doesn't protect you forever. In Canon's favor is that dslrs aren't their singular point of sale, unless some other former market leaders...

With computers, you have the enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who care which chipset they use let alone processor manufacturer. With cameras, you have enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who are interested in architecture and low-level performance.

With computers, you have generic users who care about price and what's bundled. With cameras, you have generic users who care about price and what's bundled.

Corporations like Canon mostly have to cater to the generic user; there aren't enough geeks.

 

[Marsu42]

With computers, you have the enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who care which chipset they use let alone processor manufacturer. With cameras, you have enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who are interested in architecture and low-level performance.

Sure, I used to build my own computers, choosing which mainboard with what chipset and whatnot to assemble - but nowadays it's all so generic that it's hardly worth it and imho only a few geeks are left with some brand attachment.

With dlsr, brand attachment isn't just based on the logo on the chipset, but on the whole system's usability (firmware, menus, lenses, flashes, software, postprocessing files, service). That's why I guess that the computer market is much more volatile than camera systems.

 

[Tugela]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

Except that in this case the big company is Sony. Perhaps it is the other way around, and the sleeping giant that was awoken is Sony, not Canon. Canon are more like AMD and will probably go the same way.

 

[Tugela]

With computers, you have the enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who care which chipset they use let alone processor manufacturer. With cameras, you have enthusiasts/geeks (like me) who are interested in architecture and low-level performance.

Sure, I used to build my own computers, choosing which mainboard with what chipset and whatnot to assemble - but nowadays it's all so generic that it's hardly worth it and imho only a few geeks are left with some brand attachment.

With dlsr, brand attachment isn't just based on the logo on the chipset, but on the whole system's usability (firmware, menus, lenses, flashes, software, postprocessing files, service). That's why I guess that the computer market is much more volatile than camera systems.

Based on the number of naked motherboards sold, millions of people disagree with you.

 

[Eldar]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

Except that in this case the big company is Sony. Perhaps it is the other way around, and the sleeping giant that was awoken is Sony, not Canon. Canon are more like AMD and will probably go the same way.

I believe it is a bit far fetched to claim Sony is the sleeping giant of the camera world, especially DSLR. What did Sony sell year by year the last 20 years, compared to Canon? What is Sony´s lens line up worth next to Canon´s? Sony is big, but in this business they are still an embryo that may become something, whereas Canon has been on top for as long as I can remember.

I am looking forward to Friday like a child for Christmas

 

[Tugela]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

They won't suck the air out of anything if they keep putting out products based on 3-4 year old technology. If they want to "suck all the air out of CP+" they are going to have to come up with next generation tech that is a step ahead of the competition, and that is very improbable.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

Except that in this case the big company is Sony. Perhaps it is the other way around, and the sleeping giant that was awoken is Sony, not Canon. Canon are more like AMD and will probably go the same way.

Good point. Although Canon does still have an advantage of not having to outsource any of their lens development to 3rd parties. Sony is obviously more able to compete on the sensor front in terms of tech and cost. Which may explain the rapid release of bodies that are getting really really damn cheap. $2,000 or less for a 36MP full frame camera is pretty damn impressive right now.

If I were Sony, I would be trying to snipe away Canon's lens engineers with big wads of cash. Boosting their own dev and taking away from Canon. It's probably already happening.

 

[Tugela]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

Except that in this case the big company is Sony. Perhaps it is the other way around, and the sleeping giant that was awoken is Sony, not Canon. Canon are more like AMD and will probably go the same way.

I believe it is a bit far fetched to claim Sony is the sleeping giant of the camera world, especially DSLR. What did Sony sell year by year the last 20 years, compared to Canon? What is Sony´s lens line up worth next to Canon´s? Sony is big, but in this business they are still an embryo that may turn into something, whereas Canon has been on top for as long as I can remember.

I am looking forward to Friday like a child for Christmas

Sony can draw on the insight, expertise and experience of the rest of their divisions however. Not to mention that they have a lot more resources available. If they make a serious effort in camera tech there is no way Canon are going to be able to keep up.

 

[Loswr]

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing.

Nice rumor, but the facts don't support 'rabid market share grabbing' by Sony. They're still fighting for scraps, in market share terms.

 

[jrista]

Canon has planned 2015 to be a wall-to-wall new product marketing nuclear bomb. It's aggressive and I love it.

Ok...I'd love to see it....maybe this is Canon just being uber aggressive and trying to suck all the air out of CP+. But, it is certainly a break from recent history.

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing. Canon might be a big, slow company, but when they feel truly threatened, they put the hammer down.

Shades of when AMD finally woke the guys at Intel up, and Intel acted decisively. If we're at a point where the established companies start feeling threatened, that's probably good thing.

Except that in this case the big company is Sony. Perhaps it is the other way around, and the sleeping giant that was awoken is Sony, not Canon. Canon are more like AMD and will probably go the same way.

I believe it is a bit far fetched to claim Sony is the sleeping giant of the camera world, especially DSLR. What did Sony sell year by year the last 20 years, compared to Canon? What is Sony´s lens line up worth next to Canon´s? Sony is big, but in this business they are still an embryo that may turn into something, whereas Canon has been on top for as long as I can remember.

I am looking forward to Friday like a child for Christmas

I don't know about sleeping giant...maybe sleeping dwarf at the moment. But I see Samsung as the next major force. They have an extremely compelling product in the NX1. The programmable hardware with the whole "camera hardware apps" concept, the SDK they are developing (which sounds like it will rival Canon's for richness, if not surpass it), and the lenses they are starting to develop (like the 300mm f/2.8, which sounds like it will at least match Canon's for features...not sure about optical quality yet), etc. put Samsung in a position where they could, if they execute well, start to give Canon a run for the money. I think Samsung might actually bring the mirrorless market to life...as they actually seem to be doing it right. A camera that rivals the 7D II on key features, with solid DSLR-like ergonomics...just without the mirrorbox.


I'm not calling them a giant...but I do believe they could become one in five to ten years. They certainly became the giant in the smartphone industry, and in less time than that.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

It's rumored that Sony is going to be making a huge power play soon, so Canon might finally be scared of their rabid market share grabbing.

Nice rumor, but the facts don't support 'rabid market share grabbing' by Sony. They're still fighting for scraps, in market share terms.

Correct, I meant market grabbing, ATTEMPT. My bad in choice of words.