Canon’s accessory shoe coming to the EOS R5c and could be an upgrade option for the EOS R5

[Mt Spokane Photography]

It's probably an entire hot shoe assembly that connects to some internal usb connector with a little firmware magic to make it work.

You can see the tear down on the lens Rentals website. Then you could make a comment based on what's in the camera. To do a shoe upgrade, its almost certain that the entire top assembly would be replaced. That's probably going to run $300 or $400. Then, they will send the old top assembly to a subcontractor where it will be refurbished for use as a replacement part. You don't get new parts when your camera is repaired unless refurbished ones are not available.

I think the discussion at Canon probably involves the amount to charge to change out the top assembly. It all is based on the cost of labor, the parts are not that expensive since the old one will be reused. They might be willing to do it for $200, after all, the moon is made of green cheese, right?

Taking Apart the Canon EOS R5 Mirrorless Camera

Let's get one thing out of the way in the first sentence. If you're here to understand the mysteries of thermal flow in the Canon R5 I can tell you everything I know without doing a teardown: It's small, it's weather-sealed, and photo-body cameras have limited ability to get heat out of the...

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[Quackator]

This likely means no XLR input on the R5c. Probably no nd filter either. Leaving the 6kpro with no competition. The C70 is too big for run and gun.

Good thing my C70 doesn't know that.
I have both, and the BMPCC 6k Pro will certainly never be my first choice for a wedding.

 

[reef58]

Indeed, Canon have nothing to lose, and I've no argument with Canon providing the service.

It would sure be interesting to know how many R5 owners shoot video on a level serious enough that they would be willing to pay for the upgrade.

Don't know if I am "serious" but I enjoy video and would pay for the upgrade. I have an xlr-3.5 already, but I suspect there may be more things coming.

 

[rontele7]

People are forgetting about the chip shortage + Covid delays.

The R5 was 6+ months wait to get one last year. And until a couple days ago, Sony’s FX3 was on an 8+ month delay.

So the hot shoe replacement makes a lot of sense if they’re thinking the R3 and R5c might not be available until Q4 2022/Q1 2023.

 

[addola]

It's good that Canon will introduce the new "Accessory Shoe" to newer cameras. I really hope to see it make its way to the successors of the EOS R, R6 and R5. I doubt that they can simply retrofit the existing R5 with it, though, as it seems that the camera's internals would need to be redesign to work with it.

 

[rbr]

Personally I would like some sort of angle finder. Since the old Angle finder C can't be attached to the eyepiece of the R5 like every other Canon EOS camera, an new electronic finder that could be attached to a new shoe could work (like the new Sigma camera). A lot of people don't seem to mind the fact that you can't attach an Angle Finder C to the R5, but I sure do. I don't want to have to wear reading glasses to see the rear screen. I would much prefer a finder with a built in diopter adjustment. That's what I'd like from a new shoe for the R5.

 

[vignes]

I'm predominately a stills shooter. I'm not that keen on this 'Multi-interface' hot shoe. When Sony intro 'Multi-interface' hot shoe with multi pins, people criticised it as a weak link to fail especially when used on wet conditions, even though it has a cover. Now when Canon intro it, it seems it's OK. Canon's standard hot shoe doesn't require any cover and I have happily used the camera in the wet condition. I see the R3 has a cover on the hot shoe, imagine loosing the cover and you have to rush out to use the camera in the wet?

But I appreciate the flexibility of it i.e. digital mic usage etc.

 

[wanderer23]

Really happy to hear this. I've long been jealous of Sony's small shotgun mic not needing to be charged or use cables. Home canon or a thirdparty makes a similar one.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I'm predominately a stills shooter. I'm not that keen on this 'Multi-interface' hot shoe. When Sony intro 'Multi-interface' hot shoe with multi pins, people criticised it as a weak link to fail especially when used on wet conditions, even though it has a cover. Now when Canon intro it, it seems it's OK. Canon's standard hot shoe doesn't require any cover and I have happily used the camera in the wet condition. I see the R3 has a cover on the hot shoe, imagine loosing the cover and you have to rush out to use the camera in the wet?

But I appreciate the flexibility of it i.e. digital mic usage etc.

Since Canon is introducing it in the XF605 and R3 I would imagine that it is plenty rugged

 

[DJL329]

If they can do that, why not provide an upgraded heatsink replacement service?

 

[dirtyvu]

I think giving the R5 a paid upgrade to the accessory shoe, if priced reasonable, is pretty awesome. The R5 keeps getting better. When I do make the switch, it'll be a tough choice between the R5 (if this upgrade is possible) and the R3. I do enough video that finding an easier upgrade path will push me over.

I LOVE THE VIDEO FROM THE R5! It's so gorgeous and if they do give it for free, I'd be so happy (though I've been perfectly happy with using the mic input as the highest quality mic I have is the Rode VideoMic NTG).

 

[unfocused]

I'm skeptical of the idea that Canon would offer a retrofit for the R5. On the other hand, I expect the R5 to serve as the chassis for both the R5c and the R5s, so if they can fit the electronics into the body for the R5c, and if they plan to offer the new shoe on the R5s as well, then at least in theory they should be able to fit the electronics into the R5. How much they would charge is a whole other question. Regardless, it's all moot to me, as I am not a video person.

 

[Dragon]

An upgrade to to the R5 hot shoe seems unlikely, but the latest firmware does support the 18-80 and 70-200 compact servo lenses, which means Canon understands that the APS-c video from the R5 is top notch (even if the professional reviewers can't be bothered to test it). I think this suggests that we may see full firmware support for EF-EOS R .71 adapter (i.e. speed booster) similar the recent release for the C70. For those not aware, the APS-c video from the R5 is down-sampled (even at 60 fps) and is very good and AFAIK, there are no overheating problems in that mode. All that adds up to the R5 being a very serious video capture device. The .71 adapter makes many FF lenses into pretty serious low light beasts. For example, an EF 70-200 f/2.8 becomes a 50-142 f/2 APS-c lens. Not bad for evening wedding videos.

 

[privatebydesign]

I'm skeptical of the idea that Canon would offer a retrofit for the R5. On the other hand, I expect the R5 to serve as the chassis for both the R5c and the R5s, so if they can fit the electronics into the body for the R5c, and if they plan to offer the new shoe on the R5s as well, then at least in theory they should be able to fit the electronics into the R5. How much they would charge is a whole other question. Regardless, it's all moot to me, as I am not a video person

Even if they use some R5 components in an R5C the later will have active cooling so will have a substantially different body.

 

[unfocused]

Even if they use some R5 components in an R5C the later will have active cooling so will have a substantially different body.

Good point. That probably means it won't be called the R5c if the body is substantially different.

 

[landon]

The future upgrade option for the R5 is for people who bought the R5 for video, that will regret not waiting for the video centric R5c release next year.

 

[padam]

The future upgrade option for the R5 is for people who bought the R5 for video, that will regret not waiting for the video centric R5c release next year.

Not really, the R5 C will be at least 2000$ more expensive, they are not competing with each other.

 

[vignes]

Since Canon is introducing it in the XF605 and R3 I would imagine that it is plenty rugged

Still needs a cover... that says a lot. Canon wouldn't put a cover on hot shoes unless it's necessary.

 

[privatebydesign]

Still needs a cover... that says a lot. Canon wouldn't put a cover on hot shoes unless it's necessary.

The M5 came with a hotshoe cover but didn’t require it. Which rather disproves your thinking.

 

[cnigul]

Not really, the R5 C will be at least 2000$ more expensive, they are not competing with each other.

I highly doubt that it'll be $5900. C70 has a $5500 price tag already. Unless you have some sort of a mole in Canon's operations