Canon’s Retro Camera is Coming as the EOS R8 Mark II

A retro camera might be my only chance to get a Canon EOS R camera with a tilting screen. It would make my day if there is a solid leak regarding that. I am unreasonably mad at the fully articulating screens. The screen on a 5D original without live view is even less infuriating.
 
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Will that “L” mean a $1200+ price tag? I assume the “R6” moniker will come with a premium as well; I was hoping for a more S9/R8 class body price, hopefully it’s not much more than the ZR at least.
Hard to see a 20-50/4 L PZ coming in much if any less expensive than the 14-35/4 L which currently lists at $1499. Same 2.5x zoom range, and while 20 on the wide end is easier to achieve than 14, you trade that for PZ. So, I'd guess $1299 at a minimum, $1499 certainly possible. In the R8V iteration of the rumor I'd been assuming that it would be an STM level of quality putting it in the 899/999 range. I guess not a huge delta in the overall scale of things, but add in the R6 premium and you're probably looking at a $3k+ kit price rather than $2k- for an R8/STM level kit.
 
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The 20-50mm PZ will be pretty awesome if the power zoom function does not require an external motor (like it does on the 24-105mm f2.8 Z. That's probably the difference between the PZ and Z naming.

But I would assume the lens would have to have an internal zoom, which is also great. While I would have loved an f2.8, if it has internal zoom with a (GREAT) range of 20-50mm, with IS, is around 600-grams, and has the PZ functionality built into the lens (and doesn't need the bulky external motor), then it's a huge win and instant buy for me.
 
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The 20-50mm PZ will be pretty awesome if the power zoom function does not require an external motor (like it does on the 24-105mm f2.8 Z. That's probably the difference between the PZ and Z naming.

But I would assume the lens would have to have an internal zoom, which is also great. While I would have loved an f2.8, if it has internal zoom with a (GREAT) range of 20-50mm, with IS, is around 600-grams, and has the PZ functionality built into the lens (and doesn't need the bulky external motor), then it's a huge win and instant buy for me.

It'll be the same as the RF-S 14-30 PZ.
 
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so are we now thinking the R7ii isn't in production at all? I am actively in the market, been 15 years since my last camera purchase but my main focus is on my children with youth sports. If an R7ii isn't coming, I don't love the idea of buying an R7 that is 3+ years old now. Should I bump up to the R6III? or do you still think the R7ii is this summer?
 
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